PIC: for upcoming 60 Minutes: Arnold for President?

[yurbud]

context:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070804/ap_on_go_co/senate_rollcall_terrorism_1;_ylt=ArM1OzeYMvlpTRO0YbVxVLEGw_IE

story:
http://60minutes.yahoo.com/segment/77/arnold_schwarzenegger


It still pisses me off that the Democrats didn't pull out all the stops to defeat Arnold for re-election as governor and instead ran a largely unknown candidate and then didn't seriously back him--Clinton and Gore did commercial for one of the ballot measures, but NOT for the Democratic candidate for governor.

The Democrats could have done a lot of things: found a celeb to run against him, dig up his personal crap again, or do what they didn't the first time: show that he is in bed with the same business interests that blackmailed the state for $10 billion and caused the rolling blackouts.

By not neutralizing Arnold at that level, he now has a shot at senator, and given the respect Republicans show for the Constitution and how little the Democrats protest when they trample it, he also has a shot at president.

Democrats need to get a lot more creative in working against threats like this.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

1. May as well say, "Nazi for President" nt

[yurbud]

4. he will not only be our first foreign born president, but the first that is a genetically engineered

super-nazi.

[Poiuyt]

11. And the first to pose for nude photographs

[yurbud]

12. can you imagine if a pic like that existed of a Democratic candidate?

He would have to leave the country.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

10. You know, nothing surprises me anymore about this country. Nothing.

Laws are nothing but things that the right wing can play with and change at will.

[MisterP]

2. "Iy am pleahsd too rahn für Kanzler von Ameriika"

[UTUSN]

3. That "Liberal" Tweety threatened Dems about "smearing" him

He did his snake-eye thing, the look he had when he performed DONAHUE's execution on t.v., and after setting up the scenario of anybody smearing Ahhnuld, said threateningly, "They better NOT!!1"

That said, it would take more than using "a technicality" to get around the Constitution on this. They used the technicality angle with both Shrub-CHEENEE from the same state running as a ticket.

What is revolting is for 60 Minutes to be fueling the idiocy.

To think that right now, our democracy has only depended on CHEENEE's being too old and feeble and Ahhnuld being naturalized, for them to make their corruption of power official.

[yurbud]

5. they probably bark on command after that Rather fiasco.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Do You Realize How Hard It Is To Amend The Constitution?

eom

[OzarkDem]

8. Pelosi & Reid will help them

they love helping the GOP.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. You Still Need Two Thirds Of The State Legislatures....

And a two thirds vote in the House and Senate...

Put me down as unconvinced...

[yurbud]

13. have you noticed how seriously it's been taken the last few years? Bush will just add a signing

statement.

[OzarkDem]

7. No doubt he will win

Dems can forget it, they've forgotten that they belong to the opposition party.

[DavidDvorkin]

14. I'd be tempted to vote for him

Highly unlikely that I would, but I'd be tempted.

Why?

An emotional reaction to the kind of vile crap I see here when Schwartzenegger is mentioned.

First, the xenophobia. Yes, that's exactly what it is. Perhaps, as an immigrant myself, I'm more aware of it than the native born are.

Second, the stupid Nazi shit. Arnold is not a Nazi. What his father may have been is irrelevant.

[yurbud]

16. that stuff is a joke. What he did initially as governor and who was backing him is not

unless you've got a couple of million or more in the bank, voting for Arnold is as much committing suicide as voting for Baby Bush.

Arnold is the same corporate cyborg as Bush, only with a california wrapper instead of the artificial hillybilly one of Bush's.

[Superman Returns]

18. Agree with you David

He's a moderate Republican, no need for people to call him a Nazi. It seems like there is no in between anymore. We've become just as black and white as the right-wing.

[yurbud]

19. You have an odd definition of moderate. Just because someone isn't a Bible-banging

I live in CA, and because of his original ed budget cuts, a third of part time instructors at a local community college were cut.

And that was because of a budget deal that was necessary because he refused to get as much of our money as possible back as possible from the Enrons and other energy pirates who extorted $10 billion dollars from the state. The republicans blamed Gray Davis for the resulting deficit, and used that club to beat him, demand the recall, then put in their tool Arnold, who, like Bush, seems only vaguely aware of how government functions as is clearly the tool of others.

Just because someone isn't a Bible banging demagogue like Bush doesn't mean they aren't dangerous. Those who pursued similar economic policies in South America were literally chased from office when they gave corporations gifts like privatizing water in Bolivia.

Arnold's recent concern about global warming is window dressing because he realized he was going to get his ass handed to him in the election if he ran as what he was: a Chamber of Commerce tool who wants to privatize everything, starve the government of funding, and generally give most Californians a Third World standard of living.

[Connie_Corleone]

15. I don't think Cyborgs can run for president under our Constitution.

[yurbud]

17. I think the Republicans could run a dirty gym sock and everyone in DC would pretend it's the most

qualified thing in the race.

[Cha]

20. arnie has steve spielberg behind

him ..whata ya goin' do?

[NuttyFluffers]

21. trial balloon. floating the idea.

funny, even some of my republican friends -- not hardcore RW, just party -- who happen to be immigrants absolute reject the idea of a naturalized citizen as president. even all my naturalized citizen relatives, who are like 98% left, balk at the idea. their worry? they say it's impossible to be impartial in terms of policy with regards to their childhood home. they'd have difficulty putting america first in such circumstances, and as president who sets enaction of policy, that's exactly what's (theoretically) required of you. they all, to a person, left and right wing and all parties, have said they could never vote in good conscience for a legalized immigrant citizen for that position. congress, court, etc. that's fine, but the guy who might have to push the shiny red button on the football, they just wouldn't have the faith in such a person.

it was an enlightening perspective to say the least, being a born american versus naturalized. after quite a few discussions, and the complete and utter unanimity of their position, separate from influence and awareness of each other, has led me to believe they're probably right. if they feel they cannot be so impartial in their heart, and they love america with an undying passion that they abandoned their ancestral home for here, then that speaks to something very strong in the human psyche that should not be overlooked.

[sakabatou]

22. Unfortunately (I thin) he can't

He was foreign born, right?

[sakabatou]

23. Unless they change the Constitution