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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:45 PM Original message |
Picture of I-35W prior to collapse (to get an idea what it looked like) |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. Note the rust at the critical jucntures...Vibrations from the pile drivers... |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Good point. Look at how rusted it was above the concrete block nearest |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Sandblast it, paint it, and it's good as new...right???? |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. A blowup of that part of the image... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-02-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
57. That's a pretty freaking tiny point of contact... |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-02-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Yeah, I'm thinking the main span was pushed off. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. As a person living in Pittsburgh, this makes me nervous... |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-02-07 06:02 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Homestead High Level Bridge...n/t |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-02-07 06:23 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Matter of fact, THAT one is under repair as we speak! eom |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-02-07 06:27 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I know. That's where I shop for groceries. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-02-07 06:36 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Note the similar structure...only much, much higher.... |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-02-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Interesting... only one way to pay for all this federal spending, Chimp just said |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-02-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. We can borrow money to kill people... |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. Not the most recent; the bridge has been undergoing construction for a couple months now. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. If you can find pics showing construction, please post 'em. I'd be... |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
3. Thanks for this |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. One of my friends missed falling into the river in that incident by about 30 seconds. |
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snacker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Oh my god...how terrifying for him. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Indeed, I concur with that. The one here was hit by a barge, though, so it was |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Apparently at least one hospital is extremely close, thankfully. n/t |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
5. Live radio report from Minneapolis stream |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. Thanks! n/t |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
8. Olbermann on MSNBC just said it had been inspected in the last three years. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Do you mean "hasn't been inspected" or |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. A recent inspection WAS done. It could be that something happened to |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I just found this on inspections. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. So 3 years ago, it looked like it wouldn't crap out. Why do we wait 3 years to inspect? |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Guess we have traffic, double posting. |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 11:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
47. That has been amended |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. When I worked for the MS DOT, we did yearly bridge inspections. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Olbermann mentioned a bridge collapse in Scotland that was |
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achtung_circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. He means the Tay Bridge, poor design. |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
10. Road surface is 64 feet above water. |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
11. I've never seen a bridge like that. It looks poorly designed, to this layman. n/t |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Yeah, the connectors to the pylons look tiny, tiny. n/t |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Exactly, it looks.... "underdone" imho as well, n/t |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. It looks that way to me too, and I'm an engineer. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Check this image... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. That looks like a pivoting expansion support which is fairly normal |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Everything you ever wanted to know about the bridge.... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Thanks but I think I'll pass on that 12 mb pdf for now |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-02-07 06:30 AM Response to Reply #42 |
52. Here's page 29 of the report (37 of the PDF)... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-02-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Okay thanks. That's interesting but not necessarily a smoking gun, IMO |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-02-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. I read it as what we Joe Homeowner repairmen call a Mending Plate... |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-02-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
60. One of the recommendations in the report |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-02-07 12:33 AM Response to Reply #11 |
48. I am not qualified, but that bridge looks like too much top, and not enough support... |
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Cooley Hurd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
13. Windows Live Local images link: |
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Rick Myers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
18. WCCO reporting first fataility. |
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partylessinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
19. For years we have ignored infrastructure. How many more bridges |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Sadly I think you're right and incidents like this will happen more and more. |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
33. I'm here in Minneapolis on business...The disaster area is right outside my window |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. That's terrible but I'm glad you're OK! n/t |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Thanks...there was a chance that we were going to go over that bridge today |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. . |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
36. New pic of collapsed bridge taken from closer angle to original pic |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
37. Thanks for posting that pic |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. 64 feet above the water! When I was looking at the collapse images... |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
43. Center span arch is too flat. |
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MagickMuffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. That's the way I see things as well |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. The arch beams |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-02-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
61. My husband drove that bridge twice a day every day for years until we moved out of state. |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-02-07 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
62. The Cedar Ave. Bridge (which sits next to it) looks SO MUCH MORE SOLID |
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