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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 11:44 AM
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Neo-conservative think tank editor: Bush should become "President-For-Life" (no joke)
Edited on Fri Aug-17-07 11:56 AM by whereismyparty
Family Security Matters, a neo-conservative think tank, published an article on their website written by contributing editor, Philip Atkinson, calling for Bush to be PRESIDENT FOR LIFE!!! in an article titled "Conquering the Drawbacks of Democracy".

Atkinson's article contains jaw-dropping segments such as:

"The wisest course would have been for President Bush to use his nuclear weapons to slaughter Iraqis until they complied with his demands, or until they were all dead. Then there would be little risk or expense and no American army would be left exposed. But if he did this, his cowardly electorate would have instantly ended his term of office, if not his freedom or his life."

AND

"If President Bush copied Julius Caesar by ordering his army to empty Iraq of Arabs and repopulate the country with Americans, he would achieve immediate results: popularity with his military; enrichment of America by converting an Arabian Iraq into an American Iraq (therefore turning it from a liability to an asset); and boost American prestiege while terrifying American enemies."

But the most jaw-dropping segment of all is this little tidbit (the bold-emphasis is NOT mine, it's in the article):

"He could then follow Caesar's example and use his newfound popularity with the military to wield military power to become the first permanent president of America, and end the civil chaos caused by the continually squabbling Congress and the out-of-control Supreme Court.

President Bush can fail in his duty to himself, his country, and his God, by becoming “ex-president” Bush or he can become “President-for-Life” Bush: the conqueror of Iraq, who brings sense to the Congress and sanity to the Supreme Court. Then who would be able to stop Bush from emulating Augustus Caesar and becoming ruler of the world? For only an America united under one ruler has the power to save humanity from the threat of a new Dark Age wrought by terrorists armed with nuclear weapons."


The article has been removed from the FSM website, but can still be viewed in it's entirity via this cached link:

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:cnnnSRimWmcJ:www.familysecuritymatters.org/index.php%3Fid%3D1208571+%22president+for+life+bush%22+site:familysecuritymatters.org&hl=en&client=firefox-ahttp://64.233.167.104/search%3Fq%3Dcache:cnnnSRi&hs=HPP&gl=us&strip=0


ON EDIT: Check out these interesting facts discovered by Free-Market News Network:

But, what about Family Security Matters?

Well, it turns out that "Family Security Matters (FSM) is a front group for the Center for Security Policy (CSP), a conservative Washington think tank "committed to the time-tested philosophy of promoting international peace through American strength." (The phone number listed on the FSM website is answered by the CSP.)

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Family_Secur...

So now we are led to the Center for Security Policy, and who's connected to that group?

Dick Cheney, Vice President of the U.S. under George W. Bush, was an early member of Center's Board of Advisors (which is now called the National Security Advisory Council).


Twenty-two CSP advisers -- including additional Reagan-era remnants like Elliott Abrams, Ken deGraffenreid, Paula Dobriansky, Sven Kraemer, Robert Joseph, Robert Andrews and J.D. Crouch -- have reoccupied key positions in the national security establishment, as have other true believers of more recent vintage."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_S...


http://www.fmnn.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=47419



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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 11:46 AM
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1. It's not like he has enacted any Executive Orders that would give him the power.
Oh, wait he has.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 11:47 AM
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2. This guy is completely off his rocker
"the out-of-control Supreme Court"

The SCOTUS has been doing Bush's bidding, and this guy thinks it's out of control.

What a nutjob.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 11:47 AM
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3. Would not that make
them the "Domestic" part of "All Enemies, Foreign and Domestic"?
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 11:51 AM
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9. Only if he were talking about Bill Clinton
But since he is talking about Shrub, he is a True American Patriot.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 11:47 AM
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4. Seems * and Hugo Chavez are singing from the same songbook eom
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RedStateShame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 11:48 AM
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5. Who else gets this guy's just writing what too many people are actually thinking?!
Maybe Atkinson and the "We Need Another 9-11" douchebag could be tried for treason?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 11:48 AM
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6. This cannot be serious.
:wtf:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 11:50 AM
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7. First of all this guy needs to get out a little more
empty Iraq of Arabs and repopulate the country with Americans, he would achieve immediate results: popularity with his military; enrichment of America by converting an Arabian Iraq into an American Iraq (therefore turning it from a liability to an asset);

American as an asset? Where is PT Barnum to empty this guy's bank account?

