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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-19-07 05:04 AM
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Poll question: Who will the Pukes throw at us in 08?
Edited on Sun Aug-19-07 05:10 AM by Old Crusoe
Guess their ticket.

Electability is a major obstacle for virtually all their announced candidates, as well as their unannounced ones. Jeb Bush's older brother has forestalled a presidential run in 2008. Gingrich is a velvet-tongued scoundrel. Thompson is lazy and uninventive. McCain's cooked. Romney is unstable. Brownback acts stable but is even worse than Romney. Huckabee's a spiteful hatchetman. Giuliani is a street thug.

Are they going to just throw this one away and nominate Ron Paul or someone else in a concession to the Democrats, or will they mud-throw and claw as usual to smear our ticket? Either way, they have to nominate one ticket or another.

Pick the Pukes.

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Eagle_Eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-19-07 05:49 AM
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1. It look likely a Giuliani / Thompson ticket will be the republican losers this time around
It will be entertaining to see that one-trick-pony Giuliani get his clock cleaned in the debates.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 07:43 PM
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2. Love your description of Rudy as a one-trick pony. He's that, exactly.
Sometimes it's hard to find that pony amid all the evidence of a pony, in Giuliani's case.
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Eagle_Eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 05:12 AM
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30. If it weren't for the tragedy of September 11, 2001, who would have heard about Giuliani?
Only the bankrupt republicans could run a presidential campaign on the back of a mayor who sent firefighters into a burning building.
When the Democrats put the focus on current issues, like ending the war and putting the country back on a sound fiscal base, we will beat these grandstanding conservatives.
The war must end. We have to stop the hemorrhage of tax dollars to the rich defense contractors.
The country must have a clear tax policy where the rich pay their share of the government expenses.
The issue should not be what the bush administration has done to this country, but rather what we need to do to return this country to correct path the Clinton administration had us on eight years ago.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:11 PM
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3. There will be a Bush on the ticket.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:14 PM
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5. Then for the love of God could it please be Sam Bush, the magnificent bluegrass
musician?

I'd vote for that Bush over the ones I think you mean!
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:12 PM
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4. Senator Clinton.
Oh, you mean as their nominee.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:19 PM
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6. How dare you.
Alerted.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:24 PM
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9. Alerted for what?
We can blast Democratic candidates until they're the nominee.

Besides, it was funny. :)
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:27 PM
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12. I di'n't really alerted.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:55 PM
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19. Aw, cute kids. - n/t
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:43 PM
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14. Heh, heh. - n/t
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:32 PM
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13. wish I could K&R your reply. nt
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:43 PM
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15. Sorry, I couldn't resist. - n/t
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 04:38 AM
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28. I've been wondering if the Repukes pushing her has any effect
at all. It does get her name out there and for those who aren't following - they hear her name more often. Maybe they are doing it to rile up the other side since they know people hate her?
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 03:48 PM
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31. Just like telling a kid that they're stupid a million times can give them a complex...
...repeating the message that Senator Clinton is our nominee makes it more real for people who pay attention to the corporate media. It's a form of mind control advertising employs to get us to buy things we don't want or need.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:20 PM
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7. Thompson and Jeb Bush. n/t
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:23 PM
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8. Not sure about Huckabee for VP, but it's nice to see this board
finally waking up to the fact that Thompson, should he run, will be the Republican nominee.

My husband counted four "Fred 08" stickers on the road today. :puke: I've seen a couple of Ron Paul ones, but no Mittens or Ghouliani... and I'm in the South - a good bellweather for who the Republicans will nominate.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:27 PM
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11. Mitt & Jeb
Mitt Romney linked to Bush family; Jeb Bush encouraged to run for president

From our "will we never learn/will the nightmare never end" department comes this:
Jeb Bush, who hasn't publicly picked a favorite in the Republican presidential race, privately is talking up the candidacy of Mitt Romney and steering some of his closest advisers to the campaign.

The former Florida governor has said repeatedly he won't be a candidate in 2008 despite encouragement from his father, the former president, and his brother, the current one. But Jeb Bush's support, even tacit, would be critical in the state that decided the 2000 presidential election.

is one of several former Bush confidantes in the Romney camp. Others include his hand-picked, former state party chairman Al Cardenas, and Sally Bradshaw, 's former campaign manager and chief of staff...

http://www.lonewacko.com/blog/archives/006329.html
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:44 PM
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16. I think the Pukes are in big trouble. Agree that Thompson has some
support, but I don't see crossover support in significant numbers for him, nor any "Reagan Democrat" appeal in an election cycle following 8 years of horrendous foreign and domestic policy.

I think the chief beneficiaries of the failed Bush policies here and abroad will be the blue team.

