Can someone bring up this article from rawstory:

[The Backlash Cometh]

"NSA, DoD, FBI seek hackers as allies"

For some reason, my computer keeps stalling each time I click on the link.

[DemReadingDU]

1. error: this page cannot be displayed

but I can read other other articles

:eyes:

[seemslikeadream]

2. uh

:shrug:

[terip64]

3. I get an error too.

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /.http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Hackers_sought_as_allies_in_war_on__08062007.html on this server.

[terip64]

5. it worked when i clicked on the link in my last post though

:shrug:
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Hackers_sought_as_allies_in_war_on__08062007.html

[DemReadingDU]

8. I can read your link

but can't read it at the rawstory site

:eyes:

[seemslikeadream]

4. Is this the article you're looking for?

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Hackers_sought_as_allies_in_war_on__08062007.html
Hackers sought as allies in war on terrorism and cyber crime
Published: Monday August 6, 2007








US federal agents are reaching out to computer hackers for help fighting crime and terrorism as a tug-of-war between privacy and public safety continues on the Internet.

The National Security Agency (NSA), the Department of Defense and the FBI were among the spy, military and police agencies represented at DefCon, an international gathering of hackers in Las Vegas.

Hackers and computer security professionals made up the bulk of the more than 6,000 people that took part in the three-day conference which ended Sunday, according to founder Jeff "Dark Tangent" Moss.

Games, contests and seminars at DefCon are devoted to breaching computers, Internet websites, software programs and real-world locks.

Throughout the event money is raised for the Electronic Freedom Foundation, a non-profit legal group that defends online rights and privacy cherished by hackers.

Lawyers from the foundation are spearheading litigation accusing the NSA of illegally snooping on e-mail and telephone communications.

NSA vulnerability analysis chief Tony Sager gave a talk at DefCon, saying the agency was increasingly sharing information with the public in the hope computer wizards wherever they may be become allies in cyber security.

"I'm not sure I can convince them to trust me," Sager told AFP.

"I think we are part of a larger community. In the old days it was about what we found was really precious, because what we had was all there was. Now, it's less important what we find and more important what everybody finds."

It takes the brightest technical minds to fight new-age crime and terrorism, and those people shun government paychecks for "big bucks" in private sector jobs, according to federal agents at DefCon.

While hackers at DefCon socialized warmly with federal agents, two of whom got married on stage during an awards ceremony Sunday, many said online privacy trumps public safety worries.

"The balance of privacy and public safety swung way out of whack with people on the Internet being so trackable," said hacker Len Sassaman, part of a team at K.U. Leuven University in Belgium building an anonymous e-mail system.

"We are trying to swing it back. I don't think police should be able to hit a button and listen to whoever they select; they should have to do some good old boots-on-the-ground work."

Hacker Roger Dingledine is working on an "anonymity network" called Tor that bounces Internet traffic off "about a thousand" computer servers to thwart tracking who is doing what online.

"I believe the need for privacy is fundamental to a working democracy," Sassaman said.

"I err on the side of protecting the hundreds of thousands of people up to nothing bad instead of the few people up to no good."

Federal agents at DefCon said their technology "wish list" includes being able to identify who is responsible for what on the Internet.

"The NSA spent decades trying to do things themselves and that didn't work," Dingledine said. "I'm happy they realize other people can help. I think they know better than to show up and say 'Trust us, we're the NSA'."

Sager said he is not sure how to resolve the conflict between public safety and Internet privacy.

"People don't come to the NSA because they want to fly black helicopters and deny people their liberties," Sager said.

"We happen to be in a time that is very volatile -- the whole issue around the war on terrorism and the loss of personal information. I'm not sure there is a logical path right now that will satisfy the majority of the population."

[seemslikeadream]

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[Hydra]

9. I was there in the beginning

right after 9/11, lots of hackers wanted to help shut Al-Qaeda down. I was trying to learn at the time(unfortunately, I suck at it), and the NSA amde it clear that they were more interested in finding US than Bin Laden.

Now they want help? I think the same policy is in play- they want to destroy TOR and other proxy and encryption systems so free communication is a thing of the past.

[The Backlash Cometh]

10. Thank you!

I'm sure that's the one.

[Ian David]

6. They may have retracted the story. That happens on Raw Story, sometimes.

Though admittedly, not as (laughably) frequently as it used to.