Do you feel the Democratic candidate has already been coronated?

[GreenPartyVoter]

I recall in '04 a lot of people felt that Kerry had been given a lock on the nomination. I realize it is much earlier in this run-up, but do you feel that a candidate has been crowned, and if so please state who.

[porphyrian]

1. The media and the republicunts have been framing Senator Clinton as our candidate for years now.

For that reason alone, I don't trust her.

[Omphaloskepsis]

2. I think it is down to two... Clinton vs. Obama. The media has decided on them.

I doubt either will win the presidential election. So we are fucked.

[Frank Cannon]

6. The media has been leading us down a garden path for years

When the most praise I hear for a Democratic candidate on TV comes from someone like O'Reilly or Hannity, I realize I am being "worked". I can't believe more people aren't hip to what's obviously going on.

[GreenPartyVoter]

51. Ain't that the truth!

[Flabbergasted]

33. Edwards has a much more realistic chance then the "nat. polls" indicate "Top three tie, Iowa"

Three Top Democrats Share Lead In Iowa Poll
Clinton, Obama, Edwards Are Tied

By Jon Cohen and Dan Balz
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, August 3, 2007; Page A01

Less than six months before Iowa voters open the 2008 presidential nomination battles, the Democratic contest in the Hawkeye State is a deadlock, with Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards in a virtual tie for first place, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

While Clinton has a clear and consistent lead over Obama in national polls, with Edwards generally running a distant third, the contours of the campaign in Iowa appear far different. Edwards's strong base of support, built on the foundations of his second-place finish in the state's precinct caucuses in 2004, has turned Iowa into the most competitive early state for the Democratic field.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/02/AR2007080202621.html

[saltpoint]

3. No. The polls are volatile. They gurgle and settle and gurgle again.

Things won't begin to turn serious until fall.

By Hallowe'en, let's see who's left, who may jump in, and which issues begin to hold primacy in voters' heads.

I think Tommy Thompson is out inside 2 weeks. I think Gore is in come October. I think Biden's numbers rise steadily. I think Giuliani's numbers drop steadily. I think McCain was cooked 6 months ago, if not earlier.

[acmavm]

4. The election is a year and three months away. No one knows who will

win the primaries. I can tell you now from listening to people here in good old Nebraska, if they are any indication of how the 'Heartland' feels, it sure as hell won't be Clinton or Obama.

[Evergreen Emerald]

5. Kerry was not on the radar last election

It was only after the media denegrated Dean that Kerry came up on the polls. He was not consistently leading.

[dkofos]

7. Absolutely it's a done deal. This same shit happens every election

cycle. And when we don't vote for their lackey, they will crucify whoever we choose.

Just ask Howard Dean!!

[Babsbrain]

8. Hillary hurt herself badly at DailyKos

She said America was much safer today from terrorist attacks. It is interesting that a freeper posted that Hillary got a lot of respect at DailyKos when the opposite was true. Obviously a planted post.

[durrrty libby]

17. Maybe you are the obvious plant

[GreenPartyVoter]

19. If I was an obvious plant, I would be lavender.

:P

[Forkboy]

42. That's pretty much the only defense you'll see from a Hillary supporter these days.

I don't agree with you...you're a plant.It's a fucking badge of honor,trust me. :)

[Babsbrain]

23. Ahhhh. and maybe you are

See we just don't know whom to trust anymore

[GreenPartyVoter]

24. How can you not trust/love lavender? :^D

[walldude]

47. Trust no one....

:scared:

[salin]

9. Classic moment from 04 primaries...

Kerry, mic still on, walks away after answering questions to the press muttering "Dean, Dean, Dean, Dean, Dean..." his frustration at the almost obsessive focus on Dean and his campaign the press had.

Another moment from that campaign... needing a quick infusion of funds (before the primaries) Kerry has to loan his campaign money (or something along those lines.)

Your recall per Kerry is off... people didn't have the impression that Kerry had it locked up until after the Iowa and NH primaries.

[GreenPartyVoter]

12. Yes, you are right, it was after the primaries had started.

[Individualist]

10. Voters should realize what's going on

when the propaganda spewing MSM and DLC promote a candidate.

[Lil Missy]

11. In the last election, Dean was the coronated one up until the actual votes came in.

[PassingFair]

44. Dean wasn't "coronated".

The PEOPLE were supporting Dean.

The PEOPLE were sending money to Dean.

The PARTY shot him down.

[MonkeyFunk]

48. how?

he did poorly in Iowa. how did the party cause that?

[PassingFair]

50. He got Vilsacked.

It will work in the opposite manner this year
for Ms. Clinton.

[nevergiveup]

13. It is Hillary's to lose

but Obama is going to give her fits until the end. In my opinion Obama is the future of the Democratic party but I am not sure the Democratic party is ready for Obama. The old timers think that Hillary has earned the nomination and shaking them from this mind-set will be difficult if not impossible. I also would not totally rule out Edwards. Several months ago I predicted an Edwards/Obama ticket. It is still not totally out of the question but must admit that at this juncture it seems like a daunting task.

