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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 01:33 PM
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The GOP now has a Loyalty Committee
State GOP hopes loyalty committee will stop defectors
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July 31, 2007

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Topeka — Burned by several high-profile party switchers, the Kansas Republican Party has formed a loyalty committee to make sure Republican officials toe the GOP line.

Under a change made to the state Republican Party’s constitution, officials who hold party positions could be stripped of their party titles if they are found to be helping a Democrat get elected.

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Morgan said if a Republican Party official decides he or she cannot help a fellow Republican, then the proper course of action should be to remain quiet.

“If you can’t stomach a Republican in the election, then you can sit on your hands,” he said. “You can’t go out there and support the opposition.”


more at:
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/jul/31/state_gop_hopes_loyalty_committee_will_stop_defect/
via:
http://election2008.teambio.org/2007/08/06/the-gop-now-has-a-loyalty-committee/
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 01:36 PM
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1. that's the DU line, too... n/t
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 01:45 PM
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3. True. But we are free to go out and be vocal anywhere else however we like.
Just not in this room.

And that would equate them saying Repubs can't speak out against others or support Dems in a Repub Party meeting. But they are saying they can't do it anywhere, ever.

Hopefully that will make more Repubs leave the party.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 02:04 PM
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9. repeat
Edited on Mon Aug-06-07 02:05 PM by themartyred
repeat

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 02:04 PM
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10. True.
I just find it sad that you can't discuss on here why you would want another candidate (I) or (R) over someone that says they're a (D) just because of the initial, and the instances would be very rare and if someone did voice that opinion and had a plausible reason behind their support of the other candidate then who should stifle their speech over one situation that they can clearly argue?

I could understand if off-party support was repeated more than once by the same person and they backed that stance up with anti-feminine, anti-gay, anti-minority, pro-war grumblings, but I feel like the shark was jumped a little and no one wants to sit and think about what it means to have freedom of speech - as this is a public forum (you don't have to pay to make comments) in all rationale purposes. Yes, it's owned and ran by certain people, however, it's a website that prides itself on Democratic values of protecting the Constitution, and the internet still remains a publicly accessible service. But, the headline made me think of the recent controversy on here and although I would think long and hard about ever voting for anyone other than a Democrat, recent happenings in DC have made me question who some of these people are really representing!

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 01:57 PM
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6. As well it ought to be
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 02:09 PM
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12. no. that's the common defense from those who are challenged to support the party
If I ask you to support the party I'll make my argument and expect you to make the decision on your own. The ridiculous thing about your condemnation of those at DU is that no one here has any means at all to enforce compliance with any 'loyalty oath.' Not so with the republican party.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 02:16 PM
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14. you take my comment far beyond it's intended statement
Edited on Mon Aug-06-07 02:23 PM by themartyred
I am just basing it upon the crooks in DC claiming to be Dems, voting for everything the idiot in the oval office wants, and then, if you want to back someone who's running against one of the arse-kissing shrub apologists on the Independent ticket b/c they feel their chances are better - you're thought to be against Democratic values - and sorry, I don't think of this website as being aligned with the Democratic Party Leadership in the sense that you have to swear allegiance to only them or you're not welcome to discuss why you believe another candidate would be much better for our values - they don't get much more liberal than me - I've smoked pot, I'm queer, I don't fit in at churches b/c of that, I'm for a woman's right to decide what she wants to do with her body, I cannot believe someone so arrogant and idiotic can be in the white house - and yet, if say Hillary was the candidate and I wanted Bloomberg (not saying I would want him, just a hypothetical) then I couldn't speak of wanting him... that's just odd.
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CPschem Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 01:37 PM
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2. uhh... this is satire, right?
please be satire.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 01:47 PM
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4. The Nazi's used to have loyalty oaths, too.
Looks like the Republican Party is institutionalizing their commitment to Party before country.

Perhaps a better course of action, rather than remaining quiet, is to quit.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 01:50 PM
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5. Well they certainly need one
And soon they'll have to pay people just to vote republican
(oh wait....)
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 01:59 PM
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7. do they wear arm bands and carry a poster of their glorious leader as well?
that is some dayam creepy stuff.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 02:02 PM
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8. Bring on a modern day version of HUAC. You remember that don'tyou?
In case you were born after HUAC's demise, it was the House UnAmerican Activities Committee, tasked with driving communists out of the USA. I remember them best for their drive to rid Hollywood of communist actors, writers, directors, etc and they did so with a blacklist. The studios were craven and wouldn't hire anyone on the blacklist (some writers got scriptwriting work under fake names).

It was a scary time...
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 02:08 PM
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11. I thought they were already swearing their undying soul
for Bush ... just like a Repuke ... paying for something with money they don't have ...
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pwb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 02:12 PM
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13. Is it loyalty or fear?
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 02:17 PM
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15. Es leben die Republikaner!!
You vill enchoy ziss party ass lonk ass you do exZAKTly ass you are toldt!

(With apoligies to my wife, who is German, and
definitely does NOT talk like Kolonel Klink).
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 02:22 PM
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16. Hmmmmm. Sounds familiar. German Army Oath:
I swear by God this holy oath, that I will render unconditional obedience to Adolf Hitler, Fuhrer of the German Reich and People, Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, and will be ready as a brave soldier to risk my life at any time for this oath.

German Army Oath


http://www.saskschools.ca/curr_content/history20/unit2/sec2_08.html
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 04:18 PM
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17. 1934-1945 version:
Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes, Adolf Hitler, dem Oberbefehlshaber der Wehrmacht, unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen.

(Accurately translated above--it went through several versions. This
was the final one).
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 04:20 PM
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18. They are demanding solidarity among the ranks.
Or they are creating fascist rules to be followed to the letter. Take your pick.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 04:21 PM
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19. The Nazis have finally totally taken over the old GOP
Surge Heil!
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