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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 10:00 PM
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The GOP nominee for Vice President in 2008 will be...
Holy Joe Lieberman. The nominee will point to Joe and say that this is how far to the left the Dems have moved that their own 2000 nominee for VP is the GOP nominee for VP. They think such a move will attract independents and conservative dems.

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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 10:03 PM
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1. I doubt it
I really think Joe's career will be dead next go-round.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 10:03 PM
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2. Nope. Joe wouldn't be able to pull in crossover Dems. There's nothing to admire about him,
he wouldn't win them any important states, and they're just not that stupid. Pretty damn stupid, but not THAT stupid.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 10:07 PM
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3. Newt. n/t
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 10:09 PM
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4. Rumsfeld - on a Cheney-Rumsfeld ticket, but without an election.
Edited on Thu Aug-09-07 10:10 PM by higher class
Or maybe Cheney-Scalia
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 10:15 PM
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5. Lynne Cheney- think about it...
If Hillary is the Dem nominee (not that I support her, and not that I believe all this "inevitable" BS, but if she is), the Repubs will pick from their weak field, and then put forth a token women, to show that they, too are ready to have a woman on the ticket. Then Darth would have a surrogate to continue his administration. Either that or Rudy will be the VP, and have to dress in drag the whole campaign. ;-)

Or it could be Joe- it wouldn't surprise me. In fact I'd bet money that Joe will at least speak at the 08 Republican Convention, although there's no way he could pull off Zell's foaming-at-the-mouth comment "what are they going to fight with- spitballs?" zinger with even half as much panache...

Seriously, if Hillary is the Dem nominee, I think a woman VP on the Repub ticket is highly likely.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:46 PM
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20. You may be onto something. I can see the weasels now plotting to
put a female candidate on their ticket to "balance" the public perception, etc.

Dear god let it not be Lynne Cheney.

I could see a rationale for Kay Bailey Hutchison or Christine Todd Whitman.

Hutchison would be nothing much more than a place-holder, but Whitman could bring New Jersey into play, especially if Ghouliani is their prez nom.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 10:24 PM
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6. They are
pretty stupid over in freeper-ville but surly that are not stupid enough to think that LieBerputz on the ticket would draw anything but scorn and then lot's laughs from independents and conservative Dem's...
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 10:35 PM
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7. Jeb Bush, the 45th president of the United States of BushAmerica.
Edited on Thu Aug-09-07 10:59 PM by Benhurst
:puke:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 10:54 PM
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8. I think both parties have pretty much had enough of Joe Lieberman.
I think he's on the last bars of the final tune on the playlist.

Sadly for Lieberman, he's a man whose entire career can only now be redeemed if there's a violent miracle in Baghdad.

And no matter what General Petraeus has to say next month, Iraq is not going to be a gleaming U.S. victory.

The Republican veep short list might include Mike Huckabee, Haley Barbour, Rob Portman, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Tom Ridge, and Jim Talent. Huckabee is going to be upended, I think, tomorrow in the Ames straw poll by the Brownback organization, which appears to be outflanking Huck in Iowa. And while Talent lost to Claire in the Senate race, he's prime demographic Republican fodder for the veep spot. Ashcroft lost to a dead man in his Senate race and they appointed him Attorney General.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:04 PM
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9. Christine Todd Whitman shouldn't be ruled out.
We Democrats can certainly rule out voting for her.

But I mean as a Puke veep nom.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:43 PM
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19. Kay Bailey Hutchison
Gots to have a Texan on the ticket.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:18 PM
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10. Hard to tell who the Pukes are going to nominate for their top spot,
Edited on Thu Aug-09-07 11:35 PM by Old Crusoe
let alone the veep slot.

I'm at a loss, in large part becaus their entire presidential field is a line-up of yahoos, crooks, and flagrantly insane candidates. There's not a sentient human being among them, let alone a president.

For fun, though, they could stun the free world and run John Danforth/Rob Portman. That would be much harder to beat for us. A Missouri minister and an up-and-coming finance man from Ohio. Two battleground states, two appealing "moderates."

If Giuliani somehow holds on against my prediction that he can't and becomes their nominee, he could choose Christine Todd Whitman of New Jersey. If HClinton is our nominee, then it lures some Republican women back into the fold and gives the Pukes a New York/New Jersey frontline against our traditional majorities there.

I'm ruling McCain out at this point. It doesn't matter what he does. He's cooked.

Thompson? God, what a lunkhead. Fred, I mean, not Tommy. Tommy's a Neanderthal. Just the same, if Fred's their nominee, he could choose Huckabee and do the Tennessee-Arkansas axis strategy tht worked with Clinton/Gore in 1992. Or he could tap Duncan Hunter and try to strengthen the western block against a likely improved showing out there by our side.

