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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 01:08 PM
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Reagan Diaries: George W: "Find the Kid a Job": IS THIS REAL??
Reagan Diaries: George W: "Find the Kid a Job": IS THIS REAL??
by brooklynmatt
Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 10:51:55 AM PDT
Ok, I just was sent this:

Reagan Diaries: George W: "Find the Kid a Job"...

Direct quote from the just published REAGAN DIARIES.

The entry is dated May 17, 1986.

'A moment I've been dreading. George brought his ne're-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida. The one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I'll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they'll hire him as a contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work.'

http://www.globalresearch.ca/...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/20/134850/986
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 01:13 PM
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1. Sadly a fake I am pretty sure
I think the New Republic made some kind of parody for this.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 01:17 PM
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2. I'd bet it's fake, too...
I can't imagine Reagan calling Michael Kinsley and asking a for a favor...
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 01:57 PM
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12. The idiot HAD jobs...lousy, stupid jobs, he didn't show up for, but jobs nonetheless
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 02:18 PM
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19. And he effed up every single one of them, INCLUDING his present job!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 02:52 PM
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20. Yep, you got that right!!! nt
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 01:21 PM
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3. Doesn't sound real, but he did have some choice words
in his diary about his own adopted son, Michael:

Mon., Nov. 19-25, 1984
One other sour note on Thanksgiving. Had to do with Mike. He blew up at something on TV news based on an interview Nancy had given. He called me and wen I tried to straighten him out he screamed at me about having been adopted and hung up on me.

Mon., Nov. 26, 1984
To top the day off I called Mike R. We talked for half an hour and I'm more than ever convinced that he has a real emotional problem that is making him paranoid.

Thurs., Nov. 29, 1984
Another call from Mike. He is a realy disturbed young man. I've contacted his minister and believe maybe we can get through to Mike…
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 01:22 PM
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4. There is no entry dated May 17, 1986 in my copy.
Sounds a little fishy.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 01:24 PM
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5. ha, that would be hilarious to forward in chain emails to repig spammers
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 01:37 PM
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6. .
Edited on Mon Aug-20-07 01:37 PM by Lone_Star_Dem
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 01:38 PM
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7. Sounds like bullshit.
Too intelligent and thoughtful for Reagan, for one thing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 01:56 PM
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11. True Bullshit!
:rofl:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 02:17 PM
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18. Real honest to gods bull shit!
;)
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 06:41 PM
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26. Too intelligent and thoughtful for Reagan
Exactly what I thought. That just doesn't sound like Reagan. While some people speak, write, and write to themselves in a diary in three very different ways, this just doesn't seem like St. Ronnie the Stupid.
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 01:43 PM
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8. For real. This is from the diaries, before they were edited by Douglas Brinkley.
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johan helge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 01:55 PM
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10. Where have you read the unedited diaries? (nt)
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 02:07 PM
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14. I didn't have to read it. Mommy told me.
He often called her "Mommy"; she called him "Ronnie."
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 04:50 PM
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24.  I found his diary underneath a tree.
Diary

I found her diary underneath a tree.
And started reading about me
The words she’s written took me by surpise
You’d never read them in her eyes.
They said that she had found the love she waited for.
Wouldn’t you know it, she wouldn’t show it.

When she confronted with the writing there,
Simply pretended not to care.
I passed it off as just in keeping with
Her total disconcerting air
And though she tried to hide
The love that she denied,
Wouldn’t you know it, she wouldn’t show it.

And as I go through my life, I will give to her my wife
All the sweet things that I can find.

I found her diary underneath a tree.
And started reading about me.
The words began stick and tears to flow.
Her meaning now was clear to see.
The love she’d waited for was someone else not me
Wouldn’t you know it, she wouldn’t show it.

And as I go through my life, I will wish for her his wife
All the sweet things that she can find
All the sweet things they can find


-----------------------------------------
Just joking.



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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 01:50 PM
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9. Political Wire has it on their site
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 02:01 PM
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13. The page has been removed.
'Wonder what that means.
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 02:09 PM
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16. .Maybe a fake....
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 02:09 PM
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15. The quote seems to come from an Amazon reviewer
http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A1TZH0MFIJJ25W/ref=cm_cr_auth/104-5393135-1417550

I found the link from Political Wire.