Secondly-what civil chaos with the Court and the Congress? The fact that they weren't allowed to rubberstamp every WH/corporation written bill AND add a declaration of how awesome Bush is to every one? Oh I see this is the perpetual culture of victimization that even in the throne Republicans suffer so.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 04:41 PM
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43. this is lunacy
and where would the 27 million Iraqi people go, onto reservations?, They are not going to give up their country, the Arab
world is not going to give up Iraq to US settlers that is beyond idiotic. There are 131 million islamic people in the M.E., they
are not going to accept a fundie state being built in their midst with a huge theme park and water slide. Then there is the
danger to Israel's six million people from a destabilized M.E.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 11:51 AM
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8. I dunno. Caesar was emperor for life for only a relatively short period of time.
Et tu, Brut?
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Efilroft Sul Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:44 PM
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25. Bush is so unlike Caesar.
1. Caesar actively sought out a military commission to fight in a foreign land. Bush saved the Texas Gulf Coast from the VC (when he felt like showing up).
2. Caesar wrote his "Commentaries." Bush read "My Pet Goat."
3. Caesar bucked the Optimates, members of his own rich class, to become a politician in the Populares tradition and serve the greater electorate. Bush is all about serving his class and not the masses.
4. Caesar made his fortune as a political governor. Bush made a fortune to become a governor.
4. Caesar shared political power with Crassus and Pompey. Bush shares nothing with nobody.

Still, they both pissed on their respective Constitutions, so there is that.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 04:39 AM
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38. Julius Caesar was NEVER Emperor he refused titles n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:05 AM
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42. But no one would ever accuse Rove of having a lean and hungry look...
especially the lean part
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 11:53 AM
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10. All you need to know about the fascist who wrote this bullshit
A clear case of a weakling with severe arrested development:

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/author.htm

"Like all children I wanted to be accepted by my peers and be part of the gang of small boys who lived in the street. They were my heroes, I hung on every word they said, and I did everything I could to win their approval. Their contemptuous treatment of me I accepted as only natural because I was the youngest and weakest. They were tough and clever while I was puny and inexperienced. But one day this all changed. To my delight, a boy who was smaller and younger than me, moved into the street, and I knew that it would only be a matter of time before I could demonstrate my superiority to the newcomer. And when the gang resolved to have a boxing competition, I felt that this was my chance. Previously I would have been omitted from such a competition as being too weak to match in a fight, but now there was a possible partner, and as the gang split up into matched pairs I was pitted against the new boy. And when it was our turn to box, I gently, but firmly, displayed my clear superiority. Alas, when the judges, the oldest boys, declared the result, it was not me, but the new boy, who was deemed the winner. I was stunned."
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:02 PM
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12. Burtworm, I wouldn't trivialize this by killing the messenger
We all know the recent directives that have been put into place to enable Bush to become a dictator if he sees fit. Including the fact that this think-tank that Atkinson works for is linked to Cheney. I find this article to be very alarming. Sure the guy is a nut. But so is Bush. And so is Cheney. They are dangerous people with a very dangerous neo-conservative agenda.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:25 PM
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17. I agree
Nutjob or not, he's just said EXACTLY what they've wanted all along.

Nuclear supremacy- Our right to use nukes on anyone, anywhere, for any reason
Iraq Depopulated- or at least completely docile, where we could send people from here to colonize
An Emperor- an end to checks and balances, an end to dissenting voices.

If these were any other times, I'd say they were out of their minds. Now, I just say "Damn these people! When is everyone going to say 'ENOUGH!'?"
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:34 PM
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24. No doubt about any of what you said.
Edited on Fri Aug-17-07 12:35 PM by BurtWorm
I was merely saying that Atkinson's bio shows that this type of position is rooted in the proponent's ego disorder, not in political philosophy.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 05:33 PM
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30. Unfortunately too many Republican AND Democratic Congresspeople...

are beholden to nutjobs just like this.
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Nomad559 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 11:54 AM
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11. Neo-Cons: Make Bush Dictator Of The World
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:03 PM
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13. peace through war, up is down, left is right
unbelievable. no, wait. it is NOT unbelievable.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:05 PM
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14. Republicans. Hate. Democracy.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:11 PM
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15. Including Supreme Court Justices
This creeps me out every time I read it:

From Justice Scalia, a Chilling Vision of Religion’s Authority in America


PRINCETON, N.J. -- Earlier this year Antonin Scalia decided to share some aspects of his worldview with the public. His inspiration seems to have been the death penalty: recent debates with his colleagues on the Supreme Court and his general reflections on the legitimacy of the state taking to itself the power to kill a citizen. Justice Scalia spoke on these matters at the University of Chicago Divinity School in January, beginning with the ritual disclaimer that "my views on the subject have nothing to do with how I vote in capital cases"; his remarks appeared in the May issue of First Things: The Journal of Religion and Public Life. They are supplemented by his dissent to the court's decision on June 20 that mentally retarded people should not be executed. Justice Scalia's remarks show bitterness against democracy, strong dislike for the Constitution's approach to religion and eager advocacy for the submission of the individual to the state. It is a chilling mixture for an American.

