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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 04:50 PM
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If we don't stop them, you can kiss your Vits Goodbye!
Folks, this is urgent and quite frightening to think what our nazi government could do to us all.
Access to natural health is under assault!

(I'll probably get flamed but, if Hillary is for this(and I think she and Durbin are, THEY are part of the problem, and Hillary should never be allowed to run this country! Be very careful about the candidate you endorse.)Be very careful!


OPERATION CURE ALL IS JUST ONE MEANS TO AN END

You see, Operation Cure-All is just a tactic, a vehicle, in a much bigger overall plan. It is a result of "Codex Alimentarius" (meaning food code) -- a set of regulations that aim to outlaw any health information in connection with vitamins and limit free access to natural therapies on a worldwide scale.

WHAT'S BEHIND CODEX ALMENTARIUS?

Behind the Codex Alimentarius Commission is the United Nations and the World Health Organization working in conjunction with the multinational pharmaceutical cartel and international banks. Its initial efforts in the US with the FDA were defeated, so it found another ally in the FTC. Now Codex, with the FTC and the pharmaceutical cartel behind it, it threatens to become a trade issue, using the campaign of Operation Cure-All to advance its goals.

Codex began simply enough when the U.N. authorized the World Health Organization and the Food and Agriculture Organization to develop a universal food code. Their purpose was to 'harmonize' regulations for dietary supplements worldwide and set international safety standards for the purposes of increased trade. Pharmaceutical interests stepped in and began exerting their influence. Instead of focusing on food safety, Codex is using its power to promote worldwide restrictions on vitamins and food supplements, severely limiting their availability and dosages.

REAL GOALS OF CODEX
This is to bring about international 'harmonization.' While global harmony sounds benign, is that the real purpose of this plan? While the stated goal of Codex is to establish unilateral regulations for dietary supplements in every country, the actual goal is to outlaw health products and information on vitamins and dietary supplements, except those under their direct control. These regulations would supersede United States domestic laws without the American people's voice or vote in the matter.......snip

WHAT CODEX WILL BRING
What can we expect under Codex? To give you an idea, here are some important points:

Dietary supplements could not be sold for preventive (prophylactic) or therapeutic use.

Potencies would be limited to extremely low dosages. Only the drug companies and the big phytopharmaceutical companies would have the right to produce and sell the higher potency products (at inflated prices).

Prescriptions would be required for anything above the extremely low doses allowed (such as 35 mg. on niacin).

Common foods such as garlic and peppermint would be classified as drugs or a third category (neither food nor drugs) that only big pharmaceutical companies could regulate and sell. Any food with any therapeutic effect can be considered a drug, even benign everyday substances like water.

Codex regulations for dietary supplements would become binding (escape clauses would be eliminated).
All new dietary supplements would be banned unless they go through Codex testing and approval.
Genetically altered food would be sold worldwide without labeling.

IF YOU'RE NOT OUTRAGED-YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION!!!

Go to the www.healthfreedomusa.org
site and SIGN THE PETITION!
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 05:05 PM
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1. Petition Sent.........
Got to STOP the food police and the wall street powered health care industries; BOTH are not good for YOUR physical or financial health and wellness.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 05:10 PM
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4. Exactly!
It's hard to imagine a world where you can't go treat your own ailments by being informed and going to the health food store of YOUR CHOICE! Imagine it all being taken away. It's Nazi-ism, which is ironic since the whole idea was formulated by some former Real Nazis( sorry no link for that) Guys that ran the camps...nice!
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 05:08 PM
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2. Old and vetoed
Codex alimentarius is just a list, similar to the GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe) list the FDA keeps. The anti-vitamin language has been dropped.

I don't know how Hillary gets her name dragged into all these panics. Alex Jones, maybe?

The alt-health movement needs ongoing legal and scientific advocacy; these episodic scare campaigns are counterproductive.

--p!
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 05:12 PM
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5. Sure they want it to look harmless.
I'm afraid you are seriously misinformed. I keep thinking of someone that might get a diagnosis of cancer and told they HAVE to have Chemo...Would you want them not to have a choice at all???
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 06:02 PM
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15. I am not misinformed. Not at all. But you may be getting scammed.
There is a great deal of misinformation at the website you linked -- as well as products to sell.

