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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 05:12 PM
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When did God tell the republicons...
that he was only there God,and why don't Dems ever speak to this when Tweety and the rest try to portray the religious right as people of God. They don't own God and it depends on which god they are serving. I never hear any discussion on this in depth. I hear these pundits describe the south as though everyone there believes in God and as though there is no one in the North who believes in God and these people go along with it as though it is true.

Most of these so called believers are them most hateful,lying, thieving, hypocritical people and the media lets this garbage go in every campaign, just as they do with saying all on those on the right are against abortion. I saw a piece of some documentary with Patricia Heaton and other Bushites last night and she was painting everyone in Hollywood as liberal. She bascially stated that bush is a godly man and the savior of the world and anyone who votes for the Democrats are the scum of the earth. These people think that if they say they believe in God then anyone who doesn't think like them or worship like them are crazy or devil worshipping.

They throw out liberal and paint everyone who votes for the Dems as though they all believe in the same thing and the stupid people who spout out this garbage really believe this shit, no wonder this country is going to hell there is so much stupidity...
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 05:14 PM
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1. They are Godless. If they truly believed, they would be scared shitless!
Just using religion as a weapon.
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 05:17 PM
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2. I've wondered many times if they know
something that we don't?
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 05:23 PM
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3. they know nothing. They are corrupted by their own egos and self importance.
and I think it grew out of miseable childhoods and disfunctional families!
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:16 PM
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4. They are being used by the rightwing...
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 12:51 PM
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13. An argument could be made that they are devil worshippers.
A lot of them worship Mammon and think of the Seven Deadly Sins as the Seven Commandments.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 07:56 PM
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5. God shouts "Knock this **** off, I never said that!"
and the Repukes keep putting Words in "His" mouth ...
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:08 PM
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6. Its the nature of a diverse group to not try to insist that they own God
Here in the Dem party we embrace all beliefs. Even nonbeliefs. To tout the idea that a particular religion supports our views over the republicans just grins most people the wrong way. We don't like it when the conservative religious tell us how to believe so we tend to turn our nose up at doing the same thing right back at them.
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 12:45 PM
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11. The problem with them is that ...
that they want to control everyone and they want everyone to be a christian when they know that this country is very diverse and that they will not change some people.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:15 PM
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7. A cross-post about this ungodly faith-based stuff as interpreted by Tommy Thompson and his gang
"'Neoconservatism' and how Wisconsinites worked alliances" (posted 8-16-2007)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=186x21683#21874
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 12:19 PM
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8. You are correct they are a gang...
or could be described as a cult...
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 12:27 PM
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9. I think it was a memo delivered on gold plates or something
It is funny, though, we hear so often of Republicons acting out the very behaviors they accuse the "Godless" left of doing. It's no secret they consistently use the simpler psychological defense mechanisms, mainly "projection."
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 12:34 PM
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10. Check out this article, it explains everything.
Voice Of God Revealed To Be Cheney On Intercom
December 7, 2005 | Issue 41•49


WASHINGTON, DC—Telephone logs recorded by the National Security Agency and obtained by Congress as part of an ongoing investigation suggest that the vice president may have used the Oval Office intercom system to address President Bush at crucial moments, giving categorical directives in a voice the president believed to be that of God.

While journalists and presidential historians had long noted Bush's deep faith and Cheney's powerful influence in the White House, few had drawn a direct correlation between the two until Tuesday, when transcripts of meetings that took place in March and April of 2002 became available.

In a transcript of an intercom exchange recorded in March 2002, a voice positively identified as the vice president's identifies himself as "the Lord thy God" and promotes the invasion of Iraq, as well as the use of torture in prisoner interrogations. <snip>


http://www.theonion.com/content/node/43189
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 12:56 PM
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14. I guess this explains why the callers on cspan..
call him a godly man and his handpicked audiences look at him as though they are worshipping god. If they really are reading the bible I do not see how that they are idol worshipping.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 12:48 PM
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12. "...why don't Dems ever speak to this..." (monopoly by the GOP on religion)
I dunno, but I'd really prefer that only one of the two major parties was identified with and dominated by religious whack jobs. The democrats seem to be doing a fine job avoiding the most disgusting displays of religiosity, while the GOP is mired in the same old US-is-a-christian-nation, anti-science, anti-gay, prayer-in-the-schools, Darwin sucks, flat earth society mentality -- or lack thereof.

If the dem candidates want to pray quietly behind closed doors and not wear that crap on their sleeves, great. The first one who starts bloviating about JeeeeeeZuzzzzz and the revealed word of god is likely to be the first one to run out of money drop out of the race.

Why else pander to the dull-normal, mother-mary's-profile-on-a-tortilla crowd when there are perfectly rational people out there who would actually value a relatively rational politician to vote for, particularly after eight unrelentingly awful years of irrational, destructive behavior from BushCo.


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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 12:58 PM
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15. I prefer that they don't tell me or anyone else who to worship...
that is the problem with them and the middle eastern countries, they want to spout thoughts and ways on others and want to kill them if they are not like them, these are some really insane people.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 01:28 PM
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18. Exactly. Freedom "from" religion is as important...,
... and maybe more important, than freedom to worship as one chooses. Fundies of all stripes have been and continue to be among the most dangerous, bloody and insoluble plagues ever visited upon the world. And when they hide their blood- and resource-acquisition-lust behind the Koran or the Torah or the bible or any of the other books of fairy tales that have the inexplicable power to galvanize billions, the venture becomes far more acceptable and has a higher probability of success than would a simple, unexcused resource grab.

Same for motivating small groups of dedicated freedom fighters (often called "terrorists") to strap on a vest stuffed with semtex and blow up a target, along with themselves, for a book and a flag. Testosterone and gawd are pretty lethal in combination.

If patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel, and religion is the opium of the people, then fundamentalism must be the twisted elixir that melds the two to create legions of religiously insane super patriots who will happily volunteer to kill strangers in foreign countries just because a politician pointed to a book and a piece of cloth and said, "now go git summa them little brown people for christ."


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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 01:04 PM
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16. My Theory
It's only my theory but most democratic candidates belong to mainstream/liberal denominations. As to why they don't put the Rapurists and fundamentalists in their place, I have no clue. I know I have been told that I am not Christian because I do not believe the same way they do. I have always been taught to question, to learn religious history and come to my own conclusions. The Rapturists scare the bejabbers out of me and I believe Bush is one. Christianity has been prostituted to fulfill their need for violence and money. I am sorry that I don't remember the other word for Rapturists but I do know they want as many Jewish people as possible to return to Israel and then the Second Coming will happen and they will be the only ones ascending to Heaven.
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 01:11 PM
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17. Sounds like you see it about the same as I...
Edited on Sat Aug-18-07 01:34 PM by coco77
I have cut down on my attendance at my local church because I over the past few years I have began seeing differing versions of the bushites attending as speakers and some of the bush talking points have crept into the sermons.
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