You've got to be kidding me - "Senators to abandon '08 e-voting paper trail mandate"

[Holly_Hobby]

WASHINGTON--Democratic senators on Wednesday made another push for banning electronic voting machines that lack paper trails, but they've backed away from doing so in time for next year's presidential election.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), the chief sponsor of a contentious bill called the Ballot Integrity Act that proposes such changes, said she fears requiring all states to employ so-called voter-verified paper records in their systems, with some primaries only six months away, "could be an invitation to chaos." Earlier this year, she called for enacting such changes by 2008.

"Pushing the date back to the 2010 elections will give us more time to reach a bipartisan consensus with voting reform advocates and local and state officials to enact a new law that provides for increased accuracy and accountability at the polls without raising the specter of creating major new errors," she said at the start of a hearing here in the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration, which she leads.

After listening to a rash of concerns about the bill's approach at Wednesday's hearing, Feinstein said it may be necessary to move any proposed deadline for a paper trail mandate "out a little farther."

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http://news.com.com/Senators%20to%20abandon%2008%20e-voting%20paper%20trail%20mandate/2100-1014_3-6198789.html?tag=st_lh

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[AndreaCG]

1. Way to lose the 2008 elections, Dianne!

[WilliamPitt]

2. Just like we lost the '06 midterms.

Wait...

[Old and In the Way]

7. yeah, but the Republicans are gaining ground this cycle.

wait..

Seriously, though, it saddens me we can't make "x"'s anymore and count pieces of paper. I wouldn't think it would take 18 months to implement that technology.

[AndreaCG]

11. Do you think the Republican dirty tricksters haven't learned from 2006 too?

[Phredicles]

18. I have heard frequently that '06 was closer than it should have been,

that there likely was funny business going on, just not enough to swing the election.

Are we that confident of building a tamper-proof margin in '08?

[John Q. Citizen]

21. Not counting Florida,.....and the missing 18000 votes, no biggie.....

[trumad]

30. Not this time...

Florida now has paper ballots.

[John Q. Citizen]

38. And the machines are still hackable without adequate audit procedures.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1490694

[bobbolink]

26. And we're doing so well with that HUGE margin in the Senate...

"Wait..."

[dorkulon]

28. You can't fix an election in Virginia by rigging Ohio.

It's apples and oranges, Will. A presidential election can be tilted via a single state with a corrupt elections apparatus. Obviously, in a district election, it doesn't work like that.

[helderheid]

39. Will, the only reason we didn't lose 2006 was because we came out to vote in overwhelming numbers.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

3. Vote ballot integrity is not really that important....

:eyes:

I swear, sometimes one feels like storming the Bastille.

[AndyA]

4. Brilliant move, Feinstein. I guess you like being in the MINORITY PARTY, huh?

Two stolen Presidential elections isn't enough for you, I guess.

The woman is a fool.

[partylessinOhio]

5. Hang out your "Repuglican" shingle, Feinstein. You are toast!

Bet you know how to hustle things up for war. Oh, yeah!

:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

6. WHY are Dems doing all these things? What's wrong with them? nt

[Individualist]

16. Complicity is what's wrong with them.

[Horse with no Name]

32. They don't really want to reveal to the country

that this government has turned into a dictatorship and the truth is is that they are really impotent.
After all, there would be no need for the ruse of Congress anymore--or their cushy paychecks, insurance and lobbyist money.
They aren't going to take the mask off the Lone Ranger. No sirree.
They don't care if WE lose, they just care if THEY lose. So they pretend.

[Cha]

8. Paper trail voting just makes

sense..that way there's no question if your vote got counted and counted for the person you meant for it to go to!

Has feinstein been in the Senate too long?

[peacebird]

9. hell - "democracy" was getting old anyhow. Dictatorship - or rigged machines that

give the desired result so the sheeple can feel happy and the corporations can still get the results they want sound just peachy!

:sarcasm:

Why not wait JUST a few more years for voter verifiable ballots? By then all the kinks in the program to guarantee "correct" results shoud be all worked out....

:grr:

[Holly_Hobby]

10. They just keep getting worse and worse

I truly don't understand. It's something else every day. I've got an eye twitch, time to think about something else for a while. ;)

[mother earth]

12. If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

I cannot believe that any sane person can feel that not fixing the problem will lead to chaos. This woman is in dire need of a reality check & anybody who believes this bunk is too.
So much for integrity at the ballot box.

This is absolutely outrageous, and that it comes from one of the Dems is astounding!!!!:grr:

[bobbolink]

13. Here's our homework... we need to know WHO's bought off, and HOW.

Seriously, it's becoming clear all this is NOT about We, The People..... this is about who they owe favors to.

WE CAN FIND THIS OUT!

This stinks so bad, and must not be buried.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

15. I believe there is an evil dick

pressuring our Reps with threats of blackmail. Just donned my :tinfoilhat: and it fits perfectly.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

20. The Dems are being bought and sold like prostitutes. If not, then what's going on? nt

[bobbolink]

22. I have to believe that, too. We deserve to know exactly what they are about,

and what their priorities are.

I certainly can't believe they are putting the nation first, or care about their constituents, except as it benefits them.

I thought I was discouraged during the Vietnam era, to find out what this country was really about.

I never thought I'd see THIS much corruption!

It's beyond measure.

[KansDem]

14. ...with some primaries only six months away, "could be an invitation to chaos."

Oh, yeah...we wouldn't want to go down that road now, would we? :sarcasm:

[bobbolink]

19. Hell no, we won't go.... down that road....

People waiting 5, 7 and more hours to vote.

Voting machines failing all tests.

Thrown elections.

Don't need no stinking chaos....

:nuke:

[lonestarnot]

17. WTF

:wtf:

[AtomicKitten]

23. Dumbasses.

Doh!

[MasonJar]

24. The states need to print out paper ballots. If they cannot afford to, the

federal government needs to give the states the money to print the ballots. How much could that cost to save democracy?

[sarcasmo]

25. The one party system strikes again.

Corporate America is the only party.

[Telly Savalas]

34. If we have a one party system, then why the need to rig elections?

[sarcasmo]

43. The party is called CWP.

Corporate WHORE Party.

[Raksha]

27. RFK Jr. once said that 95% of the Republicans are bought off...

and 75% of the Democrats. I believe him.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

36. I do too. eom

[OzarkDem]

41. Yep n/t

[Holly_Hobby]

29. Kick

[Horse with no Name]

31. Her seat is guaranteed

She doesn't give a shit about anyone else's.

[OzarkDem]

40. Not if she has a Dem challenger next primary

maybe its time.

[Skidmore]

33. It is time to abandon some of these Senators and to replace them

with others who have the interests of the citizenry at heart. Clean house.

[onethatcares]

35. gauddamm bipartisan consensus again

fuck the people, we gotta get a bipartisan consensus together. I know, let's see if dick cheeeny wants a bipartisan consensus, that's right, bipartisan consensuses have worked the past 12 yrs, just look at how our country has faired.

[Holly_Hobby]

37. Kicking one more time

[mother earth]

42. Need to kick this back up....

:kick: