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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:25 PM
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Man charged with throwing wife from balcony


A 51-year-old Kansas City man was charged with second-degree murder Wednesday evening for allegedly throwing his wife from the balcony of their fourth-floor apartment.

Court documents say Stanley Reimer, 51,was in desperate financial straits because of medical expenses for his wife, Criste Reimer, 47, who suffered from uterine cancer and numerous other medical problems.

According to documents, Stanley Reimer walked his wife to the balcony of the apartment Tuesday night, kissed her, then threw her to her death. Her body was found on the pavement outside the Plaza Point Apartments, 4901 Wornall Road.

Reimer was being held Wednesday night in the Jackson County jail on $250,000 cash bond, and his arraignment is scheduled for this afternoon.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/233633.html
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:27 PM
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1. How bad do things have to get before we all get a clue?
:nuke:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:36 PM
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3. This is just one of the saddest things I have read in a long time
:cry:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:42 PM
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5. I hit my limit when about a mile away from here, an elderly mom
ended her schizophrenic son's life with pills and then, took her own life ending dose.

She was in her 70s, and she was tired.

:cry:
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 06:32 AM
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10. For some people, the answer is...
> How bad do things have to get before we all get a clue?

For some people, the answer is "appallingly obnoxiously bad".
Here in New Hampshire, there are still plenty of "W" stickas
driving around on the roads although "Mitt" stickers are
starting to show up as well. The clue phone still hasn't
awakened these people, even though it's been ringing off
the hook for years now.

Tesha
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:31 PM
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2. so apparently he confessed?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:39 PM
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4. That is so sad. I hurt for both of them.
It really really sucks that people in this country are falling through the cracks
because of lack of health care and affordable insurance and outsourcing and
some of these people are just strapped and see no way out of their misery and pain!

REVOLUTION!!!!!!! :grr: :grr:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 03:57 AM
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8. These people were not poor
They live in a high dollar apartment in one of the nicest areas in town.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:11 PM
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6. Sounds like he unloaded her. Literally. How twisted, to
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 11:12 PM by wienerdoggie
invite her outside (wonder what he said to her? "Look at the stars"?) and kiss her, as if they were going to share some romance, and then grab her and toss her over--what MUST that poor betrayed woman's final thoughts have been? To suffer from cancer, and then your husband murders you because of financial problems due to YOUR cancer--awful. I think health care expenses only play a minor role in this, frankly, even though I know I might be flamed for it. Married people have gone broke the world over, since time eternal--but you don't kill your wife because she's costing you too much money. This guy is a cold-hearted killer.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 06:37 AM
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11. Where's the evidence to support your claim?
Edited on Thu Aug-16-07 06:40 AM by Tesha
Perhaps the couple agreed on this exit. Perhaps her
religious beliefs barred her from committing suicide,
but she couldn't stand life anymore. The article offers
no information on what the prognosis for her cancer
was; perhaps it wasn't for years of wine, brie, and
Yahtzee on the balcony?

Your conclusion seems a bit hasty given the scant
facts in the article.

Mr. Tesha and I both watched our parents go in long,
lingering, and nasty deaths, and we're no spring
chickens ourselves so we've given each other (and
our doctors and lawyers) fairly stern instructions
on how certain eventualities should be handled.
Balconies don't figure-in to our plans, but you
never know...

Tesha
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 07:33 AM
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13. evidence
I don't think you should condemn Wienerdoggie any more than you condemn the poster who says he/she feels bad for both of them. What evidence is there to conclude we should feel bad for the husband? Maybe he is a cold-hearted killer. Did he report the death himself? Try to cover it up? Lie to the police?

I lean to the side that says this guy is a piece of crap. I am married with two small kids. The notion that I would throw my wife off a balcony to her death is ludicrous. We all like to romanticize this act is if the husband was trying to save her somehow. He wasn't saving her; he was killing her. And if it was over finances, that is even more despicable. My guess is that the husband was in dire straits and saw this as a way to save himself financially. I do not believe it was because he didn't have affordable health insurance or that he was trying to end her life in a sweet and tender fashion rather than watch the cancer slowly ravage her. Is a 4-story fall to your death really the way a patient wants to die? If it was an act of love, it would have been a more peaceful method.

I predict the evidence will show this was cold-blooded murder. There are some seriously bad people in this world who kill for money or convenience. We can't lay this tragedy at the feet of the health insurance industry.



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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 07:34 AM
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14. In other words, you have no more evidence than I do. (NT)
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 07:41 AM
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15. exactly
But you were the one who made the point of saying Wienerdoggie had no evidence he was a killer, whereas you didn't question the poster who said he/she felt bad for the husband. So you're biased toward thinking the husband has a valid excuse for what he did.

I admit I don't know the details of this case. My post said I PREDICT the evidence will show . . . . Just my educated guess.

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 07:44 AM
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16. There is no rule requiring me to reply to every post.
Your argument is entirely fallacious.

Tesha
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:13 PM
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7. til death do us part?
wow...speechless
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 04:08 AM
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9. It's not him I feel bad for


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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 06:45 AM
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12. I'm at a loss for words... How sad.........
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 08:30 AM
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17. More info in this article.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/16/wife.killed.ap/index.html

snip:
According to Jackson County Probate Court records, Criste Reimer had been in ill health for several years. Her weight had fallen to 75 pounds and she was partly blind.

According to the court records, she had no health insurance to pay for medical bills that ranged from $700 to $800 per week.

The Probate Court documents were filed in April, when Stanley Reimer petitioned to be allowed to sell personal property his wife owned in Wheeler County, Texas, for $20,000.

The documents listed her assets at approximately $6,700, with monthly income of $725 from oil royalties and Supplemental Security Income.

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What an awful death for that woman. I have so many questions.. Could she have been placed on Medicaid or were her assets/income too much? Was her texas personal property ever sold? Did the husband work or was he her only caregiver? Why isn't the medical community advising people on where to go to get help..if help is available?

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 02:13 PM
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18. Lots of holes in the story
How did they afford to live in an apartment in a very upscale area? This neighborhood is similar price wise to those in NY along Central Park. These are the MOST expensive and exclusive apartments and condos in Kansas City. Several KC Chiefs coaches have lived there, the GM for the Chiefs lives there, only very very wealthy people live in apartments on The Plaza. So we can't possibly be talking about a poor couple struggling to survive. No way.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 02:51 PM
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19. One bedrooms go for between $735. and $795.
That includes utilities. Not all that high.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 03:08 PM
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20. In Kansas City, that is high
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 03:36 PM
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21. I heard on the cable news that she did have a caregiver,
According to what I heard, the caregiver is the one who told police that the woman was blind and had other medical issues besides the cancer, that would make it impossible for her to jump or even fall over the railing without assistance.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:40 PM
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22. ttt
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