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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:16 PM
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Bob Allen: Fear Of "Other Black Guys" Made Me Go Along With The BJ Offer
State Rep. Allen explains sex case: Fear made me play along

CRAIG BAILEY/FLORIDA TODAY,
July 11, 2007

TITUSVILLE - State Rep. Bob Allen told police he was just playing along when a undercover officer suggested in a public restroom that the legislator give him oral sex and $20 because he was intimidated, according to a taped statement and other documents released Thursday.

Allen has already denied any wrongdoing, but the recordings and documents offered new details about what he and police say happened on July 11 inside the men's room at Veterans Memorial Park.

"I certainly wasn't there to have sex with anybody and certainly wasn't there to exchange money for it," said Allen, R-Merritt Island, who was arrested on charges of soliciting prostitution.

"This was a pretty stocky black guy, and there was nothing but other black guys around in the park," Allen, who is white, told police in a taped statement after his arrest. Allen said he feared he "was about to be a statistic" and would have said anything just to get away.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/state/orl-allentape0307aug03,0,1892734.story


*** - So, there was nothing but "other black guys" around the park? But Bob, I thought you were just walking around the park, visiting it at night, you know -- "looking" at things. You said you had helped to make a lot of improvements there, and you said you just wanted to see how things.... were going. Of course that was the spur of the moment with all those hot camera lights blinding and confusing you. And you didn't have a lawyer there to help you with your lie statement.

But if there were so many "other black guys" there that you were frightened of, then why'd you stay? And once having SEEN all these fearsome "other black guys" why'd you go into a restroom, with only one entry/exit where you could be trapped by those "other black guys? And why'd you peep over the bathroom stalls? Weren't you frightened? And why'd you bust open the stall door once you got a look at the goods? Were you going to carry out a citizens arrest? Take measurements? Bestow accolades with your restroom stall partner over the manliness of the..... decor? "Hmmm?????

If that crap flies with a jury, you deserve everything you can get from those stupid bastards down there.....


Here's your button Bob

- I think the only statistics he was interested in are measured with a ruler.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:19 PM
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1. Oh, dear...that lame excuse really BLOWS....
:rofl:
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:24 PM
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2. Yeah....
he should have tried it out on a focus group first....

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:26 PM
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3. The Linday Lohan defense!
The black guy did it!
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:30 PM
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6. Assuming he's found guilty....
...and that's a BIG assumption seeing how this is Florida, I hope they put him in a cell with the biggest black guy in the jailhouse. I'm sure he can explain it more clearly to his constituents once he gets the face-to-face (sort of) opportunity. And later, he and all the guys will sit around and have a good laugh about it. Haha.

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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:26 PM
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4. Well that makes sense.
When you are in fear of your safety, the smartest thing for you to do is identify yourself as a gay prostitute. :eyes:

Jeez, when will all these "black guys" quit forcing rich white people to commit stupid crimes!? :sarcasm:
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:32 PM
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7. I have no idea....
...when I walk down the streets now, white guys just throw their wallets at me for no apparent reason. Of course there all empty...


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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:55 PM
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25. ROFLMAO!
:rofl:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:26 PM
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5. So, to 'get away' he was going to drive off with the 'stocky black guy?'
Why that is simply....

PREPOSTEROUS!!!!



:rofl:

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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:34 PM
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8. And he's an elected official....
...which assumes a certain level of competency in most states. But as we all know, then there's Florida....


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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:35 PM
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9. His Account Is Beyond Stupid And Racist...
But it sounds like entrapment to me...

The two elements of a successful prostitution arrest are sex and money ... The arrested party must be the one asking for a sex act and offering money for it...It seems in this case the decoy offered sex first...

Seems murky to me...

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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:39 PM
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11. Well, we'll see...
from the article:

The officers, who didn't recognize the seven-year legislator, said they thought he was behaving suspiciously and thought that he was looking for a sexual partner, according to the reports released by the Brevard-Seminole State Attorney's Office.

In a written statement released Thursday, Titusville Officer Danny Kavanaugh recalled entering the restroom twice and said he was drying his hands in a stall when Allen peered over the stall door.

After peering over the stall a second time, Allen pushed open the door and joined Kavanaugh inside, the officer wrote. Allen muttered " 'hi,' " and then said, " 'this is kind of a public place, isn't it,' " the report said.


Looks like Bob peeked first to me....

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:43 PM
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14. You Are Correct...
I'm just saying after that the officer brought up sex first...

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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:47 PM
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16. It's not clear to me the cop brought up sex....
...but he definitely brought up money:

The officer said he asked Allen about going somewhere else and that the legislator suggested going "across the bridge, it's quieter over there."

