Oh man, * is truly a fucking PIG, he is blaming Democrats for the bridge collapse

[Nimrod2005]

For not sending him a spending bill....etc. Took him about 10 seconds into his first sentence to make this a political thing, and he is going after them HARD!!!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. And what would he have done with the spending bill if he'd got it?

Vetoed it, probably.

And anyhow, didn't Tony Snow just blame the state? How can it be both the Congressional Democrats' fault and the state's fault?

[GreenPartyVoter]

12. They're playing the blame game, as is their way.

[LibDemAlways]

57. Since when was repairing America's infrastructure ever a

priority for the Bush Crime family? He's lying through his teeth because he knows the corporate whores aren't going to ask any hard questions.

[Ian David]

2. SeeAlso: AFL-CIO warns Bush in 2002: Stop slashing billions frm America's transportation infrastrure

AFL-CIO warns Bush in 2002: Stop slashing billions from America's transportation infrastructure!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1494728&mesg_id=1494728

And:

Other Third-World Countries and Banana Republics don't take care of their infrastructure, either.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1495367&mesg_id=1495367

[Sapere aude]

3. Sure, between Jan 07 and yesterday a spending bill would have fixed the bridge!

[ejbr]

35. BINGO!

And even IF there was enough time between legislation and fixing the bridge, we have */Cheney no bid, incompetent crony contractors in charge which would haved made the structure even WORSE!

[madokie]

4. It would be funny if not so fucking serious

some du-fus was on here talking shit earlier about how can it be blamed on the bushilter* Oh well, wonder if he's watching this

splchk

[eShirl]

5. if the spending bill had been sent, the bridge would be standing right now waiting to be fixed?

How dumb does he think we are?

[Bryn]

16. True!

You're right!

[shain from kane]

29. Propped up with stacks of $100 bills. n/t

[Supersedeas]

91. in Bushcountry -- his constituents do not make that leap, too busy knodding

[kikiek]

6. What an insult. He doesn't care he used it to attack the dems. Unfucking real.

[Richard Steele]

7. No morals, no scruples, no shame. That's B*sh alright. nm

[sandyj999]

8. I Heard that and Turned Him Off!

We have lots of money to rebuild Iraq though, don't we? He makes my blood boil but at this age my circulation can use all the help it can get!

[npincus]

9. Monkeys often hurl turds when excited

[eShirl]

10. I think this is the correct explanation of this morning's display.

[sandyj999]

11. Then Can We Expect to See Cheney Airborne? n/t

[youthere]

17. In this particular case it's a monkey turd hurling itself.

[Cha]

18. :(

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1495379&mesg_id=1495528

[jsamuel]

13. A couple of years ago I realized that our bridges would begin to fall apart

Under Bush, our country no longer values public infrastructure and does not look to mitigate risks.

[wicket]

14. Pig fucking son of a bitch

:grr:

[lebkuchen]

15. Why did Norm Mineta quit the Sec. of Transportation?

He was on the job for 5-1/2 years. Why quit only to be replaced by a person who doesn't believe in using federal funds for the nation's infrastructure?

[Flarney]

I sense a KO Special Comment brewing over this... n/t

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

27. Bring it...

nt

[Greylyn58]

30. That's funny...

I just said the same thing on another thread.

Keith will give this bastard a humongous smack-down over that comment! The bastard!!! The man has absolutely no shame!

[Sequoia]

19. "Bombs Not Roads"

was a headline on the Los Angeles Times back in 2001 or early 2002. That's why. That headline screamed at me when I saw this yesterday. Where's the National Guard...in the Middle East of course.

[Dinger]

20. bu$h Ought To CRAWL Across That Bridge Now, All The Way Across

rove could tell him he walks on water & see how that works out. I'm just sayin.'

[shain from kane]

33. and kiss my boot.

[TheWebHead]

21. he didn't blame dems re: bridge

he just manipulated the fact that the media would cover him live if he sent his best wishes to the victims then he went after the Dems with his every day, every hour, every minute, every second nonsense about how much the budget would cost.

[Flarney]

28. Yeah but the juxtaposition of the two ideas is surely not an accident...

...considering how well it worked re: Saddam/911...

