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Spinoza (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:33 PM Original message |
"We Do Use Books That Call Jews Apes..." |
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BayCityProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. WOW |
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BayCityProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. and of course |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. claw prints? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
45. Maybe it was lionizing rather than dehumanizing |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
65. Give me a break.. Since when are literary tropes dehumanizing? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
3. They should be put out of business for that. |
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BayCityProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. The Bush family |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Indeed they are... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. They do, but they also have strong religious protection laws, |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Nobody could seriously entertain the idea that teaching that |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. There are Christian Identity churches in this country that teach that |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. ! |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
60. "Freedom of speech and freedom of worship does not apply". .. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #60 |
73. I'm glad to see that Britain is more rational about it than we |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #60 |
76. Thank you so much for your participation |
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JacksonWest (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. Private schools are private for a reason. This is why vouchers should never happen. |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
5. I know many Americans who teach their children Arabs are "Rag Heads" and "Sand Niggers". |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. There's a big difference. This is official school curriculum |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I agree on that point. We haven't sunk to those depths yet. |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
47. What do you mean we? Whose is we? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. Did you see post 22? |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Did I comment on whether or not it is exclusive to Islam? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. You said there was a 'big difference'... which implies that idea, yes. n/t |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. I get really fed up with this implicit accusation of bigotry .. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I'm not accusing you of bigotry... |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. You are insinuating that by insisting that I qualify my remark so I |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. No, I'm really not. |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. That you don't see a difference between hate mongering |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. How is it only 'official policy' |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Its official policy in that it is part of the official curriculum of the |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Why? Look at post 10. |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Below I copied and pasted post 10. There is nothing in it that |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #61 |
74. If you can't see how the "this philosophy has a foothold |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. How is that any different |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. "Maybe not as bad as the repugs suggest... for now." |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. I also live in the South. |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #74 |
80. He is referring to the extremists. What I don't get about Muslims |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. No, no, and no. |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #81 |
89. Through my work I have contact with many Muslims from all over the |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. The statement as you quote it is no less inflammatory... |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. The statement I quote is inflammatory only if you think Islamists |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Sorry but I don't. |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Where in the documentary does it say there is imminent jihad? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. I can't watch a 48 minute video now... |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. When you have time watch the video to understand the context |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. What is the context of the "imminent jihad" they refer to? |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. "What I don't get about Muslims"..... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. it actually seems to be quite *contrary to* official policy |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. I used official in the sense that the books were part of school's |
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ConservativeDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Agreed. But it isn't formal. |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I agree with that point. |
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MrPrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Hajji's |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. No, they are called "Tangos" |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Thank you. Excellent point. There is just as much hatred being |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
40. "Thank you"... for what? For raising a totally unrelated point as an attempt to derail |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 07:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
67. Well said. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #40 |
75. Who said anything about a free pass? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. Nice Red Herring you have raised |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. I don't think they're attempting to excuse it. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. What then, if any, is the point of that kind of comment? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. To prevent ideas like the one in post 22 from gaining traction. n/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
58. Oops... I meant post 10. n/t |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. If that isn't teaching hatred I don't know what is.... |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
85. How odd that Mr Cook made no protest for the 19 years he was employed... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. how odd that you would say this |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
9. I bet they eat snickers for lunch too :) |
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brentblack (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. Just a strawman... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Nothing personal, but I'll take Zbigniew Brzezinski's opinion over yours. |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
18. >scrolling to bottom of textbook's title page |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
21. And begin the "Christians are just as bad" posts in 3...2...1 |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Don't worry |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. How is it "moral equivalency"? |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
87. No shite. |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
23. Religion |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
27. "School edits controversial books" |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Thank you for the good news! |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
64. check the reaction from members of the public |
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LaPera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
28. Get off it already...day in and day out! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Who do you want to get off what, and why? |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. He's just mad because those silly Joooos... |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
41. The King Fahd Academy? |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Hence my post #18. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
43. Disgusting. |
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ftr23532 (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
46. Here's a recent WaPo article about the political intent of the creation of Wahhabism. |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #46 |
69. Thanks for posting this . Interesting read. nt |
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Dracos (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
54. IS this same shit being taught |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
86. Obviously, you assume that it is. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
57. Is this despicable? Yes. Does it happen the world over? Yes. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Very good point. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. no, it simply is NOT "called freedom of speech" |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. A private school, receiving no public funds, they can teach whatever they wish |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I'd like to see your sources |
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Taxloss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #70 |
83. As I said below: |
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Taxloss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #57 |
82. This is not freedom of speech. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
68. sometimes it just *is* so morally equivalent |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
72. I'm not suprised |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
93. This song by The Dead Kennedys is apropos of this thread... |
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