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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 02:03 PM
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NY Daily News: 9/11 workers outraged by new Rudy claim --->>>
Edited on Fri Aug-10-07 02:19 PM by Stephanie


Rudy "the Liar" Giuliani, better find something else to run on.




http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/08/10/2007-08-10_911_workers_outraged_by_new_rudy_claim.html

9/11 workers outraged by new Rudy claim
BY CELESTE KATZ
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Friday, August 10th 2007, 4:00 AM


Rudy Giuliani drew outrage and indignation from Sept. 11 first-responders yesterday by saying he spent as much time - or more - exposed to the site's dangers as workers who dug through the debris for the missing and the dead.

Speaking to reporters at a Cincinnati Reds ballgame he caught between fund-raisers, the GOP front-runner said he helped 9/11 families and defended himself against critics of how he managed the attack's aftermath.

"This is not a mayor or a governor or a President who's sitting in an ivory tower," Giuliani said. "I was at Ground Zero as often, if not more, than most of the workers. I was there working with them. I was exposed to exactly the same things they were exposed to. So in that sense, I'm one of them."

His statement rang false to Queens paramedic Marvin Bethea, who said he suffered a stroke, posttraumatic stress disorder and breathing problems after responding to the attacks.

"I personally find that very, very insulting," he said.

"Standing there doing a photo-op and telling the men, 'You're doing a good job,' I don't consider that to be working," said Bethea, 47.

Ironworker Jonathan Sferazo, 52, who said he spent a month at the site and is now disabled, runs a worker advocacy group with Bethea and called Giuliani's comments "severely" out of line.

"He's not one of us. He never has been and he never will be. He never served in a capacity where he was a responder," Sferazo said.

In the aftermath of the attacks, admirers dubbed Giuliani "America's Mayor," praising his leadership in the face of an unprecedented disaster. Detractors, including the International Association of Fire Fighters, which put out a scathing 13-minute video on his performance, suggested he profited politically and financially from the attacks.

"Giuliani is self-absorbed, arrogant and deluded," said IAFF spokesman Jeff Zack.

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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 02:16 PM
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1. Let the backpedalling begin
this is gonna be hysterical.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 02:26 PM
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2. Attaboy Rudy!!
This is going to be even more fun than I expected, watching this phony make an ass of himself.

No wait, he's not MAKING an ass of himself, he has always been one. He's showing the world what an ass he is.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 02:42 PM
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3. curious: I recall Hollywood celebs being given access and private tours
Edited on Fri Aug-10-07 02:47 PM by npincus
to Ground Zero shortly after 9/11... I remember feeling pissed off, like how the f*ck do these as-holes get that kind of access just because they are STARS... when New Yorkers in mourning couldn't get within 3 blocks of the place (not that I thought they should, but neither should have these celebs). Wondering if Ghouliani did some of these celeb tours,and more specifically, WHO did he give access to the site of our national tragedy... was he showboating and doing photo-ops w/rich and famous?

It may be worth pursuing.. the question of who was given access by Ghouliani to Ground Zero and for what purpose? Since he has boasted of his attendance at the site (compared with rescue workers) it is fair game to ask WHEN he was there, WHAT he was doing there and with WHO.

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 03:42 PM
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4. Google new archives has some of it >
Edited on Fri Aug-10-07 03:43 PM by Stephanie


News Archives All Articles - Timeline Timeline for giuliani ground zero (0.22 seconds)


Sep, 2001» Terror in America: Security - At ground zero, Bush waves the Stars...
Subscription - The Independent (London, England) - HighBeam Research - Sep 15, 2001Among those accompanying the PRESIDENT to the site now known as "ground zero" was the Mayor of the city, Rudolph Giuliani, and the New York senator Hillary ...

US remembers - and readies for war - TVNZ
National nightmare keeps many on edge - USA Today
Chicago Tribune - Jerusalem Post - All 233 related - Related web pages



A NATION CHALLENGED: GROUND ZERO; Unwilling to Give Up Yet, Rescuers...
$4.95 - New York Times - Sep 20, 2001Despite the grim results, Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani said it was still too Early to ... Though below-GROUND fires continue to smoke, some firefighters have ...

Out of the dust emerges New York's mayor-hero. - Chicago Tribune - AccessMyLibrary.com ($6.95)
Morbid task of matching remains to names from... - Birmingham Post - HighBeam Research (Subscription)
Charlotte Observer - Dallas Morning News - All 122 related - Related web pages



Ground Zero: The bombing rippled out to touch all New Yorkers, who...
$6.95 - Newsweek - AccessMyLibrary.com - Sep 24, 2001In fact, homicides, which rose slightly In 2000, are down 11 percent In 2001 and 68 percent since Giuliani became mayor. In "Ground Zero," we reported that ...

Rebuilt towers likely to be half-height, says... - unison.ie
All 33 related - Related web pages




Oct, 2001» War On Terrorism: New York - Victims' families to get earth from...
Subscription - The Independent (London, England) - HighBeam Research - Oct 4, 2001Mayor Rudolph Giuliani made The announcement yesterday after he heard reports that con men were peddling fake mementos from "ground zero" to family members. ...