[Virginia Dare]

81. Classic Karl Rove...n/t

[catmandu57]

22. So send him an emergency appropriation bill

to spend money on Domestic Infrastructure only and we'll see if he signs or vetos.

[Virginia Dare]

77. Excellent idea...n/t

[Squatch]

23. To be fair, everybody on this board is blaming Republicans

:shrug:

I guess it's finger-pointing time.

[sandyj999]

25. Not Me I Blame Politicians In General n/t

[wicket]

39. It's just like your signature:

"Republican-led = Americans DEAD."

That's what I believe anyway.

[Zookeeper]

42. Our governor, Pawlenty, is a barely elected, low-tax...

Rethug. It IS the fault of the Republican governor and legislators of Minnesota, in addition to the Feds under Bush.

Minnesota has always prided itself on being extremely community minded with an infrastructure that works. Pawlenty and the "Taxpayers League" (a couple of rich guys with an inordinate amount of influence) have been doing their damndest to undermine that tradition.

[WTF cubed]

69. reality: Shit Happens n/t

[Squatch]

70. My first thought was: when it's your time to go...

We place an incredible amount of trust into the builders of infrastructure. But, like DoD systems, contracts for bridges, etc are awarded to the LOWEST bidder.

[blues90]

24. A real shame there is not a structure problem on the white house lawn

something like an un-foreseen sink hole or a stream pipe .

[jgraz]

32. Well, there does seem to be a sewage spill

No, wait. That's just the pResident.

[wicket]

34. It's all his verbal diarrhea

n/t

[Joe Fields]

79. He doesn't spend any time there. It would have to be at Crawford.

Or Camp David.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

26. It's a good thing the Secret Service haven't mastered mind-reading...

I'd be getting a visit from them about now.

[sandyj999]

36. They Could stop here on their way. n/t

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

43. This Mississippi River at Minneapolis

is nine feet deep. Bush has plumbed its depth. There are bodies in the water and he's trying to score cheap political points. I'm simply appalled.

[LoveMyCali]

95. That's what bothered me the most too

couldn't he at least express some sympathy for the victims and their families before pointing the finger of blame. Oh, that's right, he'd have to be human to show some sympathy. :mad:

[npincus]

31. Monkey knows 'Merkins are pissed about the 8 billion/month spent in Iraq

1 1/2 months of this taxpayer money could repair bridge infrastructure (heard the figure 10 billion on CNN to repair bridges Feds identified in their report)...

It's the same old "Look there, not here!" that he's been pulling for the past 6 1/2 years! Will he get away with it again? Hell f*cking NO.

[Ganja Ninja]

37. He's only fooling the fools that want to be fooled.

The other 70% know that we could have built half a dozen new bridges here for what we spend in Iraq in just one week.

[Nimrod2005]

40. Amen...........nt

[Zookeeper]

38. A political attack and a bunch of pap about "prayers."

Classic Bush.

I was on the riverbank by the collapsed bridge 15 minutes after it happened and I'm so sickened by his cold, hard, disconnected heart. :puke:

[Kablooie]

41. Is there a quote on this? I can't find anything. I hope it's not just made up.

If it is it weakens our critisisms of him

[wicket]

44. You think multiple DUers would just make this up??

Try google news, I had no problem finding it:

LINK

U.S. President George Bush sharply criticized the U.S. Congress for heading for vacation without passing any spending bills.

Bush also complained in a statement delivered Thursday in the White House Rose Garden following a Cabinet meeting about the amount of money Congress is considering spending, warning it would lead to a massive tax hike.

Failure to adopt a budget, Bush said, means "departments may not be able to move forward with urgent priorities.

"It doesn't have to be this way. They won last year's elections fair and square and now they control the calendar."

Bush said Congress has an obligation to pass spending bills in a "fiscally responsible way," noting that the 0.7 percent difference in what he proposed and what Congress is considering translates to $22 billion -- "and only in Washington" could that be considered a small difference, Bush said.

The new fiscal year begins Oct. 1.

MORE

LINK

President Bush offered his condolences to the families of the victims in the Minnesota bridge collapse.

