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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:00 PM
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So poor pitiful Edwards who can't get any media attention, was on the Today show, and will be on CBS
Of course we all know that recently, Elizabeth Edwards was complaining how her husband can't get any media attention because he's not Black like Barack Obama, or a woman like Hillary Clinton. Awwww.....poor, pitiful John Edwards.

And this evening, while listening to Stacy Taylor fill in for Randi Rhodes, he picked up on that same thing, saying how John Edwards just can't get any media attention.

Well.....he's so lacking for media attention, that he and Elizbeth were on the Today show earlier this week, and they will be on CBS (with Katie Couric) later this week.

I guess being on the Today show and the CBS Evening News just really prevents you from reaching the masses of people and getting any media attention.

I'm just saying....
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:03 PM
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1. After his showing in the CA straw poll, I believe he'll be everywhere all
of a sudden. I'm still trying to figure out that CA thing...
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:05 PM
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2. What'd the CA straw poll show?
I missed it.

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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:12 PM
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5. I honestly don't know if this means anything or not:
From DailyKos:

Here are the results of the presidential straw poll held today in Los Angeles at the California Democratic Council's (CDC) annual convention.

Edwards 41%
Undecided 20%
Obama 14%
Kucinich 11%
Clinton 8%
Richardson 6%
Biden 0%
Dodd 0%
Gravel 0%

For those of you not familiar with the CDC, membership in the CDC consists of the Democratic clubs throughout the state, County Central Committees, Young Democrat and College Democratic Clubs, as well as a number of ex-officio members.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/8/13/15858/1619
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:27 PM
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11. According to this post from the President of the CDC, it matters little, since
it was not the entire membership, but a small sample of the people at one moment:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3447797&mesg_id=3449861


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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:35 PM
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17. Ah, thanks. It seems a little "off".
I mean, Hillary with 8% in CA? Come on.


(I wish) :hi:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:31 PM
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13. WATCH them turn that upside down as quickly as possible . . ..
The GOP needs to have someone in office to keep things covered up -- if Bush is actually leaving.

If not a Repug . . . then a willing/corrupt Dem -- I think that's Biden --

Undecided -- 20%-- !!!

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:05 PM
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3. He was also interviewed on CNN tonight. Hardball I think.
But it is true, the media is really promoting Obama & Clinton.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:06 PM
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4. It'll be interesting when people actually start pulling levers in primaries.
I think there will be quite a surprise.

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:13 PM
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6. Yes. All the polling #'s they give now are national, or most are.
The time does seem to be going pretty fast though. I remember when they first started talking about the 08 election campaign, and I thought they were completely nuts! It was 2+ years away!!!!
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:18 PM
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7. He and Elizabeth were on Good Morning America within the last week or so too.
The focus does seem to be on Obama and Clinton but he does get air time. I think he is someone that is more likable over time so the more air time for him, the better. Who knows where he will be months from now.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:20 PM
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8. I don't recall anyone saying Edwards wasn't getting any press
The press he has been getting is all smear and negative. The right wing controlled media is doing their job of trying to smear Edwards, he is their target this primary season just as Howard Dean was in 04.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:23 PM
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9. Elizabeth Edwards complained about it...saying they can't make John black or a woman...and then
Stacy Taylor was complaining too....poor pitiful John Edwards (who probably has enough money to buy a television station, btw) can't get any media attention, so says his wife.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:32 PM
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14. Hey! Make Dennis Kucinich 6' tall, please . . ..
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:23 PM
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10. He was??? Damn. Maybe the media has decided to stop telling us whom to vote for? nt
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Mutineer Donating Member (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:28 PM
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12. Highly unlikely.
That's their raison d'etre.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:34 PM
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15. True. How could I have forgotten. :(
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:35 PM
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16. My good friend, your OP is very disingenuous at best...
If you believe the MSM has given Edwards the same attention as HRC or BO then you are either blind or ignorant.

