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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 04:46 PM
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If ever there was a time for these bastards to have a "terrorist" attack, it is now.
Far from making me excited, these latest revelations are making me a bit nervous. Desperate times call for desperate measures and it's not beyond this group to stage yet another "terrorist" attack inside the country or to have "Iran" attack one of our ships in the Gulf in a last ditch attempt to hold on to power. What's worse is that it probably would work. Prior to the 2006 midterms I don't think it would have helped their cause at all but now they have nothing to lose so they can go for broke.

We have to remember who we are dealing with here, people who are so convinced that their way is the only way for America to survive that they will sacrifice anyone or anything to maintain their agenda. Maybe I'm just being paranoid but I think these next weeks and months might be the scariest and most uncertain times we will face in the history of the country. We've seen enough of what these people are capable of to know they will not just surrender without a fight. They will use any means necessary to maintain their grip on power be it a terror attack, an attack on our navy or dropping a nuke.

We must be very wary now, the rat is cornered.
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Randy Ranger Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 04:58 PM
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1. I Totally agree with that thought
Didn't I just hear that our pResident has just sent a third carrier to the middle east?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 05:02 PM
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2. I'm more optimistic - it's too late for Chimpy and Co,. to pull the
war/threat/ card out again - they've abused it and the people know it and it is why they elected a Democratic Congress. Since it is the war that is the number one problem Chimpy has, another war will just highlight that he's doing the same thing.

It'll even make it look like they are revenging themselves on the American People.

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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 05:26 PM
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3. Yes, agreed, these rats don't want to be cornered
and they will do ANYTHING!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 05:29 PM
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4. They no longer have the ways and means
to pull off such a thing and make it look like someone else did it.

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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 06:35 PM
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6. I don't know.
They've had plenty of time to cook up another plan over the years. They may not need a complex attack like the Trade Center job that would involve many people.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 06:50 PM
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9. I don't think
they thought they would ever need another one.

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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 07:51 PM
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15. That's possible.
Considering the way they plan and expect their plans to work you could be right. Hopefully you are.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 05:29 PM
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5. Super Bowl in two weeks...
What a stage... :scared:
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:44 AM
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16. Too much revenue to attack.
They won't go after the NFL.
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eerriicc Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 06:38 PM
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7. it won't happen
terrorists need the democrats to get into power to regroup. Bin Laden claimed retribution on any state that voted for Bush
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 06:50 PM
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8. You're assuming Bin Laden or terrorists will have anything to do with it.
I'm saying the neo-cons will do it themselves to justify staying in power or starting the next war.

Having the Democrats in power is the last thing the actual terrorists want because this group has been such a great recruiting tool for them.
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eerriicc Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 06:52 PM
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10. they already have that
now they need more apologists in power, rather then war hawks.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 06:55 PM
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12. Too bad for them Bill Frist retired
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 06:56 PM by ck4829
"You need to bring them (The Taliban) into a more transparent type of government."
- Bill Frist, on letting the Taliban enter the Afghan government as a legitimate party.

http://pandagon.net/2006/10/03/bill-frist-calls-for-the-taliban-to-be-included-in-afghan-government/
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 07:00 PM
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14. Apologists?
You have a strange view of things. I think it more likely that the Democrats would end the unnecessary war in Iraq and concentrate on fighting the actual terrorists which is what we should have been doing from the start. The misadventure in Iraq for oil and war profits has curtailed the actual war against terrorism, created more terrorists and made us less safe. I don't know where you are getting this apologist thing. Nobody likes terrorists or apologizes for them around here.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 06:57 PM
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13. Hey there eerriicc.
eennjjooyy yyoouurr ssttaayy.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:54 AM
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19. You might be on the wrong board?
The h*^d up your a#* board is on the right of your screen.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 06:55 PM
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11.  They may have plans A-Z all in place
I would not be surprized that they even considered they could have lost the 2006 elections . After all they know about progressive radio's efforts and the grass roots efforts so I feel they would have a backup plan just in case .

Hell , they play games all the time with senerios of what would it take to do this or that to just about every situation .

So I would not be surprised if there were another so called terrorist attack .

Look at how they protected themselves so far with their complete control where getting them out of office is concerned .

These are dangerous times and Iran looks more and more likely to be attacked . It's all about oil and securing it .
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:48 AM
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17. The Terrorists have NO REASON to attack the USA now!
We're going an excellent job of shredding our Constitution on our own.