GIULIANI RULES OUT THIRD TERM NEW YORK CITY MAYOR... - Beacon Journal - NewsBank ($2.95)
Giuliani rules out third term; offers to stay for... - URI The Good 5 Cent Cigar - URI The Good 5 Cent...
unison.ie - Philadelphia Inquirer - All 42 related - Related web pages



Windows XP Debuts Near Ground Zero; New York Mayor on Hand For...
Subscription - Washington Post - HighBeam Research - Oct 26, 2001Gates, who For The first time yesterday visited Ground Zero, where The World Trade Center once stood, told Giuliani that he saluted him For his work ...

All 100 related - Related web pages



Memorial Service Held at Ground Zero for Families, Workers
FOX News - Oct 29, 2001The Sunday afternoon Memorial Service at Ground Zero in lower Manhattan was ... from The ruins at Ground Zero, as promised By Giuliani earlier this month. ...

Memorial service set for Ground Zero - CNN International
Families grieve at Ground Zero - BBC News
BBC News - Press Telegram - All 38 related - Related web pages




Nov, 2001» Firefighters Protest at Ground Zero
FOX News - Nov 2, 2001Mayor Rudolph Giuliani had announced the staffing cutbacks in the Ground Zero rescue searchers earlier this week, citing worker safety. ...

Cops, firefighters scaled back at Ground Zero - CNN International
12 NY firefighters arrested - Ground Zero clashes - rte.ie
United Press Internationa... - AP Online - All 23 related - Related web pages



… Protest - New York firemen march to ground zero after Giulia...
Subscription - The Independent (London, England) - HighBeam Research - Nov 3, 2001Campaign against Terrorism: Protest - New York firemen march to ground zero after Giuliani scales down hunt for remains.(News) ...

Ground Zero Change Angers Firefighters; 12... - Washington Post - HighBeam Research (Subscription)
Ground Zero Change Angers Firefighters; 12... - Washington Post - HighBeam Research (Subscription)
Boston Globe - Guardian Unlimited - All 69 related - Related web pages




Dec, 2001» Giuliani greets PM at Ground Zero
Subscription - Jerusalem Post - HighBeam Research - Dec 2, 2001Headline: Giuliani greets PM at Ground Zero Byline: MELISSA RADLER Edition; Daily Section: News page: 02 Sunday, December 2, 2001 -- NEW YORK - Over the ...

At ground zero, Sharon speaks of terrorism at... - Philadelphia Inquirer - NewsBank ($2.95)
Sharon wants American action Cites need for... - San Antonio Express-News - NewsBank ($2.95)
BBC News - All 188 related - Related web pages



A NATION CHALLENGED: GROUND ZERO; First Viewing Platform Opens to the...
$4.95 - New York Times - Dec 30, 2001By DIANE CARDWELL A sober Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, just days from leaving ... Public Viewing Platform at GROUND ZERO, encouraging all Americans to visit. ...

OBSERVATION DECK AT GROUND ZERO OPENS IN NEW YORK... - St. Louis Post-Dispatch - NewsBank ($2.95)
Ground Zero put on public view - BBC News
Milwaukee Journal... - Lexington Herald Leader - All 21 related - Related web pages


http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=giuliani+ground+zero&btnG=Search+Archives&hl=en&um=1&scoring=t&as_ldate=2001&as_hdate=2002
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 06:07 PM
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5. Thanks! Found one but...
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-78947811.html

this is all I can access without signing up for a 'free' 7-day subscription-- it's good, I'll keep looking:


At least some of the old rules still apply in New York. So when the mayor Rudolph Giuliani declared ground zero to be off limits to everyone except those involved in the salvage effort, you knew what to think. It means you can't get in unless you have contacts or a famous face.

A famously pretty face helps, too. The brand new Miss America, Katie Harman, breezed past the roadblocks recently to give, or so she hoped, a morale boost to the guys clawing through the ghastly wreckage. They liked it so much they had her autograph unused body-bag tags.

British royalty has also ...


Guiliani admitting Miss America, signing unused body bags at Ground Zero? WTF?



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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 06:48 PM
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7. that's disgusting
he's a disgusting POS
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 06:49 PM
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8. I just posted a thread on this...
I hope it doesn't disappear.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 06:10 PM
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6. More! From People Magazine:
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,26334,622717,00.html

Among the celebrities who made it past the barricades, which have been reinforced and made harder to break through in this past week: Muhammad Ali, Bette Midler, Chris Rock, Miss America Katie Harman, Chevy Chase, Candice Bergen, Alec Baldwin and boxing promoter Don King.

I remember that sh*t! I was fuming about it... I think this ought to be brought into the "conversation".
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 06:50 PM
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9. Perhaps we can get the comments of some of those celebs.
Perhaps they'd like to talk about taking the tour of Ground Zero with Hero Ghiuliani while the bodies of the dead still smoldered in the ground? Remember how long the fires burned? Weeks!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 06:54 PM
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10. my thread:
Edited on Fri Aug-10-07 06:54 PM by npincus
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1562569

I remember how f*cking furious I was... jetsetters flying in to have a look and satisfy their morbid curiosity, while the residents of the city and those affected were herded like cattle and squashed behind barricades blocks away. Who the f*ck did they think they were, and how in the hell did Ghouliani allow that?
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