It is about time Edwards was given some MSM time, especially since HRC and BO have started addressing the issues that Edwards has been leading on from the start.

Thanks for the heads up on when to catch Edwards' coverage!
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:43 PM
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18. Edwards has BEEN getting MSM coverage...I just think it's disengenuous to say he hasn't been
The media has been helping to promote the paperback version of Elizabeth Edward's book, Saving Graces, for example. I've heard them talking about it.

It seems to be the Edwards supporters are just looking for someone to blame, for his poor standing in the polls.

But Edwards has definitely been getting attention. Give me a break.

I think YOU'RE the ignorant one if you haven't seen that.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:09 PM
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22. No one is as blind as he who will not see....
I won't waste my time or yours by compiling a list of MSM coverage of the three leading candidates which shows that Edwards was virtually ignored by the MSM.

But if you wish to live in fantasy land, by all means....
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trayted Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:16 PM
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25. 90% of Edwards' coverage has been hit pieces. A few courtesy appearances means zilch
Obama and Clinton get pushed with out ever having to be on television with all of these "Clinton v. Obama" stories. There's nothing like free press.

The media rip John Edwards to shreds and then invite him on and give him 3 minutes or so, and then rip him for the next 2 weeks, and then have him on again.

So what? No one has ever said that John Edwards doesn't "get attention." They say that most of the attention that he gets is fake scandal after fake scandal.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:45 PM
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19. the media has always focused on hillary and obama
then obama and clinton decided to have their spats in public and of course the msm circled like a flock of vultures. meanwhile edwards was trying to get some traction but he has had little success. now that obama and clinton have stopped their bickering it seems edwards is being covered. maybe if clinton and obama stop bickering all the candidates can get some quality air time....of course i`m being optimistic
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:27 PM
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20. They're Both True
and I think what Elizabeth Edwards said is being taken out of context. I get what she was trying to say, but it still seems like a kind of stupid thing to say. That's strange, because Mrs. Edwards is one smart lady.

So, Hillary being the first female and Obama being the first African American candidates with a serious shot at the White House, that generates a certain amount of excitement and interest. Of course their qualifications had to put them in the place to where they would be considered viable, but once they got there, they keep getting this boost because they are novelties. Truth be told, I don't understand why Richardson isn't getting more attention, since he's the first Hispanic candidate and he has an awesome resume.

Edwards does not get that kind of attention because although he has some very solid credentials and policies, there is nothing novel about him. Another WASP male. A lawyer running for President. YAWN. Plus, he ran before. Nope, nothing new here. So in that sense, Edwards does have a harder time of it with Clinton and Obama than he would if he were running against the usual suspects. So, while he may get air time, etc. it's not the same kind of enthusiastic coverage that is given to Hillary and Obama.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:48 PM
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21. If you think Edwards supporters are the only people
who noticed that Edwards wasn't get as much air time, you should read the articles in Rolling Stone
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/15825410/the_real_liberal and Esquire
http://www.esquire.com/features/edwardscontest0807 and both mentioned how he's the long shot since he is a white male. Go figure.

zalinda
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:10 PM
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23. please explain his national polling then
Because he has the best likeability #s and he beats the all the GOP contenders head to head.
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trayted Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:12 PM
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24. Actually, this happens all of the time. People like me talk about the media "Obama v. Clinton" bias
And then John Edwards gets booked on several shows.

It doesn't matter. They trash him so much, that him getting courtesy appearances from time to time does nothing to change the perception of him that the media have created. Go to any major website like ABC or CBS or NY Times and WaPo, and if they have a comments section, 75% of the comments are calling Edwards a "phony," because that's what the media has called him since February.

Courtesy appearances do nothing to change the fact that the media has pushed "Clinton v Obama" with those exact headlines since January and trashed John Edwards since February.

The damage has been done.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:20 PM
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26. I am watching KO right now discussing Clinton vs Obama
Nothing about Edwards...
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