Dear Leader is FEAR MONGERING ad nauseaum to the point we'll be turning in our weird neighbors to the FEDs before 2008. :puke: :scared:

My point: We are allowing the Neo-Cons to scare the populace into DESTROYING OURSELVES (Democratic Republic) without them lifting a finger (or gleaning a Visa). :thumbsdown:
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:49 AM
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18. Right. But the Neo-cons do.
They're in desperation mode.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:57 AM
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20. No, too many rats have jumped ship!
Edited on Wed Jan-24-07 02:00 AM by ShortnFiery
IMO, there's not enough support to launch an covert operation. Remember, Dear Leader's "bull in a china store" civilian administrators have seriously pissed-off career officer SPOOKS in both the CIA and Pentagon PsyOps. They've made far too many enemies that even Poppy's men can't bail out Dimson now. :shrug:

In fact, this Administration, other than secrecy can NOT grab their butts with both hands. Look at the "Key Stone Kops" management of the Iraqi's hanging of Saddam and his half brother? If you honestly think that we (USA Advisors at the scene) didn't have our fingers in that pie, IMO you haven't lived much. ;) Even if, by some stretch of the imagination, the Iraqi Government forced us to merely hand off these men, then we are in more trouble stablizing Iraq than what's been briefed. :scared:

We must encourage our Democratic Representatives to keep their spine and NOT allow Dear Leader to paralyze their actions to reinstate the Constitution.

We must stay strong and not allow these hideous war profiteers to keep the people afraid to stand up for their civil liberties.
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Tulum_Moon Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 02:13 AM
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21. I Wonder?
Have we ever REALLY been attacked? And by who?
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 03:35 AM
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22. Oh, WE were attacked all right.
But the WHO question is right on the money.

You know, if you're going to have a "War on Terror" (tm), then you'd better know for sure who is terrorizing you and why.
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GreenZoneLT Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 04:11 AM
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23. Oh, give it up
Don't you tin-foil hat guys ever get tired of this prediction? Osama bin Laden's in custody, and is going to be sprung just before the 2004 election -- no, wait, the 2006 election -- no, wait, Osama bin Laden doesn't even exist!

I've worked for the military off and on for 20-some-odd years, and I can absolutely freakin' guarantee we couldn't pull off one of these October surprise, false-flag conspiracies without either completely botching it, or somebody talking before it even got sprung. They don't exist.

I mean, just read the Gulf of Tonkin tape transcripts. LBJ didn't know WHAT the hell was going on in that incident, and he bitched about the Navy frequently exaggerating "attacks" in the fog of battle.

Here's how something like that would actually work. Some evil genius in the Bush Cave would have to come up with the plot. Then a bunch of insiders would have to flesh out the major pieces of it. Then they'd ship it over to the Pentagon, where a whole RAFT of field-grade officers would have to be brought in, to write all the thousands and thousands of detailed plans involving personnel, fuel, sailing dates, weapons loadouts, etc., etc. Then you'd have to issue these "secret" orders to commanders in the field. All along the way, you've got guys who vote Democrat (a minority, but not a tiny one) with clearance and need-to-know. Not to mention the vast majority of conservative Republican officers who aren't going to obey orders to attack their comrades. They'd talk; hell, I would.

Conspiracy theorists act like it just takes a few members of the cabal to push a button. There's no button, and nothing on the other end, without a zillion gabby bureaucrats being involved who have to believe the mission is legal in order to keep it secret.
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SecularMotion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 06:45 AM
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25. It's DEMOCRATIC
Get it right!

"All along the way, you've got guys who vote Democrat (a minority, but not a tiny one) with clearance and need-to-know."
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GreenZoneLT Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 07:20 AM
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26. Yeah, you're right
Hmm. I'm not sure that "vote Democrat" is necessarily incorrect, as long as you don't MEAN "vote Democratic." It could be a telegraphic way to say "vote for the Democrat," rather than "vote for the Democratic candidate."

"Vote Democratic" as an imperative isn't grammatically correct, anyway, any more than "vote Democrat" is. To me, "vote Democrat" is in the same shortened style as "Vote Mondale." You wouldn't say "Vote Mondalean," wouldja?

But re-reading the sentence, it definitely reads as an adjective. Democratic it is.

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Boxerfan Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 10:01 AM
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27. I agree Bushco has never displayed competency...But they just ALLOWED it to happen
As a person who works with metal all day every day for the last 32 years I don't believe the WTC7 story.Not for one second. If that one stinks the rest stink right? Yep-do the research before you try telling us they had no hand in it.

All Bushco had to do was call up thier old buddy & bussines partner Osama Bin Laden. Then ignore & obfuscate all the warnings-That they could do competently....
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 10:15 AM
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28. Don't need the military to do it...
the CIA can do these things on their own just fine...with a tight squad of mercs. People will do a lot of things for money, and they'll keep their mouths shut too.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 06:38 AM
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24. Of course the cabal would arrange one
If they thought it would work. Let's hope they believe it won't.
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