Florida again. Case of woman covered with "filth and maggots" not "willful neglect".

[madfloridian]

This sort of lets DCF off the hook. Authorities only visited the home 44 times after complaints. Can't expect too much...right?

Not willful neglect

LOXAHATCHEE - State and local authorities visited an unlicensed South Florida adult group home numerous times before discovering a 66-year-old woman covered in filth and maggots in May, a newspaper reported Sunday.

....""We couldn't show there was willful neglect," Assistant State Attorney Michael Rachel said.

The Palm Beach County Sheriff's deputies responded to the home 44 times for a variety of calls in the six months before it was closed on May 24, but did not note unsatisfactory conditions, The Palm Beach Post reported Sunday.

"It doesn't mean that at that particular moment the deputies encountered anything that would have been a violation because we are the ones that did uncover what was going on," said Paul Miller, a sheriff's office spokesman.

A Department of Children & Families investigator also found no signs of neglect in a visit a few weeks before the elderly woman was discovered. "I feel the investigator did his job," Alan Abramowitz, acting DCF administrator in Palm Beach County, told The Associated Press. "When these places go down, it can go bad really quickly."

Governor Crist appointed a Democrat, Bob Butterworth, to head the DCF. But Butterworth is on board with all the privatization, thus oversight is lacking.

This is unbelievable that they are excusing this.

[Bonobo]

1. Well as long as it's not "willful"!

[bullimiami]

2. the alternative would reflect badly on their 'oversight' and competence

at licensing and supervising.

so it must have happened 'really quickly'

[Solly Mack]

3. Google Bob Butterworth and Florida 2000

just saying...

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/09/election.president/index.html
The other members of the panel, Secretary of State Katherine Harris and state elections director Clay Roberts, are also Republicans. But the state's top Democratic official, Attorney General Bob Butterworth, expressed confidence that the recount will be fair.

"All of us recognize the importance that every vote is correctly counted," Butterworth said. "I can also assure the rest of the nation that there's no way Governor Jeb Bush or Secretary of State Harris would certify election results ... if they had any doubt at all that the election was not in perfect order."

[noonwitch]

4. Adult protective services is legally complicated

Because adults have free will. No matter who runs it and what the situations are, it is complicated by the fact that legal adults can live in their own filth, as long as they don't force anyone else to live in it with them.

I would place the blame more on the woman's family than anyone else. People need to look out for the elderly in their families.

[madfloridian]

5. They went to the home 44 times...and did not see her?

Where in the article does it mention her family?

Why did the DCF and deputies miss it all those times. Who was calling? 44 times?

[madfloridian]

6. No matter what is posted here at DU anymore....

someone is waiting to pounce on it with talking points from the right wing.

Some people work, they don't get paid for taking care of elderly parents. As badly as they may want to do....some can not afford it. And they took the provision out of the bankruptcy bill that would have saved the homes of caregivers.

[bobthedrummer]

8. Yep-that's information warfare, 24/7 and DU has always been a battlefield

[undergroundpanther]

17. It truly is a war on the weak Mad floridan

Nazis rule this nation and they want a lot of us dead.
Nazis began with killing the disabled, old and mentally ill first.By "common design" , later it went to more direct methods like pulling plugs and injections of poisons..
Nazis did this even before they went after dissidents and jews.

The ideologies that became the Nazi are an AMERICAN invention.
Hitler liked what the eugenicists in Connecticut were doing over here and he modeled his nazi nation on it.


It is sad how we tolerate plausible deni-ability even when it's obvious this kind of abuse is tolerated excused and is done to vulnerable populations by deliberate design.
http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/

[Tsiyu]

22. This should be its own thread if it isn't already

the more I learn the more disgusted I become at those twisted webs all around.

Why do some people insist on being the "only" or the "best?" Why do some believe they deserve everything, and most are beneath them and deserve nothing?

That myth that pasty white people are the moral epitome of mankind is quenched once one takes a cursory glance through history... yet so many pasty whites insist they are the civilized folks.

Civilized folks do not do the horrible things exposed in your post.

[bobthedrummer]

23. Thank you undergroundpanther for excerpting Edwin Black's timely work

and yes, it is a war of many dimensions. Kick.

[bobthedrummer]

24. More background on some possible common designers focusing on Madison, WI

from an interesting parent thread here's a post from 7-28-2007 that brings together Harry F. Harlow, Abraham Maslow, Frank Olson, Louis Jolyon West and several others with Wisconsin connections that go beyond "coincidence".