Mr. Scalia seems to believe strongly that a person's religious faith is something that he or she (as a Roman Catholic like Mr. Scalia) must take whole from church doctrine and obey. In his talk in Chicago, Mr. Scalia noted with relief that the Catholic Church's recent opinion that the death penalty was very rarely permissible was not "binding" on Catholics. If it had been, Mr. Scalia said, this teaching would have led the church to "effectively urge the retirement of Catholics from public life," given that the federal government and 38 states "believe the death penalty is sometimes just."

Mr. Scalia apparently believes that Catholics, at least, would be unable to uphold, as citizens, views that contradict church doctrine. This is exactly the stereotype of Catholicism as papist mind control that Catholics have struggled against throughout the modern era and that John F. Kennedy did so much to overcome. But Mr. Scalia sees submission as desirable — and possibly the very definition of faith. He quotes St. Paul, "For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God."

"The Lord," Mr. Scalia explained in Chicago, "repaid — did justice — through His minister, the state."

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0708-03.htm
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-19-07 01:32 PM
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45. That about sums it up, Bloo. (n/t)
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:12 PM
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16. This organization is a front group for the uber neocon group, Center for Security Policy.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Family_Security_Matters

These people are deadly serious. Carol Taber runs Family Security Matters. Here's a page of videos of her television appearances: http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/press_tv.php
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:25 PM
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18. Il Dunce looks like he lost interest in the job some time ago.
He's probably got his own countdown clock going.



(521 days left.)
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:27 PM
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19. Um, did Stephen Colbert write this?
If not, then the GOP faithful should be the first to volunteer for relocation.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:29 PM
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20. Apparently, this guy has never read Julius Caesar, either.
He must've skipped over that ending, if you know what I mean!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:56 PM
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35. And where's that Praetorian Guard when we need them?
Now that's "checks and balances", old-school style.
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Laura S. Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:30 PM
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21. Cheney? Why, of course!
So now we are led to the Center for Security Policy, and who's connected to that group?

Dick Cheney, Vice President of the U.S. under George W. Bush, was an early member of Center's Board of Advisors (which is now called the National Security Advisory Council).

Sigh.....why aren't I surprised?:grr:
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 05:44 PM
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Exactly Laura S.
And welcome to DU! :hi:
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:30 PM
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22. K&R
Now we have it- the unvarnished truth of what they want. Thank you so much for digging this up, even though it got pulled.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:31 PM
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23. So, essentially, Aaudi Arabians blow up the Twin Towers, ergo George gets to nuke Iraq.
Edited on Fri Aug-17-07 12:32 PM by baby_mouse
... Okay.

Some people in your country just aren't very bright, are they?
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:49 PM
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26. Sadly I could see it happening, regardless of what anyone says or does.
The 2008 elections are over a year away, enough time for 365 9/11s, just what the doctor ordered for the fuhrer to name himself supreme ruler. It must be stopped.

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:58 PM
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27. This is disgusting and evil. How can people be THIS vile?
And Bush isn't fit to lick Caesar's boots. Caesar actually gave a shit about 'the people.'
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:52 PM
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28. And yet, Caesar is eventually assassinated for being overly ambitious...
... turning this lunacy into perhaps the perfect metaphor.

"Drawbacks of democracy" indeed. In less stupefied times, this was called the "crisis of democracy."

This means, according to St. Noam of Chomsky, that "The bewildered herd never gets properly tamed, so this is a constant battle. In the 1930s they arose again and were put down. In the 1960s there was another wave of dissidence. There was a name for that. It was called by the specialized class 'the crisis of democracy.'... The crisis was that large segments of the population were becoming organized and active and trying to participate in the political arena. Here we come back to these two conceptions of democracy. By the dictionary definition, that's an advance in democracy. By the prevailing conception that's a problem, a crisis that has to be overcome. The population has to be driven back to the apathy, obedience and passivity that is their proper state. We therefore have to do something to overcome the crisis. Efforts were made to achieve that. It hasn't worked. The crisis of democracy is still alive and well, fortunately, but not very effective in changing policy."

More here:

http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/talks/9103-media-control.html



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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:59 PM
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29. I've made a PDF of the front page
If it ever leaves the realm of the Google cache, anybody can PM me and I'll email it to them.

