Petition To Terminate Stu Bykofsky - (To save America, we need another 9/11)

[Ghost in the Machine]

Please read the email petition below and sign it if you agree with it. An email will automatically be sent to Stu Bykofsky's editor. Thank you....

We, the undersigned, are hereby requesting that you fire Stu Bykofsky. His recent column calling for another terrorist attack on this Country as a means to bring the Nation together politically was way over the line.

We recognize and encourage free speech, but free speech, as with any freedom, comes with a price. That price is to use that freedom wisely and responsibly. It is NOT responsible to advocate an attack on our Country. Actually, it borders on treason.

Thank you,

Concerned Americans Everywhere...

http://www.hqrnc.org/?q=node/5

[Dogmudgeon]

1. It's a bullshit petition. Bykofsky's piece is satire.

The site owner can't even handle the English language ("Headquarters Representatives Needing Changed"-- sic!). Satire is certainly beyond his/her small mind.

By the same logic, George Orwell was guilty of "treason". And Jonathan Swift. And Aristophanes.

And what's with all this "treason" crap? Are we turning into Freepers now?

--p!

[Ghost in the Machine]

2. Yours is a bullshit reply...

Let's see here.. I own the site. I'm small minded? Maybe you're the one who is small minded. Show me a sentence structure for your assertation, smart guy. "Representatives Needing Changed".. yep... there's many of them that are needing to be changed.

Your next mission is to show me where the article by this guy was satire. I'll be waiting..

[Dogmudgeon]

3. My next mission -- to find out why some DUers want censorship

First, read up a little bit on satire. Some key authors: George Orwell (1984), Jonathan Swift (A Modest Proposal), Aristophanes (Lysistrata), Leonard Lewin (Report from Iron Mountain on the Desirability of War), Terry Southern (Dead Gook Rimming; The Magic Christian).

Second, read the Bill of Rights before you start demanding that a man be fired from his job because he rubbed your tender sensibilities the wrong way. And check any good dictionary for the definition of "censorship".

Third, when you set up a petition to curtail free speech, at least re-read it to make sure it doesn't sound stupid AND fascistic. Here's your sentence: "Headquarters Representatives Needing Changed". I don't usually nit-pick on spelling or grammar, but that's just ridiculous. It's an -ing verb (a gerund) followed by an -ed verb (a past/passive participle). If you can't figure out why that is wrong, you seriously need to take a remedial English course, far beyond anything I have to say about your activism. Hint: It needs at least a comma and a different form of the verb to change.

You're an anonymous DUer linking to an anonymous website with no admission of your responsibility for your "product". That gives you no right to whine when someone calls it bullshit. And it's a Democrat-bashing site, too, so why shouldn't I criticize it? You could have been linking to the KKK for all anyone knows. So keep the personal insults, like your mission to trash the Constitution, to yourself.

YOUR next mission: get that fascist atrocity off the Internet before anyone else decides that censorship is a good idea.

--p!

[Ghost in the Machine]

4. You really *do* live in your own world, don't you?

I've seen you in 3 different threads trying to pass this off as satire, and guess what.. it hasn't flown, has it? Did YOU write the piece? Are you Stu Bykofsky? You sure do seem intent on making this blow over.

Is it censorship to punish someone for yelling FIRE! in a crowded theater? No... it's called responsibility. Using your rights responsibly is a must, not an option.

You seem to have some deep seated comprehension problems, but I won't touch on that right now.

Now, show me where it's a deomcrat bashing site. You're really getting out there with your wild accusations. Are you drunk, or just palin stupid? Yeah, I said it... deal with it..

As for personal insults, I believe you started them. If you can't deal with someone replying to YOUR insults, don't start it in the first place.

You have no concept of what "destroying the Constitution" is, do you? It's about as clear as your concept of free speech and 'satire'...

As for 'admission of my responsibility for MY product".. I've shown my site before, stating that it's mine. Do I need to put a disclaimer with every one of my sites? I own over 75 domains/websites, fyi.

Now, quit trying to defend someone who clearly is advocating another strike on our Country by terrorists. It is NOT satire. Please brush up on your reading comprehension skills, or PROVE that it is satire.

[Dogmudgeon]

5. I have wronged you. I am ashamed. I HAVE SINNED!

:rofl:

That was some good stuff. Almost as good as Bykofsky's essay. What grade did you say you were in?

I'll go through this a little at a time, to make sure you have plenty of reasons to call me more names.