"Wisconsin and some black operations"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=186x21683#21699

[bobthedrummer]

7. The Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunals established the legal term "common design"

after being installed BFEE et.al. refused to recognize the Nuremberg findings.

Florida's DCF is part of a common design that is behind reports like this, so is the federal model for welfare reform, Tommy Thompson's eugenicist decree (Wisconsin Works!/W2) adopted by many states and even foreign nations.

There's a common design to all this, madfloridian, and those of us that have been pointing to areas to look are being reinforced by others.

This is the equivalent of the life unworthy of life meme of the Nordic/Anglo-Saxon race biologists from our past that inspired the Third Reich allied with the corporate welfare fascists.

[undergroundpanther]

9. Yep

Nazis again. Goddamn eugenics and fucking social darwinism lives in America. America's concentration camps are not like there were in Germany. Old Nazis learned new tricks..How to hide their crimes in layers of beau racy and to do their final plan in plain sight. We have no Auswich's or Belsens' to point at so is it happening here? Hell yes...The death is right here,Scattered through millions of private homes , in thousands of social institutions. the death camps are embedded so they are not so obvious until a case like this comes out.The Death camps are now in the homes of overworked cash strapped families, they are in hospitals, in orphanages,in hospice care, mental hospitals,jails, the streets where the homeless die, and the final solution it is written into laws,(futility of life laws)and it is done by selective budget cuts to vital services to make deaths occur more often.(think Katrina) This neglect and so called un-willful games creates a convenient plausible deni-ability for the criminal Nazis higher up the "food chain" who WANT this to happen but never SAY so in the open..

This kind of situation is the way for Nazis to deny the mis use of public welfare and a way for them to hide Nazi willfulness to kill by claiming neglect ,by deliberate cutting and omissions of funds and ignoring of needs of the most vulnerable citizens.IT is a war on the weak...

I hope all the believers in the Nazi ideologies will DIE along with their belief system...I HATE them.I HATE ALL NAZIS.They all need to be sent to their deaths lest they slowly kill everyone they don't like for their sickening superman fantasies and social engineering nightmares..and they exploit plausible deni ability to get away with an invisible genocide on American soil..

[bobthedrummer]

11. Some more examples of common design from other regions

from sybylla's active Wisconsin Forum thread-why are all these "safeguards" failing-if not by design?

BREAKING: Child abduction,abuse possible homicide in Portage
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=186x21098

[undergroundpanther]

14. You bet your ASS it is by design

I wish MORE people Would GET this!!

The Death camps are in PLAIN SIGHT, people!! It is Written into the organizations rules, written into the state and fed laws,enforced by cut budgets,and under staffing,and the wholesale corporate and financial abuse of millions of American workers.These multiple factors that seem at first glance disconnected to each other are what helps the Camps that look like hospices or orphanages kill people.

Death is ENCOURAGED everywhere people who need help GO to get help. Every place the vulnerable, disabled ,mentally ill or old people go for assistance are the places of danger.Mandated by these draconian budget cuts and insane "policies" Together it is designed to undermine the very functioning of the services these places are supposed to provide to people...These are the American Death camps.And are not suspected as death camps if they are dressed up as "angels of mercy or charity"or social services..
But That is what they ARE.

[Karenina]

16. Tell it like it is, UP!

You ALWAYS do. :hug::loveya::hug:

[undergroundpanther]

18. Once you get hurt by mad scientists "for your own good"

In one of the top rated private mental hospitals in the state, It becomes something you cannot deny once you have been there when you see it again and again and again. THe Design of it becomes very clear,and the deliberateness unavoidable.
This is why I became a mental health survivor advocate.

I hate fucking nazis and I love fucking them over..Bullies and nazis are this panthers prey and I love taking them down rubbing their faces in their own deliberate incompetence and cruelty and making them bleed . I do it for the weaker ones, I do it because my conscience will not let me stand by,and I will do what it takes to stop a bully even if I have to skewer the dead nazi fuckers head on a pike and walk it down main street to make my point clear how I feel about this kind of shit.

I am no pacifist. I am a caring person to those who care but to psychopaths I match their wickedness and destroy them with it.

I don't care about the 'worth' of a nazi,a tyrant,an authoritarian fuck face,a torturers or psychopaths life.The fact that they are that way has devalued them to the status of un trust-able shit in my eyes.The psychopath does not reform himself.He thinks he is perfect.

