Wolfowitz: Je Ne Regrette Rien

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from TPM Cafe:


Wolfowitz: Je Ne Regrette Rien
By M.J. Rosenberg | bio


Watching the news from Iraq this week and I couldn't help but wonder: is anyone going to pay for these crimes?

How is it that innocent people can die by the hundreds and thousands thanks to policy decisions made by Americans and nobody here is held accountable.

And, no, I do not think that losing Congress or the Presidency amounts to being held accountable for mass carnage.

The worst part is that these people do not even hold themselves accountable. LBJ and McNamara suffered pangs of, I don't know, guilt, shame, anger, regret. Something.

Not this gang.



Interviewed by The Australian while on a visit to Melbourne, Paul Wolfowitz makes clear that, for him, all the war's costs have been outweighed by the accomplishment.

"I think it is worth remembering January 2005. When Iraqis got the chance to vote for the first time, and the enemy threatened death to those who voted, and some said the indelible ink on the thumb may be mark of death, 9.5million Iraqis voted. That said something important."

Maybe it did. It just didn't change anything important, like the slaughter of innocent people.

Iraq is infinitely worse off today than it was before the war. We have, essentially, destroyed a country and, in the process lost 3700 young Americans.

But Wolfowitz, Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, Perle, Kristol, Feith and the Members of Congress who voted for the war just sail on.

Like Edith Piaf, they have no regrets. ......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2007/aug/17/wolfowitz_je_ne_regrette_rien

[spanone]

1. It's hard to fathom how these criminals sleep at night.

[acmavm]

2. Why does anyone interview that guy? Why the hell hasn't he been totally

discredited?

[marmar]

3. They keep interviewing Tom Delay as well......

Our MSM.... :eyes:

[oscarmitre]

9. The interviewer is a well known suck

for Murdoch. He's quite a capable journalist but he's so far up the arse of the Bush Administration that if one of them breaks wind the journo will bust an eardrum. No-one takes him seriously any longer.

[Solly Mack]

4. k/r

"And, no, I do not think that losing Congress or the Presidency amounts to being held accountable for mass carnage."

It's not. It won't "show them" or "send a message" - they've lost elections before...and then COME BACK to do even MORE damage.

"The worst part is that these people do not even hold themselves accountable."

I don't expect war criminals to hold themselves accountable...but it does show just how badly our system of government is corrupted - many who are supposed to act as checks and balances can't and won't because they are just as guilty and some even agree with the various crimes.(as evidenced by the MCA of 2006, the Patriot Act, and the FISA changes)

Sorry..but you don't vote FOR such things (torture, spying, erosion of rights) without being guilty of those very things.(torture, spying, erosion of rights)

I voted for torture but I didn't think Bush would torture?
I voted for the erosion of rights but I didn't think Bush would erode rights?
I voted for spying on Americans but I didn't think Bush would spy on Americans?

How thick is that?

I voted for such things because I was afraid I wouldn't be re-elected?

How cowardly is that?

People have to suffer because you're afraid of losing your office?

I was afraid for my family so I let other many other families suffer instead?

Sorry - but that's equally as cowardly.

You don't let other people die or suffer just to save yourself because you're too much of a coward to do what's right(such is not a case of self-defense)...especially when you have the power to stop those causing the suffering and the dying.


as to this question:


"...is anyone going to pay for these crimes?"

Yes - the American people will pay for these crimes...over and over and over again.
Oh - someone will pay all right - and it will be us. And not just us...Iraqis and others are paying dearly for the crimes of our government.



Is anyone going to be held accountable for these crimes?

NO. America doesn't have it in her to hold her own war criminals accountable. Though that so-called "freedom loving" and self-styled "human rights" supporting nation of my birth will hypocritically hold others accountable for the exact same crimes.

but I'm not bitter...
snort

[Mutineer]

5. Sociopaths don't have regrets

unless it's a regret about who they didn't screw over/kill/ruin the lives of, etc.

[marmar]

6. True that.....

:scared:

[UTUSN]

7. Tweety cited WOLFOWITZ approvingly, saying Shrub had provided his rationale for the Iraq Attack

at the last press conference, that this was democritization, that this is what WOLFOWITZ had said to Tweety over lunch in the run-up, and that this was a consistent and just-wonderfully unyielding position for Shrub to take. That's Tweety!!1

[Hydra]

8. Why would they regret it?

This is what they wanted all along. For them, this is Christmas every day- more money, more power, more control, more fear, and a greater shadow over the world.

*bitter laugh*

I was told I was crazy when I said Bush would be the next Hitler, after he was illegally elected and he destroyed the wall between church and state. When the fundies started burning people's houses for not having their religion, and Bush nodded approvingly, I knew none of us mattered to him, and would be disposed of when convenient to him.

As I said at the time, "Count the bodies when this is over, and tell me he wasn't as bad as Der Fuhrer"