The President made his remarks brief, then scolded Congress for not sending him spending measures in a timely fashion.

Meanwhile, the White House says an inspection two years ago found problems in a Minnesota highway bridge.

President Bush's spokesman, Tony Snow, says the inspection found some structural deficiencies. He says the 40-year-old bridge rated 50 on a scale of 120 for structural stability.

He says it "doesn't mean there was a risk of failure." But Snow adds that when a report finds deficiencies, it's up to the state to take "corrective actions."

The White House also announced that first lady Laura Bush will visit Minneapolis tomorrow. She'll console families of the victims of the collapse.

[DS1]

45. So far, absolutely. Where in that link does it say anything about this bridge in MN?

[wicket]

48. It's all happening live on TV

That link was regarding the speech he just gave on the bridge collapse. But go ahead and keep believing that DU is chock full of liars :hi:

[sandyj999]

50. I heard it which is the reason I turned him off!n/t

[wicket]

52. I don't blame you

:hi:

[wicket]

54. Here you go:

LINK

President Bush offered his condolences to the families of the victims in the Minnesota bridge collapse.

The President made his remarks brief, then scolded Congress for not sending him spending measures in a timely fashion.

Meanwhile, the White House says an inspection two years ago found problems in a Minnesota highway bridge.

President Bush's spokesman, Tony Snow, says the inspection found some structural deficiencies. He says the 40-year-old bridge rated 50 on a scale of 120 for structural stability.

He says it "doesn't mean there was a risk of failure." But Snow adds that when a report finds deficiencies, it's up to the state to take "corrective actions."

The White House also announced that first lady Laura Bush will visit Minneapolis tomorrow. She'll console families of the victims of the collapse.

[Virginia Dare]

82. This is a Rovian psyops..

when you listen to the speech, your mind will make the connection. Go back and actually read the speech, and you will see there was actually no direct connection made. It was juxtapositioning, he's a master at it.

[bluedog]

47. fine then.no more money for Iraq.........put

money into America and will he say he'll veto it?........of course he will!..lying piece of rotted flah

[wicket]

51. EXACTLY

:hi:

[Kablooie]

60. It's just that these things get so unbelievable it's hard to accept them as true.

[onenote]

55. Here's exactly what he said. I think some of the outrage is overblown.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/08/20070802-2.html

He came out and said that he was just in a cabinet meeting and that one of the things discussed was the Minnesota bridge collapse. He then offered the standard words of assistance and concern. He then changed subjects, noting that another thing that the cabinet discussed was the status of pending legislation and, in particular, the "failure" of Congress to send any spending bills to his desk. The point wasn't to link the Minnesota bridge collapse to the bills, but rather to link the impending Congressional recess to the lack of bills...that is, to further the repub talking point that the Dems are a "do-nothing" Congress. If he was trying to create a linkage between the lack of spending bills and the bridge collapse, he would've fit in a reference to funding for infrastructure, but he didn't. Instead, he complained about the fact that the Democrats are proposing to spend "too much."

Bottom line: presumably, chimpy planned on bashing the Dems on budget issues on the eve of the recess, but then the bridge collapse occurred so he had to say something about that too.

[Kablooie]

64. If this is what is referred to, the reaction is misplaced.

He doesn't connect the bridge falling and the spending bills. They are two different issues.

I wish things wouldn't be exaggerated like this. It only weakens our arguments if we use the same tactics as the Republicans. Hell, there's enough real crap going down that we don't need to make any up.

I don't listen to Stephanie Miller because of this kind of thing.
She needs to fill up time so stretches any little point until it's a huge balloon.
This is exactly what Rush does. It's the same thing but on the other side. I hate it on both sides.

I want to know the truth, and if someone has done horrific things, we should know.
But if things are exaggerated to make the opposing side seem worse than they are I lose respect for the exaggerating side.

[onenote]

65. You are right. But sadly, its becoming more and more common around here

[tabasco]

68. Then go away.

It seems you are in the wrong place anyway.

[onenote]

73. Sorry. I have no plans of going away. If you don't want to read about reality

don't read my posts.