The reviewer's name is Silouan Thompson.

Can anyone confirm the quote from the book? I'd think we'd have heard it by now, since the book has been in print since May.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 02:12 PM
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17. Sounds real to me - and you can't convince me otherwise
What the hell, we belive so very may lies why not this one?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 04:08 PM
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21. This does not ring true at all.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 04:32 PM
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22. Sounds fake, but THIS is real
David Rubenstein, founder and managing director of the Carlyle group (boldface is mine)


...when we were putting the board together, somebody came to me and said, look there is a guy who would like to be on the board. He's kind of down on his luck a bit. Needs a job. Needs a board position. Needs some board positions. Could you put him on the board? Pay him a salary and he'll be a good board member and be a loyal vote for the management and so forth.

I said well we're not usually in that business. But okay, let me meet the guy. I met the guy. I said I don't think he adds that much value. We'll put him on the board because - you know - we'll do a favor for this guy; he's done a favor for us. We put him on the board and spent three years. Came to all the meetings. Told a lot of jokes. Not that many clean ones. And after a while I kind of said to him, after about three years - you know, I'm not sure this is really for you. Maybe you should do something else. Because I don't think you're adding that much value to the board. You don't know that much about the company.

He said, well I think I'm getting out of this business anyway. And I don't really like it that much. So I'm probably going to resign from the board.

And I said, thanks - didn't think I'd ever see him again. His name is George W. Bush. He became President of the United States. So you know if you said to me, name 25 million people who would maybe be President of the United States, he wouldn't have been in that category. So you never know. Anyway, I haven't been invited to the White House for any things.

Democracy Now
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 04:35 PM
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23. why do people do this?
what's the point of making shit up like this?
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 07:10 PM
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27. Rove must've heard of this and started the 'Reagan = 666' rumor
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 04:53 PM
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25. How hard can this be to debunk?
Doesn't someone out there in webland have the book? Geez Louise. :eyes:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:47 PM
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28. Raygun could write?
:D


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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:55 PM
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29. GW wishes Reagan had noticed him!
not to mention a brief mention. :rofl:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 09:20 PM
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30. Even the Carlyle Group fired Shrub!!1
*******QUOTE*******

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3994.htm

.... In a column posted yesterday on Salon.com, Joe Conason writes: "Preferring to avoid public scrutiny for obvious reasons, executives at the Carlyle Group usually say nothing about their firm's connections with the Bush dynasty. But last April 23, Carlyle managing director David Rubenstein spoke quite frankly about the comfy sinecure he provided to George W. Bush more than a decade ago -- and how useless Bush turned out to be. Whether he knew it or not, Rubenstein's remarks to the Los Angeles County Employees Retirement Association were recorded."

Rubenstein said, "We put (Bush) on the board and (he) spent three years. Came to all the meetings. Told a lot of jokes. Not that many clean ones. And after a while I kind of said to him, after about three years - you know, I'm not sure this is really for you. Maybe you should do something else. Because I don't think you're adding that much value to the board. You don't know that much about the company.

Rubenstein continued: "He said, 'Well, I think I'm getting out of this business anyway. And I don't really like it that much. So I'm probably going to resign from the board.' And I said, thanks - didn't think I'd ever see him again. His name is George W. Bush. He became President of the United States. So you know if you said to me, name 25 million people who would maybe be President of the United States, he wouldn't have been in that category. So you never know. Anyway, I haven't been invited to the White House for any things." ....

********UNQUOTE*******
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 02:44 PM
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32. Democracy Now did a program on this ... VIDEO
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 02:35 PM
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31. he still hangs around the WH looking shiftless
it must be true (I hope!)
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 03:02 PM
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33. From My Lunch With Reagan
Edited on Thu Aug-23-07 03:06 PM by JTFrog
My Lunch With Reagan
by Michael Kinsley
Post date 06.29.07 | Issue date 07.02.07

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20070702&s=kinsley070207

*edit - doesn't always seem to load the whole article at the above link. here is the cached link: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:MQUjq9BiwgMJ:www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml%3Fi%3D20070702%26s%3Dkinsley070207+my+lunch+with+reagan&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us
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