[GreenPartyVoter]

35. I feel very similarly to you

[Junkdrawer]

14. The script has been written: Hillary/Obama vs. Random Bush Doctrine Supporter...

"And while the Democrats were to be commended for breaking gender and racial barriers, and while the electorate clearly does not support the GOP's policies, the electorate was clearly not ready for a woman or racial minority this time."

And here's where the REAL genius comes in.... Hillary/Obama can lead in the polls, hell, they can lead the exit polls, and the post-Diebold line will be:

"In this 'Politically Correct' culture, respondents were reluctant to tell us how they ACTUALLY voted."

[HCE SuiGeneris]

15. Sure is a lot of propaganda

espousing the public's supposed infatuation with... and for, Hillary.

[Desertrose]

16. I think its always been Hillary....

they just had to bide their time a bit & let the repubs finish out their 8 year reign...I mean term.


Can't say I'm thrilled...sorry...won't vote for Hillary.

[book_worm]

18. Nope I think its still wide open but I think it will be one of these three:

Clinton, Edwards or Obama. I'm one of those who don't think Gore is going to run.

[rucky]

20. The media is setting Hillary up.

After Iowa, they will turn on her badly.

[Skidmore]

21. I think they are trying to, and the DLC or Third Way Cult will not get my vote.

And, on edit, HILLARY WILL NOT GET MY VOTE. period. end of subject.

[HughMoran]

22. I'm not sure - Dems sure got the jitters WRT Dean last time...

Hillary's "electability" issues may come into play at some point - let's wait and see.

[undeterred]

25. I've annointed Gore/Feingold

I don't hate Hillary, but I don't really want to walk very far for her.

[GreenPartyVoter]

26. What if it is Gore/Obama or Gore/ Edwards?

[undeterred]

28. S'ok too. I like them both.

There is no one more passionate about the law and the Constitution that Russ Feingold. I know Obama and Edwards are lawyers too, but Feingold is really brilliant and gutsy, and he's from my state. I just feel the need to compensate for the total lawlessness of the last 8 years. I don't think of Hillary of being passionate about the law. With Feingold, that's the way I would describe him.

[cynatnite]

27. Still a long way to go n/t

[goodgd_yall]

29. Nothing is certain at this point

It's always been after the results from the first few primaries that the culling begins. ANYTHING can happen between now and the convention, really. All we need to remind us is Dean's fall from grace in 2004.

[TheFarseer]

30. Remember how quickly the media can turn on you

I know some think Hillary has it in the bag, but Obama is hanging around and if Edwards can pull out Iowa, I think he's very much in the mix. I think the idea of Richardson getting back in this is not outlandish but certainly a long shot. The rest have no chance.

[LostInAnomie]

31. We sure as hell know who the media does not want.

I'll give you some hints:

Which candidate's name isn't mentioned without a discussion of his expensive haircut?

Which candidate's house was a topic of media examination for days?

The media never takes this candidate's positions and policy on American poverty seriously because he has money.

Which candidate by most measures is leading in Iowa but receives less than a tenth of the media coverage the other two leading candidates receive?

[HCE SuiGeneris]

32. I definitely could support

Edwards. Too bad Kooch can't get any momentum though...

[GreenPartyVoter]

34. Yeh. Kooch is what we need

[Akoto]

36. Wrong spot, delete. n/t

[harun]

45. 100% correct. They are most afraid of Edwards. (n/t)

[Akoto]

37. I think it's down to Clinton and Obama, but ...

I do hope there's some sort of last minute turnaround, because neither of them particularly motivates me as a voter.

[Raine]

38. Media & rethugs have decided on Hillary

before a single vote is cast...we're doomed. x(

[SarahB]

39. Unfortunately, I think Clinton has been coronated.

Unfortunately also, she squandered my good favor by the end of 2002. :thumbsdown:

In good conscience, I can only truly support Kucinich in the primaries.

[MrSlayer]

40. If you listen to the corporate media Hillary is already it.

But I believe she's going to get slapped most unpleasantly in Iowa and New Hampshire.

[robcon]

41. I think Clinton will be the next presdient.

She's the most popular Democrat in the race, and she'll win easily, IMO.

[durrrty libby]

54. WooHoo I hope and pray to the universe you are right

She will be awesome. I loathe the nasty so called dems here,

and hope they explode when she is sworn in.

[Terri S]

43. I don't think most of the population is even paying attention yet

I'd say it's pretty definitely Clinton and Obama..but I wouldn't count Edwards out. It's a long way to election time. Lots could happen ....

[KAT119]

46. Gore/Kucinich are still the top moral possibilities-imo

[terrya]

49. Nope

It is not even close to being a "done deal".

This is going to be one of most competitative races in years.

[Ilsa]

52. It is so discouraging to me that I don't even feel like voting in the primary.

The media and iowa and a handful of other states will make their selection and the rest will be over, according to Russert, and a few others. Why should the rest of us even bother to listen to what the candidates have to say if it's already (practically) over by August 2007?

[GreenPartyVoter]

53. That is a problem with the current primary system, to be sure.

[mmonk]

55. Forcibly narrowed and debate limited.