[Telly Savalas]

94. He really should leave. It's hard to have groupthink when there are dissenting voices.

[myrna minx]

67. I suggest you listen to the comments yourself.

In text form, it doesn't have the same impact as his verbal presentation. How, then, did many Americans believe that Saddam was behind 9/11 without him actually saying so? Most on DU that heard his comments did not hallucinate what we heard and took away from it.

[wicket]

75. You're right

Hearing it made all the difference. There is no doubt what he was implying.

[northernsoul]

90. yep, you've got to hear it to understand it

This was not two concepts clumsily tacked together. He is clearly inviting the inference that Democrats are to be blamed.

[IDemo]

46. Rove gets all the credit for this one

With bodies presumably still in the water, leave it to *'s brain to politicize a tragedy like this. Everything must be turned into a political battle point in KKKarl's worldview, and Democratic anger is gold.

[Virginia Dare]

78. Exactly, that scumbucket never misses an opportunity to bash..

the Democratic party. He'd use his own mother's funeral for those purposes if he could.

[wicket]

97. "He'd use his own mother's funeral for those purposes if he could."

I'm sure he will when the time comes. These people are utter scum :grr:

[AndyA]

49. George Bush: the buck passes here.

Nothing is ever his fault.

The Democrats are responsible for everything, and if there's any doubt, it would be Bill Clinton's fault.

George Bush is a failure. Like anything the Democrats could have passed since January would have had any impact on this situation. Bush has been in office, and his party in power, since the 2001 report that the bridge needed to be updated. How he justifies that this is a Dem problem in his tiny little mind is beyond me.

The man is a disgrace, and needs to be impeached!

[spiderpig]

53. Tell me I'm in an alternative universe.

This can't be my reality.

[onenote]

61. You are. Here's a link to reality

YOu can make your own decision as to whether he was blaming the Democrats for the bridge collapse. Personally, I don't think so. I think he was planning to make a statement bashing the Democrats on the even of recess for not sending him spending bills, thereby furthering the repub talking point that the Democrats are a "do-nothing" Congress (what else can repubs talk about during the recess?). But then the Minnesota bridge collapse occurred, so he had to talk about that too. I see no effort to link them, including no refernece to funding for infrastructure. In fact, his complaint is that the Democrats want to spend too much.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/08/20070802-2.html

[Virginia Dare]

80. It was one more of his infamous juxtapositions, a Rovian trick..

similar to how he would connect 9/11 and Saddam, without actually making the connection. It's very subtle.

[onenote]

85. It was far too subtle.

If they wanted to make that connection, there would have been a reference to infrastructure funding buried in the statement. Instead, it complained that the Democrats want to increase spending. I really think people are reading too much into this. Recess is coming. Repubs are heading home and have nothing to talk about. So the meme is that the Democrats are a do-nothing Congress. That statement was going to be made. But then a bridge collapsed so they had to say something about it as well.

The worst thing is that if Democrats make the claim that chimpy was trying to connect the non-passage of spending bills to what happened, some people will actually believe it.

[Virginia Dare]

86. I guess I'm too jaded to draw those conclusions now..

but you could be right. It's a shame feeling this way. I don't trust anything they do or say anymore. I'm like the OP, I go instantly on the defensive everytime they open their mouths.

[onenote]

88. I understand, but there's a danger

Maintaining our credibility is crucial if we are going to hold the higher ground against this lying bunch of cretins. Take, for instance, the claim (which fortunately doesn't appear with the regularity it once did) that there really are hundreds and hundreds of unreported US military fatalities in Iraq and, in particular, that fatalities that occur in military hosptitals outside iraq from wounds incurred in iraq aren't counted. This, as a brief review of icasualties.org reveals, is pure blather. But people insisted on believing it because they take the view that anything that chimpy and his gang tells us must be untrue. A lot is, but if they say the sky is blue, I for one may go outside to make sure, but if its in fact blue, I'm not still going to insist that they are lying.

Again, I understand how we've gotten to this point, but the reason I act like the reality police is that if we undermine our own credibility we undermine our ability to convincingly attack the credibility of the repubs.