A Democratic ticket topper could tap Phil Bredeson, for example, and in a year when the electorate is disposed toward Democrats, Thompson would have to dump cash into his own state.

He'll have trouble with some fundies, too. Some of the photos of Fred and his wife are not the sort that reassure the fundies. Who Fred marries is his business, but again, we're talkin' fundies here. They don't think quite the same as others, if they think at all.

Romney has the cash but is in reality a vampire. Can't you just see the elongated fangs jutting out of his creepy face? He's macabre.

And Giuliani's just as creepy, with the additional repellent aspect of being a thug. Romney straps dogs to the top of his automobile. Rudy marries women who used to torture animals.

Thompson may win strictly by default

This is a charming bunch, start to finish.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:24 PM
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10. It will be Romney/Gingrich
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:52 PM
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17. That could be plausible, but I'm wondering how Romney wins in
the southern primaries.

Deep-red southern GOP primary voters aren't hogwild about 1) people from Massachusetts or 2) Mormons.

How does he win their nomination?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:55 PM
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18. Fred Thompson / Mike Huckabee
:hi:


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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 09:03 PM
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20. Swamp Rat. Howdy. Good to see you tonight on DU.
There's our guy, Fred, looking unusualy vital. Normally he's deader than a doorknob and not nearly as flexible.

Great lurid color like that gives Fred a much healthier glow than he enjoys otherwise.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 09:18 PM
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23. Just put on the special sunglasses .... then you can see THEM.


Good to see you too. :hi:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 09:25 PM
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24. LOL!!
They lurk among us! And especially on cable news!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 09:05 PM
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21. Other: Barney.
:hi:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 09:18 PM
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22. Are we talkin' Barney the neurotic White House pooch or Barney the
purple dinosaur?

___ _ _ _ _______ ___ __

Hiya, lonestarnot. Good to see ya.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 10:31 PM
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25. Either one.
:loveya: Ol Crusoe :hug:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 01:34 AM
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26. "Either one" !! LOL!
:toast: :thumbsup: :hi:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 04:01 AM
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27. McCain/Thompson. Mark my words.
I was one of the first to predict this ticket in early '05, right after I first joined this site.

I know McCain is perceived to be down and out right now, but he isn't. The neo-cons are trying like hell to find an alternative, but they won't. No one else is willing to pursue the ultra-conservative agenda WRT both the corporations and "family" values who has the appearance of credibility with the right that McCain has. Yes, I know that credibility is marginal at this point, but he still has more than anyone else, last I checked. He is also really the only person who is far enough away from any of the horrific scandals to be a viable candidate. Guiliani is a close second, except for that pesky "pro-choice" problem and the fact that he is ultimately perceived to be far too urbane and leftish for the South and MidWest--those little image issues will keep him from being selected as the nominee.

Thompson is dumb, has pathetic but passable congressional experience, wasn't in politics during the years of * and therefore can't be connected with any of the worst of this nightmare, and is allegedly friends with McCain. And Thomspon has that obnoxious "movie star" cred with the right (barf). He will be there to "pretty up" McCain's crass, insincere, manipulator's facade, and to give the ticket "glitz."

I still think this ticket is completely beatable, mind you, provided the Democratic Party doesn't do anything stupid (or crazy) with our nominee, but it's gonna be...oh, blech; it's gonna be yucky. McCain and Fred Fucking Dalton Thompson. The Republicans dumb enough to support that will be so damn excited to pull the lever for "McCain" and "that Law & Order guy."
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 04:49 AM
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29. Well, it could be. I don't have clinical all-powerful evidence that John McCain
is done for, but if I were a betting man in town on a Saturday night, I would bet against his ever seeing the inside of the White House.

I like your hearty anti-GOP vocab a lot! Thank you for that.

Thompson strikes me as a lazy giant. Maybe Fred is the giant in JACK AND THE BEANSTALK tale, only instead of waking up and flying into a rage, he just keeps snoring his worthless behind off somewhere in the clouds.

I keep looking for the energy in Fred Thompson -- the energy it's going to take to run for the presidency -- and I'm just not seeing it.

Romney, macabre creep that he is, at least has a physical energy and determination. He looks like he wants the job. I hope to hell he never gets it, but he's adequately supplied with the energy it's going to take to make the run.

The buzz on Huckabee after the Iowa straw poll isn't going to be nearly enough to make him viable. He's mediocre, and fiercely so. A very unexceptionaly man, IMO. I think Brownback could overtake him for January's caucuses if Brownback stays in that long.

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That Is Quite Enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 03:50 PM
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32. My bet's on Thompson or Romney, though I wouldn't be surprised...
...To see Gingrich enter the race and win the nomination, either.
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