"Well look, man, I'm trying to make some money; you think you can hook me up with 20 bucks?" Kavanaugh asked Allen.


But cops can do that, I think. Or so I'm told.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:52 PM
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22. We'll See...He'll Probably Plead... Or Get A Hung Jury... No Pun Intended
I just know the two elements are sex and money...


Anyway, his explanation is bizarre and he needs to confront his confliction, racism, and compulsion....

Even though he's an idiot GOPUER I have some sytmpathy for his predicament...He has a wife and kids who didn't need to be part of this mess... I'm glad to see the party suffer but have some sympathy for the individual...
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:55 PM
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24. ROFL!!!!!
I'm sure he will be looking for at least a HUNG jury. And if he doesn't get one, they better watch out in the courthouse restroom....

:rofl:
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:36 PM
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10. LOL...
That's the best he could come up with...his legal counsel sux

So that's why he blew a guy for twenty bucks in a public toilet...so he wouldn't look bad?

Okey Dokey...
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:43 PM
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15. If pride goeth before the fall...
...then fear of "other black guys" must certainly make one committ BJ's, eh?

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_testify_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:40 PM
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12. Reminds me of 'Brain Candy'
The Kids in the Hall movie...there's an exchange between the gay man in denial and his therapist, shortly after the guy in denial is busted in a public restroom:


Guy: I went out driving, because as you know I love driving, when suddenly I had to take the biggest pee in the world.
So I saw this washroom.
I stopped in, but it was full of those "types."
You know, queers and queens.
So one of them tried to kiss me...
and I said, "No! No, no."
But he just kept kissing me. Why would he do that?

Doc: Well, didn't you tell me that you had...
gripped him by the buttocks and pulled him closer?

Guy: Yes, but that was 'cause I was concerned that he might fall.
Doctor, his pants were down around his goddamn ankles!

:rofl:
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:49 PM
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17. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!
:rofl:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:41 PM
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13. "I'm not just a pervert! I'm a bigot!!" (That's one helluva defense.)
He's a perverted bigot. :puke:

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:49 PM
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18. Bwahahahahahaha!!! What a concise way of putting it!!!!! It's much more acceptable in GOP circles
to be a bigot, rather than a guy who picks up 'stocky black guys' in public restrooms!

It's pretty funny...and ya have to be amazed at the amount of hubris-laden desperation that would even motivate the idiot to try to toss that crap up against the wall to see if it will stick!!!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:50 PM
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19. Like Rodney Dangerfield's explanation of why he tried marijuana
"I didn't know what I was doing. I was on cocaine!"
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:53 PM
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23. Bwahaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!
:spray:
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:51 PM
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20. Unfortunately....
...it could work. Its Florida.


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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 02:00 PM
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28. Oppositeland. Upsidedownstate.
I guess that's why I'm allergic to such places. I'm far more inclined to defend perverts than bigots.

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:52 PM
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21. Oh...my...God!!
What BS!
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:59 PM
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27. Well, he is a Repuke from Florida....
...and they don't have very high expectations there for Repukes. Actually if it weren't for the national media attention, that line could've probably worked!



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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:58 PM
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26. Give him a chance... he can top even this latest story....n/t
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 02:02 PM
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30. At this rate, I wouldn't be at all surprised...
...but if I were his attorney, I'd have his jaws wired shut!


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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 02:01 PM
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29. oooorrrr he's gay, he likes black guys, and he went to a well-known cruising spot...
... looking for sex.

Which is the more straightforward explanation?
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 02:06 PM
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31. Straightforward explanation?
You did see in the article that he's a Repuke. He's a politician. And he's from Florida.

I don't think straightforward applies anywhere in this situation. Just sayin....

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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 02:14 PM
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32. bad choice of words, I guess...
The likely explanation is that this is exactly what it looks like: he offered an undercover cop money for sexual acts, and got caught.

Sucks to be him, I guess. (Oops -- 'nother bad choice of words.)
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 10:21 PM
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34. I think you went too far the other way this time...
...it isn't a "likely" explanation. That a definite, uh-huh, yep, damn-straight! :D

:rofl:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 02:16 PM
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33. i just had a moment -- there i was imaging how many adjectives he ticked off
in his mind BEFORE he got to stocky --

1 -- masculine

2 -- powerful

3 -- it's twue, it's twue

4 -- mandingo

5 -- see above

6 -- muscular

7 -- nice ass

8 -- see above

9 -- mmmmm daddy

10 -- forceful
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 10:25 PM
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35. Oh my!!!
It's twue, it's twue!!!

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