Ghouliani = B*sh on steroids: "Freedom is about Authority"

[npincus]

http://www.csindy.com/csindy/2007-08-09/news2.html

America had better get a clue about this nutjob... the fact that he's polling competitive w/Dems is very scary.



"Freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."

If Americans west of the Hudson River know anything about Giuliani beyond 9/11 heroism, it's that he "cleaned up New York," which he genuinely did. New York feels, and is, significantly safer since Giuliani's reign.

What New Yorkers know is that cleanup came at a cost: Times Square became Disneyland. Homeless were arrested and children taken from parents. Jaywalkers were strip-searched. The list is long.

Giuliani's approach to crime, which lowered the rate by 60 percent, is known as the "broken window" concept: One broken window in a building leads to more. So, if a neighborhood is willing to tolerate graffiti, jaywalking, beer drinking on stoops, turnstile jumpers, etc., then murder, crack dealing, robbery and other more serious crimes will ensue. But what followed was an extreme zero-tolerance policy, resulting in almost 70,000 people suing the city for police abuses.

During Giuliani's term, police wore T-shirts with intimidating statements, such as the Hemingway quote, "There is no hunting like the hunting of man."

[Xipe Totec]

1. Of course, he speaks from personal experience

Rudy knows all about ceding to authority.

[alfredo]

2. We need to frame him as a Cheney/bush type of authoritarian.

[Bread and Circus]

3. The "ghouliani" cleaned up NYC meme is a lie...

Actually, there were other social/economic forces at play as well as changes in police tactics that came into play even before he got into office. The fall in crime rate was started before he got in there. As usual, he didn't mind taking more than his fair share of credit.

[piedmont]

4. .

self delete. see below.

[piedmont]

5. So, Freedom is Slavery.

Orwell saw you coming, Ghouley.

[Buzz Clik]

6. Did this motherfucker actually say that? Seriously?

True conservatives and even marginal ones must be shitting their pants to hear that.

This country is about LESS government not more.

[C_U_L8R]

7. ummmmmmmm. NO !

fuck no Rudy. FUCK NO.
You are so very terribly misguided and wrong.
You have NO CLUE what freedom is.

[bowens43]

8. He's psychotic.

The stresses of 911 turned his brain into jello. He's a raving lunatic.

[npincus]

9. I'm quite sure needs to be taken VERY seriously

is the only Repub who can probably beat us. Which is why I subscribe to the "whatever it takes" strategy to make him unpalatable to the electorate.. which is why the stories of his wife and multiple infidelites serve a political purpose, a means to an end. Giuliani would be at least as bad as B*sh (though he's not foolish enough to have invaded Iraq).

[Sanctified]

10. Any politician who believes the role of Government is to rule the people should be put down.

Sorry but by his definition of freedom people in prison must be the freest motherfuckers on earth.