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Aptastik Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:21 PM
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Question for those with knowledge of the FISA legislation
Is there anything in the bill that would broaden surveillance of internet data transfers due to the popularity of internet phone programs as Skype and others?

Any information on this would be appreciated.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:31 PM
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1. This latest empowerment was all about VOIP. They can do whatever
AGAG says they can.

Thank god we have Gonzo watching out for us.


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 06:36 PM
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2. General Discussion
Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject The FISA Fix/Mess- Combatting the Lies, Misinfo & Dysinformation. ACLU Fact Sheet
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1511757#1511757
1511757, The FISA Fix/Mess- Combatting the Lies, Misinfo & Dysinformation. ACLU Fact Sheet
Posted by chill_wind on Sat Aug-04-07 11:25 AM

The Myths Bush has been selling to America, to the Media- myths our Congress in turn is trying to sell to us. There are factual resources here. (Please keep passing them on!)



MYTH: The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act needs to be modernized.

FACT: The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act has been updated more than 50 times since being enacted in the '70s. It was updated as recently as last year.


MYTH: We need warrants to wiretap foreigners abroad.

FACT: Current law allows foreign-to-foreign communications to be intercepted without a warrant. What this proposal is really about is the right to wiretap Americans - without a warrant - who are speaking with people overseas.

MYTH: FISA has not kept up with new technology.

FACT: There is absolutely no new technology that evades FISA. Even the man responsible for prepping and filing all FISA applications, James Baker, head of the Justice Department's Office of Intelligence Policy and Review, has said that, "There's no type of collection that's prohibited by the statute." FISA was modernized by the Patriot Act, by Intelligence Reform legislation and by the re-authorization of the Patriot Act - indeed has been updated 50 times since it was enacted in 1978.

MYTH: Congress knows the facts about the NSA warrantless spying program.

FACT: The Senate Judiciary Committee asked for the legal rationale for the program nine times before issuing subpoenas, and still hasn't received an answer due to consistent stonewalling by the administration and the Department of Justice. The American public and their elected senators and representatives do not yet know the full extent of the warrantless wiretapping program and the extent to which FISA has been violated. So why would Congress grant additional power to this administration?

MYTH: We need this now.

FACT: This is not the time to hand even more power to an administration that has denied the legislative branch's constitutionally mandated oversight role and refused to hold the attorney general accountable for a series of contradictory statements. The only thing more outrageous than the administration's call for even more unfettered power is a Congress that would consider giving it.



MORE:
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/nsaspying/31144res20070731.html

(bold-face mine)





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