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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 08:11 PM
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Obama wins the month as "the candidate of new approaches of persistent problems"
I am not sure that it resonates with voters this far out and I think he runs the risk of a "where's the beef" accusation. But it is very clear to me that what he is trying to do is position himself a the candidate of change and tag Clinton with the mantra of "I am running because I like the status quo" or woith the perception that she has no new ideas. and that she is running on brand identity rather than something new.

I think ultimately this is shrewd because it goads Clinton into taking positions rather than spoon-feeding pablum and hoping that is enough to ease the national hunger for something better. If she takes the bait....she becomes a target... if she ignores the challenge...she winds up looking aloof.

I think that is what is behind Obama comments and his decision to go full speed ahead with the views he has taken rather than walk it back a bit.

He does need to bring these home with actual "meat and bones" plans to avoid the no beef comments. but I like his political tact.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 08:37 PM
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1. glittering generalities are ever so helpful if you're trying to bait people I guess
not sure there is much of a future for hamburgers that are all bun and no patty.

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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 08:43 PM
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2. There's plenty of 'beef' at his website
and speeches he's given. Lots of information on bills he's passed in the Senate and in the Illinois Senate on the web. I don't really understand the 'where's the beef' stuff with Obama. He's been more specific than most, I think, or maybe I've just gone out of my way to find it.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-19-07 07:48 PM
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6. Well I guess that is my point...Most people will not go to his website.
So he has to find ways to deflect suvh an attack however ludicrous it may be.


Gary Hart had beeff...but it never mattered.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 08:47 PM
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3. What plans do you want
How are his plans less than anybody elses?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 08:47 PM
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4. Obama wins the month as "the candidate of persistent problems"
Obama? "Shrewd"? In the same sentence? :eyes:
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 09:33 PM
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5. That the best you have?
LOL....It not a response it is a retort and not a very wel;l reasoned one at that.


what next? "I know you are but what am I?" Or maybe another dose of "my cenadidate can beat up your candidate"?
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