I give up trying to reason with freepers...it is pointless.

[driver8]

On my veterans' board today, I posted an article about the Henry Waxman hearings and the missing billions of dollars. Here are some of the comments I received (I am paraphrasing):

-- The money was probably counterfeit and was being used to de-stabilize their economy.

-- The money is not lost, it is in "circulation."

-- The money has been invested; the money is making more money.

-- There is no Bank of America in Iraq. This money was used to pay contractors and workers so
that we could start to re-build the country.

-- I was then told that this was baseless crap from the left wing liberal media and that I posted the article because of my strong hatred of Bush. Also, Henry Waxman is part of the "Bush hating crowd" and has "jumped on the Al Gore 'global warming bandwagon'".

AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck 'em.

[KingFlorez]

1. Why bother?

They don't think realistically

[driver8]

6. You are right -- they don't think realistically. I was also told that

the reason we are having to deal with Iran right now is because Clinton didn't do his job.

Unbelievable.

[bahrbearian]

2. Keep on hammering .

:spank: :spank: :spank:

[movonne]

3. Don't you think that these right wing crazies have nowhere to go...

You know they don't read the same things we do...

[magellan]

4. Point out that it's THEIR money

...and then direct them to the recent report of the police academy in Baghdad where millions of THEIR money was sunk into shoddy work and an uninhabitable facility.

Then remind them that $12bn of THEIR money is unaccounted for -- meaning all their guesses at what's happened to it is about the only comfort they'll get because no one can prove a thing.

[driver8]

5. Believe me, I mentioned several times that it was their money.

That fact didn't seem to phase them at all.

[magellan]

13. Yet if it goes to other Americans as some form of aid they throw a hissy fit

I hate freepers. They're happy to be robbed blind by the government, just don't raise taxes or give money to "welfare moms".

Blow them off. Their small minds aren't worth the trouble.

[tblue]

14. Then they are hopeless idiots who deserve to be ripped off this way since their minds are so

closed or brainwashed. They would scream bloody murder if a POOR person got an extra Meals on Wheels delivery. But when BILLIONS of dollars are thrown away because of Repug malfeasance, they couldn't care less. I have no sympathy for these people. They put party before absolutely everything, so to hell with them. They're not part of the solution because they are the problem! They are what's wrong with America. Stop wasting your time with losers.

[AlCzervik]

7. i love ya for trying.

[matcom]

8. I give up trying to reason with Duers...it is pointless

nothing against your original post. nothing against you either. really.

i simply just found out that if I didn't worship ANS, i'm anti-gay

sorry.

[driver8]

12. ANS??

I must be anti-gay also, since I don't have a freakin'clue what ANS is?

Wait -- is it Anna Nichole Smith? What does that have to do with being anti/pro gay?

[ismnotwasm]

9. I hear ya

There is a gentleman at work who is just as weird. He said, and I quote "If you line up 50 muslims, I wouldn't hesitate to shoot them" We were in a discussion not an argument-- too long to explain here. I use him to practice civil discussions with people I have no opinions in common with, to see if there is a common ground.

Nope, not this time. He's on permanent Asshole weirdo freeper status.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

10. Same mind set as fundie xtians.

I made the mistake of trying to have a discussion of our beliefs.

I ended up running out of the house for dear life, while the teenaged kids were chasing me and attempting to hit me as I was trying to get in my car and lock the door to get the hell out of their house.

Their daddy had been making fun of me and the momma had been screaming about letting heathens in their house(ironically not addressed at me).

Now they hate my guts, but I couldn't handle their xtian love (sarcasm).

[agates]

11. It is impossible

It is impossible use reason to convince someone to change an opinion they've formed based on fantasy.

[tblue]

15. Or lunacy.

[William Bloode]

16. You'll never crack the hardcore ones.

Many in fact know the truth, and are dandy with it. They just use weak rationals like those to make some attempt at an excuse. it's not being blind, just pretending to be.

[mvd]

17. Many will say white is black, like their hero Bush

You just have to leave the conversation when that happens.

[PSPS]

18. You have to write them off intellectually

I used to work across the street from the city's largest department store downtown (now defunct.) Every day, there was this nutty guy who would stand on the corner yelling at people all day. He should have been in an institution, but he was there on the corner instead. He'd arrive around 8 AM and leave around 4 PM. It was like it was his job.

Occasionally, someone would walk by and try to "talk" or "reason" with him. Of course, it was a futile exercise and most people would just walk by, giving him a wide berth. Only when he got physically violent would the cops haul him off. But he'd be back after a few days.

The people you are encountering are essentially the same type as that guy on the street corner. They are deranged and should be institutionalized for their own good. Instead, the likes of Rove has learned how to reach them and get them into the voting booth.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

19. Did they actually spell that well

and use correct sentence structure? I figure you cleaned up the responses so we could read them.

Really, I don't think there is a point with them. They are basically sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting the Rush talking points over and over again.

[sandnsea]

20. Four Billion Dollars

Cash. On Pallets.

If they don't care about this, then I don't want to hear a word about Katrina aid.

[TN al]

21. I know what you're talking about

I deal with the same kind of idiocy on my local newspapers board. One freeper claims that America is in the rotten shape it is in because Democrats had a monopoly on power from the '40s to 1994. When I pointed out all of the repub prez's between those years and the years that the repubs controlled the senate and the house he thanked me for proving his point and now claims the monopoly ran from 1933 until 1994.

Another freeper type is constantly denying global warming, well there's lots of those actually, but he posted a witness from 15 years ago before a senate committee as proof that it wasn't happening. The witness was an MIT professor so I'm sure he felt secure in his point. Well I went to his link and got this professors name. It is Richard Lindzen, and I googled him. Come to find that Lindzen is in the pocket of OPEC and Exxon and earns $2500 a day consulting with oil companies. Before this he was a consultant with the tobacco companies denying the harmful effects of tobacco. I told this guy what his source was up to and he dismissed it as irrelevant.

Another global warming denier is always throwing out alternative theories to global warming but refuses to document any of them. I told him without documentation I have to assume it is only out of his head so it carries no weight. He said since I didn't research his alternative theories I had no leg to stand on. So one day I googled one of his theories, plate tectonics, and lo and behold it was put forth as a possible cause of global warming by one Richard Lindzen.

Another Freeper is arguing against universal health care because it isn't in the constitution. He asked where in the constitution does it say we can have universal health care. Another poster and I both responded with Article 1 section 8 and the sixteenth amendment. He dismissed that because that article and amendment do not specifically refer to health care.

These guys simply are incapable of rational thought or linear reasoning. I don't think that should be surprising to any of us. They have been demonstrating those deficiencies for some time now. Still it is frustrating.

[edbermac]

22. Man, you have a better chance getting pregnant than reasoning with freepers.

:7

[screembloodymurder]

23. Inbreeding is hard on the gene pool.

Moosehead is a beer in the DU, it's a misdemeanor with the Freepers.