I hate all nazis and bullies.They are toxins to the mental and physical health,of people and nations,they are destroyers of peace,democracy ,love and community compassion.They destroy the very things that makes people beautiful and I will not tolerate that.

I want to rip the heart out of all these fucking abusive asshole authoritarians with my claws so they can harm no more...My hate goes to the hateful. The targeted personality type I hate is very clear.
http://www.bullyonline.org/

Like I said bullies are prey and I treat them as the scum they ARE. To destroy a nazi one does not have to torture the fucker at all. Because ALL Torture is wrong!

But a swift death is not wrong if it is the only way to stop the abuse. If a Nazi was allowed to live and if the nazi uses that trust and kills more people, Than it is moral to kill the nazi and immoral to let him live..

You see psychopaths think they are superior to people who care and because of that 'entitlement' attitude they have, they see NO need for a CONSCIENCE and choose to do their abusive things themselves. Certain types of personalties make a choice to harm and they don't care that it harms others.

Bullies have no internal limits on their behavior or choices they don't CARE who gets hurt when they want what they want and they'll destroy everything to get it. Leaving many dead bodies and broken lives in their wake.

So Nazis, bullies and other toxic personalties socialized or not so socialized all need an outside force(other people) to stop them.A person or people that are as ruthless,clever,determined and clearly directed by compassion and humane ethics and who are not afraid to be as lethal to Nazis as Nazis are to other people,this is what is required of an ethical soul if it is important to force the Nazi to cease doing the vicious cruel shit they do to people.
And frankly it is VERY important to NOT tolerate intolerable people..

[youngdem]

10. No, that's "compassionate conservatism"

[WinkyDink]

12. Did Dr. Frist diagnose her?

[BlooInBloo]

13. "I don't think anyone could've anticipated the maggots"....

Q: "What was the name of the Home Daily Briefing?"

A: "Maggots Will Collect On Neglected Patients".


:rofl: sigh. Disgusting how people treat each other, at all levels.

[undergroundpanther]

15. If someone gets bedsores or wounds

That don't heal they go necrotic, than flies lay eggs there and bingo maggots Or if they are not cleaned from soiling themselves, maggots will seek to breed there too.
And this kind of filth is not an overnight problem.

It's a NAZI problem.
A nation rots from the head down.

[madfloridian]

19. More in another article...heartbreaking.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/palmbeach/sfl-81pbccourt,0,276305.story

"WEST PALM BEACH -- - A 41-year-old Riviera Beach woman was sentenced to 62 days in jail followed by five years of probation on Wednesday after pleading guilty to neglecting a disabled person and operating an unlicensed assisted living facility on a residential street in Loxahatchee.

When Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office investigators in May went to a home rented by Rosy Younger, they found a 66-year-old woman in a bed covered with flies, maggots and feces, Assistant Palm Beach County State Attorney Mike Rachel told Circuit Judge Lucy Chernow Brown. Fecal matter also was found on nearby curtains.

The woman had been left to change her own colostomy bag and had contracted an infection, according to Rachel."

[madfloridian]

20. More horrors about that place....very hard to read this.

But I am indignant they said this was not willful neglect. This is an unbelievable stain on Florida's reputation.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/west/epaper/2007/08/05/m1a_LoxHome_0805.html

I don't even want to post some of it here.

To anyone who defends this in any way, may you have to live with your selfishness.

[bobthedrummer]

21. It's not just Florida, there is a pattern and more people are speaking out despite the corruption

and the horror within it-kick.

[madfloridian]

25. Just did a news serach update....nothing since this date, August 6

At least nothing I can find. Guess it's considered fixed.

[bobthedrummer]

26. Another report from Lake County-a registered sex offender was staying in a home

with a 16 year old mentally disabled girl (another example of the failed safeguards-how can this happen over and over and over all over the nation?)

from Central Florida 13 News

"Man Allegedly Sexually Assaulted Mentally Disabled Girl" 8-10-2007
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2007/8/10/sexual_assault_on_mentally_disabled_girl.html

Lake County, Florida is part of the horrifying Sisk, Clerc, Clark, Farlin alternative family case from Portage, Wisconsin
"The screaming of children in quiet Portage, Wisconsin" (6-22-2007)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1161061

Fair use cited on all links

[bobthedrummer]

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