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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 12:41 AM Original message |
Beliefs don't matter. They don't determine the value of a person. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. I was with you until the body of your post. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 12:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Right- I totally understand your objection. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 01:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I see what you are saying. |
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Zensea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
2. sounds like existentialism |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 01:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. It could be existentialist |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 01:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. A fellow philosopher! |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 02:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I actually did read the first few pages of |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 02:04 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Some of his other stuff is very approachable. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Sartre is such an underrated writer. "No Exit" and "The Flies" are two |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 01:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Here's an interesting introduction to existential ethics: |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 01:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. That's sort of a bastardized (not a slam) version of existentialism |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 02:04 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I think I have to disagree with the assertion that you can't |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 02:05 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Yeah, I'm really excited to discuss that more. But I have to go to bed - tomorrow! |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
3. "If we want to be good people..." How wonderfully idealistic. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 01:13 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Well, if people don't want to be good people, then they probably, |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
27. So let's use the extreme example for effect |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
5. For a practical example, I used to accompany rape victims who wanted to get an abortion |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 01:18 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Yes, beliefs in many instances do lead to action. So it helps to |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 01:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Oh I absolutely KNOW they were thinking about the effect they would have on young girls! |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 01:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Yes, but the common thread in your argument is that |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 02:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Uhm I'm not following you. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 02:17 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. My point is just the focusing point of judgment. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 02:35 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Sorry them, I firmly disagree with your premise. I have seen beliefs actually "do" things to people |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
9. Belief is critical |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
12. It's not possible to separate beliefs from actions. |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 02:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. But I think the original point |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 02:43 AM Response to Original message |
24. Nicely thought through... |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-17-07 02:57 AM Response to Original message |
26. Just wanted to add......... GOOD TOPIC |
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