I think the GOP short list might include Huckabee, Talent, Whitman, Portman, Barbour, and Hutchison.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:23 PM
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11. I vote Huckabee
he's a pretty likable guy, for a religious nut. He can spout the "compassionate conservative" thing to fool those whose daddy voted GOP but just can't stomach today's party.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:25 PM
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12. He's got some baggage, I think. His son is nuts--in a criminal way.
And he's a tax-raiser. There's a reason they don't much care for him. He actually polls 0% (behind Ron Paul's 2%) in some polls.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:32 PM
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15. Hi, wienerdoggie. That's interesting about Huckabee. I'm noticing
the same thing between him and Ron Paul and also that Brownback's people are outflanking him in Iowa in advance of this straw poll.

I'm wondering if we're going to see Huck leave the GOP race early next week?

I'm thinking Tommy Thompson is done for right now, even if he doesn't know it yet.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 12:07 AM
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24. Hey OC, yep, Huckabee needs to do well in the straw poll, or he's pretty
much doomed. I used to wonder why he didn't catch on, but looking around at RW blogs, they just don't think he's enough of a fiscal conservative or that he's strong on immigration, even with the Baptist-preacher thing going on. He's one of those guys that you listen to and you think, yeah, he's sane and reasonable, and then he says something that sends a little chill up the back of your neck. Brownback might beat him--I think they're neck and neck, trying to out-Christian/out-fetus each other. What an empty, issues-devoid race the GOP is running. T. Thompson--the "T" stands for Toast.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 12:18 AM
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25. LOL! I love your passage there where Crazy Sam and Huckabee are
trying to "out-Christian/out-fetus each other. "

Perfect.

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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:27 PM
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13. If it's Romney or Giuliani, expect a Southern governor
So possibly Huckabee. Maybe Gov. Haley Barbour of Mississippi or Gov. Bob Riley of Alabama (who's actually not a bad governor by any stretch - he'd probably make a better president than any of the Republicans currently running). Maybe Jeb Bush, although at this point a Bush on the ticket would probably hurt more than help. Gov. Mark Sanford's considered by some a rising star, but despite winning a second term, approval of him is mixed and he has a giant black mark in that was he was named by TIME magazine one of the nation's 5 worst governors.

So I'd imagine the top runners would be Huckabee, Barbour and Riley.

If Thompson's the nominee, then I expect the VP nomination to go to Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty.

I don't see any realistic prospects for VP among GOP senators or congressmen. Although former Trade Rep and former Congressman Rob Portman of Ohio could be picked.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:31 PM
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14. Nope. They'd use Jeb.
Joe would too extreme for even the most die-hard repukes.

Jeb would be just the ticket and they'd pimp him out in the "at least he's not like his brother" fashion. But in typical Bush fashion, after election, Jeb would find some way to off his boss, just like his dad tried to do with Reagan.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:37 PM
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16. Do you think people are in the mood for another round of Bushes, tho?
I'm thinking Dubya has pretty much stunk up the place these last 6 years or so.

It kind of cast a pall over a Jeb candidacy. I think he has some chance in 2012 but if our ticket does well and stays strong, the Republicans won't have an opening for a long, long time.

Which is pretty much how I like it.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:41 PM
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17. Nope but you forget that Americans generally have short attention spans.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:43 PM
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18. True. It may be up to the national Democratic Party to hire a good ad
crew to make sure the voters' memories stay refreshed!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:47 PM
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21. Harriet Miers
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:49 PM
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22. LOL!
And to think the little fool intended to put her on the Supreme Court.

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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:56 PM
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23. Funny thing about traitors
They are most despised by those into whose arms they have run.

The Republicans trust him less than we do.

Look for a right-wing nut case to run with a kindred spirit.

Maybe Thompson-Brownback with Sean Hannity as Secretary of Hate.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 12:26 PM
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26. The Republicans know they are not the favored party to win the White House
in 2008.

It could be that they will run a ticket with a veep nom who is being groomed for their 2012 ticket at the top slot.

That's why I think Rob Portman will be on the GOP nominee's short list. If they keep veering toward right wing kooks -- I mean really far right rightwing kooks -- they're going to drive the "moderates" away even more than they already have been. Independents are not going to be attracted to kooks. McCain had been their darling in 2000 and a bit beyond, but since campaigning for Dubya, that luster has worn off.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 12:34 PM
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27. Cheney will be Mitt's handler(VP). Mitt will cut a deal with the old guard to be the new guard. n/t
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