The Codex is being used by the "sovereignty" movement to link vitamin issues to the old, crazed John Birch Society line that "The UN is going to take us over! They're going to suspend the Constitution, make all the road signs Metric, and force our children to learn Esperanto!"

My response is "not a chance in hell."

The WHO already dealt with the Codex -- several times. It's a product list. It is and has always been used as a catalog, not a law. It only has "force of law" because its terminology and legal citations can be used in US courts without a ton of supporting appendices and annexes. And it is subordinate to the laws of every country in which it is used, by WHO rules and treaties. Even if it did mandate laws, they would have no power in the USA -- read the part about treaty-making powers in the US Constitution.

You are right to be concerned about this issue. The pharmaceutical industry would dearly like to get their hooks into the part of the vitamin industry they don't already own. And there is a whole movement of scientifically untrained people who consider themselves "anti-quackery activists" who would have people get prescriptions for a burger or a chunk of tofu. Many of them have solid lefty credentials, have worked for Nader, etc. The effort is non-partisan. The Codex Alimentarius scare comes entirely from the Right.

Don't fall for this right-wing scam. It can only discredit us. There are a number of real threats to our ability to take care of ourselves.

Incidentally, I AM in treatment for a number of serious conditions, and I HAVE used "alternate" methods as well as conventional ones. I have even used some treatments experimentally. This is not something that is foreign to me. But the phobia over the Codex is strictly a wingnut recruitment tool and money-making cash cow. It takes advantage of people's misunderstandings and fears of international law. And there is always some product -- a book or a CD -- to buy. "Operators are ready to take your order 24 hours a day!"

But don't feel bad ... the scammers are very common and very, very good.

--p!
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Kindigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 05:10 PM
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3. They will pry my garlic
from my cold dead hands :grr:
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 05:13 PM
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6. Imagine not being able to grow your own herbs!!!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 05:21 PM
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9. Yeh! We're
stronger and there's more of us..even republicans like their vitamins.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 05:19 PM
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7. Thank you, Fitz!
“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has.”

- Margaret Mead

And I have no doubt TPTB would love to get their greedy fists on the natural health scene.

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Buck Laser Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 05:21 PM
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8. Maybe you'd better tighten your tinfoil hat...
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 05:33 PM
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12. tin foil hat
my buttinski! This is real and hopefully preventable!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 05:23 PM
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10. I Just Read A Bit About Operation Cure All. I Really Don't See A Problem With It.
The mismarketing and outright deception of some of these online marketed supplements is absolutely out of control and in need of restriction. I just don't see what the problem is here. Protecting consumers from fraudulent or deceitful claims that attempt to manipulate them while putting them at risk either directly or indirectly, would be considered a good thing in my opinion.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 05:31 PM
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11. You need to read all the complete articles
of healthfreedomusa.org, and any they link to as well.

Sure, there is some snake oil out there..that's one thing, but for the FDA/Drug Companies to try to just take over completely restricting you to make up your mind about what is best for you...well ,that's fascist!

Plus, synthetic drugs are NOT good for anyone! The drug companies have been lying and manipulating us all for years! They are just upset to lose a little business, and they aren't going to go gentle into that dark night!

You might find something interesting in :Death by Modern Medicine(sorry no link)-Carolyn Dean, I think.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 05:39 PM
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13. I Read All That I Needed To. This Is Overdramatized.
I saw nothing factual about OCA that in any way shows that they have completely restricted your ability to make up your mind about what is best for you. The only facts I found were that they issue regulations for the online marketing of these supplements and only put restrictions on the deceitful and fraudulent claims that many online marketers of these products use to deceive and manipulate the public.

Not sure where you're getting the rest of your melodramatic claims from in relation to OCA, cause I just can't find anything to give them credibility.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 06:01 PM
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14. this is old
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 06:04 PM
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16. Thank You For The Injection Of Fact Into Melodramatic Claims.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 06:08 PM
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17. Excellent find!
The panic over the Codex goes back at least six years. It has been a valuable fund-raiser for wingnut "sovereignty" activists.

Thanks for posting it -- you saved me some work!

--p!
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