First, here's some "deomcrat" bashing:

These Democrats, supposedly the Majority Party, have done nothing but cave in and/or concede on all of their issues since taking power in January 2007.

16 Senate Dems crossed the aisle, voting with republics (sic). Here are the traitors' names:

There's that "traitors" thing again. Is that really responsible of you? Calling elected representatives "traitors"?

If they ARE traitors, who gets to execute them?

Oh, right, that would be YOU.

I've seen you in 3 different threads trying to pass this off as satire, and guess what.. it hasn't flown, has it?

Tell me again how many people have signed up with your little Spam machine? (Yes, when you have to register to sign a petition, it's always a Spam machine. Always.)

Zero?

Yes, zero.

Big talk, little man.

I also don't care if my protests "fly" or not. I have often been the only one to argue a point. I don't need to stand with a crowd to prove my point or to feel big. I don't like being a part of a crowd; they are fools more often than I am. But that's just me.

Is it censorship to punish someone for yelling FIRE! in a crowded theater? No... it's called responsibility. Using your rights responsibly is a must, not an option.

Tell me, who decides what is "responsible"?

You do! Of course! You make the rules!

And you say you're a Democrat (or a "Deomcrat")?

The whole "responsible speech" thing is a Republican talking point. But don't take MY word for it -- ask around.

By the way, who compelled you to read Bykofsky's essay? You went looking for it, didn't you, sniffing for a turd in a toilet bowl like a hungry dog. You weren't in a theater, and Bykofsky wasn't yelling "fire". It is just thin-skinned scandal-seeking, like with most bigots who circulate petitions to censor writing and keep the Blacks and Hispanics and Asians out of "their" neighborhoods.

You seem to have some deep seated comprehension problems, but I won't touch on that right now.

Ah, you're a physician, too. That would explain the arrogance.

That, and Daddy's money, right?

And all that touching.

Are you drunk, or just palin stupid? Yeah, I said it... deal with it..

Just Palin stupid. At least I don't rip off Amy Poehler's punch lines ("Yeah, I said it... deal with it.."). What would Cleese say?

As for personal insults, I believe you started them. If you can't deal with someone replying to YOUR insults, don't start it in the first place.

Believe what you want; I insulted an anonymous dumbshit with a little spam machine who was trying to censor a piece of satiric writing. I figured that YOU had made the blunder of falling for a Freeper spam trap -- the website.

I was wrong. Well, mea fucking culpa. Sign your work from now on, like adults do, and that won't happen again.

You have no concept of what "destroying the Constitution" is, do you? It's about as clear as your concept of free speech and 'satire'...

Then perhaps you can enlighten me. This whole Censorship-Is-Freedom thing is new to me.

I'm not used to dealing with the intimidation of a writer being an expression of freedom. I've only ever seen Freepers and militant "Islamists" do it.

As for 'admission of my responsibility for MY product".. I've shown my site before, stating that it's mine. Do I need to put a disclaimer with every one of my sites? I own over 75 domains/websites, fyi.

Where's your responsibility? Or is "responsibility" just for other people -- people you don't agree with?

When you traffick in spam, character assassination, and censorship, and then "forget" to tell people that it's YOU, you have no cause to whine. (And whine. And whine some more.)

But, wow!, 75 domains/websites. I think I'm about to cum in my shorts. I'm sorry I ever messed with a dude like you. I bet you know kung-fu and are a member of the Transformers Drug-Free Warriors Club, too.

Look, if you want to be a Mighty Internet Warrior, at least learn how to run a spell check. There's a button for it marked "Check Spelling".

Now, quit trying to defend someone who clearly is advocating another strike on our Country by terrorists.

Well, I like to defend the underdog. Stu Bykofsky is being attacked by a short-tempered censor with too much free time and access to Daddy's (or maybe sweetie's) bankbook. The guy is obviously a big wheel who owns 75 websites, doesn't give a fuck about either literature or grammar, and thinks that he's entitled to determine what "responsible speech" is, so poor Stu needs a little help.

It is NOT satire. Please brush up on your reading comprehension skills, or PROVE that it is satire.

Keep repeating "It is NOT satire!" -- yeah, that will make it go away. And keep repeating "I am NOT a censor! Stop saying that!"

Why the fuck do I have to prove anything to a censor? Bykofsky will just have to take his lickin' like a man before winning another Pulitzer Prize.

And you can sell another t-shirt to your Mom's best friend's son.