[Blue_Roses]

89. the connection is clear and I agree that this was definitely a

"let's cover our ass" comment by Bush. They're masters at using words that indirectly BLAME others (namely the Democratic party) Their subtle, stinging, snide, wise-cracks easily points the blame somewhere else. They have done this through their whole administration--Iraq/911 is a prime example. It's their MO, for God's sake and he's doing it again. When has Bush taken responsibility for any of his MANY fuck-ups:shrug: NEVER!

I do agree that the state is responsible for making the demands for infrastructure revenue, but Bush has set the climate in D.C. that states shouldn't ask for help with state problems, ex: health care, roads, medicaid, etc...

...makes me sick...

[MrMickeysMom]

56. He and "Boner" are twisting that story for the Fox crowd's cameras now. What liars

... Filthy, fucking liars they are. I think they must enjoy bleeding this country to death by its infrastructure and ownership.

[krispos42]

58. Pawlenty vetoed the increase in gasoline tax

You know, the one that goes straight to MinnDOT for bridges and highways?

No, can't have that, even though an extra nickel at the pump means a dime in the coffers because of federal matching funds.

Gas prices can fluctuate by 15-20 cents per day, making Big Oil and hostile countries rich, and that's okay, but GOD FORBID we add a nickel to the gas tax.

[AspenRose]

59. Oh, this is only going to get worse.....

Venue for GOP Convention in 2008: Minneapolis. :-(

[LibDemAlways]

66. You can bet the repukes will trumpet emergency

legislation to get that bridge rebuilt before next summer so that they can use it for propaganda purposes at the convention.

[WI_DEM]

62. The Governor of MN for the last five years who knew about this is a Republican

[lpbk2713]

63. As if the bridge turned to shit since November. What a dickhead!!

He needs to be reminded the rethuglicans (HIS PARTY) had total control of ALL three branches of government for at least six years. There's no reason why all our problems should not be solved by now and no reason why we should not be living in a Utopia. Besides, even if the decison had been made in November to improve, repair or replace that bridge the work would not have even been completed by now.

Another pack of lies from the devious and corrupt BushCo regime.

[KansDem]

71. Well, at least this time he's not blaming Saddam Hussein...(eom)

[catgirl]

72. That's what these idiots are good at...turning the tables

Laure Bitch is going to Minneapolis Friday for publicity shots. I hope there
are protests. I hope the truth is al over the news, so she squirms. How despicable.

[Vinca]

74. How many minutes before this jerk is gone from office??????

Can't he do the right thing just one time in his entire administration and just shut the fuck up, rebuild the bridge that should have been fixed 2 years ago and go his merry way? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, somehow this is the fault of Bill Clinton's appendage. :mad:

[OzarkDem]

76. Any response from Dem leaders?

Let's hope they call him on it.

Good thing they didn't get in the first shot at Bush. :sarcasm:

[ljm2002]

83. We do need to remember...

...this is part of their "best defense is a good offense" style. And it has worked very well for them. Because this is how they get out in front of it right away -- start out with a good fingerpoint, put the other guys on defensive. With the mighty wurlitzer aiding and abetting, this has been a winning strategy.

The good part is this is an indication that they *know* they are vulnerable on this issue. Otherwise he would *not* have come out swinging. So this is our clue that we need to press on this issue until they squawk.

No need, when pressing the issue, to respond to Bush's ridiculous fingerpoint. Just lay the facts out: how much the tax cuts took away, how much the billions spent in Iraq could have been doing for infrastructure here in the USA, things like that.

[DinahMoeHum]

84. Looks like the 'Pukes of Minnesota are gonna lose big time in 2008.

But hey, at least gay people can't get married in the state. Right?

:evilfrown:

[Nimrod2005]

92. Would love to see Al Franken kick that bastard's ass for the Senate seat!!!

Coleman mother fucker asshole scum!

[lpbk2713]

87. The music you hear in the background is GW *Nero* Bush .....

... playing a lively tune while his country falls to pieces.

[DrDan]

93. you mean the bill he threatened to veto?????

that one?


The asshole!!!!!

[Flabbergasted]

96. He can blame anyone he wants not one believes a word he says.