I have PDF writer, which "prints out" to a PDF file instead of a printer. Works pretty well...
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 05:41 PM
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31. Very cool. Thanks krispos42. n/t
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 05:51 PM
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33. Anyone who befriends a neo-con is not working with a full deck.
There has to be big money in that lobby group.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:47 PM
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34. In September, Congress will grant him that power.
Why not? They give him everything he wants.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:57 PM
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36. About the author, Philip Atkinson
I just had to look this up.


Philip Atkinson


hilip Atkinson was born in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England, on the 7th June 1947, the result of a wartime marriage between a state registered nurse and a Captain in the Royal Army Ordinance Corps. His father had been educated at Cambridge University before working for some years for the foreign office in Africa, but was an ardent supporter of George Orwell and a socialist. So after being demobbed and winning the position as lecturer in History at Kings college, Newcastle, he decided to plant his family among the proletariat, the heroes of Nineteen Eighty-Four. This meant his middle-class wife and three children lived for the next fourteen years on a new council estate in the company of resettled slum dwellers. And this action, inspired by inverted snobbery, had a lasting impact upon his spouse and offspring, especially his middle-child.

Like all children I wanted to be accepted by my peers and be part of the gang of small boys who lived in the street. They were my heroes, I hung on every word they said, and I did everything I could to win their approval. Their contemptuous treatment of me I accepted as only natural because I was the youngest and weakest. They were tough and clever while I was puny and inexperienced. But one day this all changed. To my delight, a boy who was smaller and younger than me, moved into the street, and I knew that it would only be a matter of time before I could demonstrate my superiority to the newcomer. And when the gang resolved to have a boxing competition, I felt that this was my chance. Previously I would have been omitted from such a competition as being too weak to match in a fight, but now there was a possible partner, and as the gang split up into matched pairs I was pitted against the new boy. And when it was our turn to box, I gently, but firmly, displayed my clear superiority. Alas, when the judges, the oldest boys, declared the result, it was not me, but the new boy, who was deemed the winner. I was stunned.

For some time afterwards I struggled to understand this decision. I knew that I had won the fight, but this was not enough; it was not my stature nor strength but some innate personal quality that condemned me. It was clear that regardless of what I did, I would never win the respect of my peers, so I stopped trying. But I also knew the judges had lied, so to understand their motive I started to look closely at my erstwhile heroes and began to see their undeniable flaws. They were not rational; they had rejected me out of prejudice. While they were all larger than me, I found they only presented a threat as a group. Alone, they not only left me in peace, but seemed a little nervous at my presence. And in games that required strategy, I found it was easy to best them. My esteem for my peers became replaced by contempt, and planted the seed of suspicion in my mind that my whole community was of the same calibre —foolish cowards. A notion that experience rarely confounded but often confirmed, so insensibly I became a social exile.

This was just as well, for in a declining community any citizen who retains respect for the truth must become alienated from the majority of his fellow citizens because they hate the truth. Inevitably I could only ever be a social outcast, but being freed from the need to win social approval also meant being freed from social prejudices, and being able to see my community more clearly; a detachment that is essential for any student of society.

Read more at the link.

It sounds like this poor soul OD'd on Leo Strauss.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 07:35 PM
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37. What a nutjob.
Why are these right wing authoritarian neo-con types always so self-absorbed and victimized?
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 10:59 AM
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41. Maybe they're compensating for something or want to get some revenge?
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 10:58 AM
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39. He is INSANE
I looked at some of his 'book' about decline. He is explicitly against democracy, and attributes a lot of evils to the establishment of universal suffrage, which led to society's 'children ruling the parents'. He contrasts 'patrists' who identify with the father and are 'dutiful' with 'matrists' who identify with the mother and are 'self-indulgent', and suggests that the trouble with society is that there are too many 'matrists' nowadays. Among other things, the good 'patrists' consider that 'tradition determines the status of the sexes', 'accept without question', consider innovation to be 'perilous', and have a 'hatred of homosexuality', while the undesirable 'matrists' consider that 'neither sex has any claim to obedience or respect', 'question everything', consider innovation to be 'fun', and have a 'hatred of pedophilia'. In bringing up children, 'even after the age of seven years of age, when the child can reason, instruction must be continued without explanation, as unquestioning obedience to authority is one of the requirements of a dutiful citizen'.

He is a nutcase; and I am ashamed to note that he was born in Britain. I hope that no one takes him seriously.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 10:59 AM
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40. another pundit wiping his ass with Our Constitution.
fuck these assholes....
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44. Kick!!!! eom
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