Incidentally, I will be making it a point to contact Bykofsky's editor myself to congratulate him on Stu's latest triumph. And I will tell him all about the 75-website attack on Philly.com's servers by a thin-skinned, humorless little spam tycoon-wannabe.

--p!
Not Stu Bykofsky. Merely an acquaintance.

[Ghost in the Machine]

8. You just showed your idiocy & ignorance again, for all to see.

I won't even respond to much of your lunacy, as it seems to feed your overstuffed asinine ego.

"By the way, who compelled you to read Bykofsky's essay? You went looking for it, didn't you, sniffing for a turd in a toilet bowl like a hungry dog."

No, actually I found it on a post here, but you know that already, you've been posting your nonsense in all of them. Just saying it's satire doesn't make it true. Honestly, it doesn't.

Do you project much? I'd be willing to bet that *you're* the one who depends on your "access to Daddy's (or maybe sweetie's) bankbook". People like you make me sick. You run your mouth without knowing much about what you're talking about, that much is plain to see. You don't know a damned thing about who I am, or what I've got, do you? I own a restaurant, I own 4 homes on 12.5 acres of land, bought my parents their home on 3.5 acres of land, plus help take care of my sister and her kids because her husband just died a few months ago, plus run multiple online businesses. All this, while also being a single father for the last 11 years. Lesson #1. Don't run your mouth about things you know NOTHING about. It makes you look stupid.

"But, wow!, 75 domains/websites. I think I'm about to cum in my shorts." <~~~ all I can tell you is to put your mom's panties down and get away from her laundry basket, you'll be a better person for it.

"Not Stu Bykofsky. Merely an acquaintance." :rofl:

Do you suffer from delusions of grandeur much? Just seeing someone's picture in the paper beside their column doesn't make you an 'acquaintance'... just so you know, for future reference.

You *still* haven't proven that it's satire, so to me, you're still just babbling and drooling in your quest to "defend the underdog". When you can provide proof, I will gladly and humbly admit my mistake and misinterpretation of this article. I have no problem admitting that I'm wrong, if and when I learn that I was wrong. That's just the way I am. Always have been, always will be.

One more thing, when you try to attack someone with baseless bullshit allegations about their financial status or where they get their money from, it would help if YOU had a donor star next to your name. I've donated several stars to members here, so if you need one but can't afford it, just let me know, and I'll donate for you... just to show there's no hard feelings. I enjoy a good open, honest debate about anything, and as I said above, show me proof that the article in question was 'satire', and I'll admit my mistake and pull the petition.

PEACE!

[roody]

6. Where is this article printed?

[Ghost in the Machine]

10. where I found it was here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1554289&mesg_id=1554289

[Cha]

7. Not only "over the line" but

Fucking Stupid on so many levels. First of all..and I know this matters naught to a mentally challenged one like stu but there will be innocent people killed who never did a damn thing wrong except be in the wrong place when the bushits decide to ignore warnings about terrorist attacks(to prop up their image and start a war on Iraq). Secondly, this simpleton is in dreamland if he thinks the country is going to come together again over another bushit responsible terrorist attack. We're wise to their, accidently on purpose, terrorist attacks.

What I want to know is..how stupid do you have to be to even think this..much less write it in a fucking column?

Edit~ And who divided the country? Go to the source and eradicate that numnuts.

I read up thread that this is satire..so what?

[Dogmudgeon]

9. Hate the piece? Fine. Censor it? Then we have a problem.

I'm the one getting the heat for thinking it's satire. Guilty as charged.

And it IS satire. If you don't agree, okay. You may want to give it a second read when you've cooled off -- or not.

It's the ranting and screaming for censorship that I object to. This ... this petition to get Bykofsky fired. The dozen-or-so calls to deliver him up for trial on a charge of treason, of all things. And one of the treason-criers promotes marijuana -- he of all people ought to know better.

And then there's the exploitation of that anger for financial gain by one of our own. I already said my piece about that.

This is America. George Bush has already stabbed us in the heart. Must we finish his job for him by calling for censorship?

Again -- I do not criticize your tastes or point of view. I personally thought it was an outstanding piece of take-no-prisoners satire. Bykofsky has won more literary and journalistic awards than all of us at DU put together, including a Pulitzer. If you can, I believe you would understand if you read it later in a less heated mood, though that is up to you.

But given any perspective, I can and will make this one demand: NO CENSORSHIP. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.

--p!
Everbody Dare Call It Treason. Indiscriminantly. God help us.