Novak says Congress briefed ...US Special Forces are to secretly assist Turkey against Kurds PKK

[Blackhatjack]

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Novak_Bush_considering_secret_military_action_0730.html

Novak: Bush considering secret military action in Turkey

"A former aide to Vice President Dick Cheney is briefing lawmakers on Pentagon plans for secret military intervention in Turkey, Robert Novak reported Monday.

The Bush administration is considering covert military activity by U.S. Special Forces to help Turkish troops quash Kurdish guerilla fighters, who are believed to be using northern Iraq as safe-haven, according to the syndicated columnist.

Undersecretary of Defense Eric S. Edelman, a former Cheney aide, briefed lawmakers on Capitol Hill last week on the plans. The plans call for secret U.S. involvement to assist Turkish action against the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK)."

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"Members of Congress were stunned after Edelman briefed them on plans calling for U.S. Special Forces to help Turkey eliminate PKK leaders they have targeted for years, Novak reports. Edelman told the lawmakers that he was "sure of success," according to Novak, and assured them the U.S. role would be concealed and denied."

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This has all the hallmarks of a major catastrophe. And you can count on our participation being secret and deniable. AFter all, Novak just told us --but we won't tell anybody, right?

The US has betrayed the Kurds numerous times, but at the present we have been supporting them.

Now their enemy(Turkey) is also our ally.

Another opportunity to put our soldiers between two warring parties, likely to make both mad with us.

[seemslikeadream]

1. "If you don't take a step, we'll go into Iraq"

http://english.sabah.com.tr/782C83DB1AEC446CB85C26D4406D6723.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1474571&mesg_id=1474571

[babylonsister]

2. Should we believe anything Novak says? nt

[SpiralHawk]

3. "We're sure of success, and you know you can 'trust' us. Smirk." - Commander AWOL

"Smirk, smirk, smirk." - Commander AWOL

[blogslut]

4. It's no secret now, Bob.

n/t

[Cerridwen]

5. How the hell is this secret if novak is spewing it all over the freaking

media?

[EFerrari]

8. I thought that was SOP for secrets?

:shrug:

[Cerridwen]

14. Oh, geez, I forgot...I'm not in the same world I was just a few years

back when we at least pretended to have a democracy and that disseminating state secrets and outing covert operatives were considered treason.

What WAS I thinking?

*sigh*

Has anyone checked Orwell's grave lately? There has to be smoke coming out of it from all the spinning he must be doing.

[John Q. Citizen]

19. It's a secret somebody wants known, and I don't mean Novak.

[EFerrari]

22. The Kurds must be getting "uppity" so Cheney had this leaked.

So like them to mess with the most stable part of the country. Firestarters. :shrug:

[JDPriestly]

27. The Kurds control a lot of the oil.

I think I heard that they had made their own deals on selling some of it -- and aren't selling it in the way the U.S. wants. I'm not sure where I heard that.

[EFerrari]

29. It must be a feeding frenzy up there. n/

[BlackHawk706867]

9. That would be my question as well! I heard this earlier on DU and thought

about that until now.... Now like you, I am wondering how the hell Novak is aware of this?

ww

[Blackhatjack]

11. Edelman did the briefing of Congress, and in all likelihood sent Novak a copy...

... of course this his how Novak keeps secrets. But let Fitzgerald show up at his door, and Novak will sing like a birdie!

[Cerridwen]

15. Not only how, but WHY does he think it's okay to spout secret

plans of U.S. military action and WHY is that not considered aiding and abetting the enemy?

[John Q. Citizen]

20. Because somebody wants this out there. Hard to say who.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

13. Novak is a traitor.

He's exempt.

:shrug:

[Cerridwen]

16. Okay, I know what you're saying, but it still hurt my head. n/t

[amandabeech]

6. If any Kurdish leader is killed, he (or she) would be a martyr.

The Turks have a Kurdish leader alive in internal exile 'cause they don't want any martyrs.

Why change?

We're in serious doo-doo.

And all for Incirlik and a supply line to Northern Iraq.

Maybe the U.S. can put a base in Armenia. That'd cause a stir.

[youngdem]

7. Next week's headline: "Ten American Soldiers killed in Attack by Kurdish rebels"

Nice going Chimp. You can't even secure the borders of the country you occupy, so you betray their friendship - your only friendship in the whole country - to stop Turkey from taking advantage of our weakness to swoop in, kill the Kurds and stick their straw into the Iraqi oil.

[mmonk]

10. The Kurds will be betrayed. They have served their pupose.

Many of our congressional reps are on the payroll of Turkey's bribe money.

[amandabeech]

12. Yes, over Armenia.

But is the White House? Or are they just looking for Kirkuk oil and a pipeline out of there.

Of course, any help to the Turks and they can forget the section that goes through any Kurdish area.

[seemslikeadream]

18. Azerbaijan probes illegal arms sales by Albania to Armenia

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=118114


http://newsblaze.com/story/20070728115541payn.nb/newsblaze/OPINIONS/Opinions.html

[Orrin_73]

17. Turkey has a problem with the pkk

and not with the kurdish leadership in iraq. The kurdish leadership betray their neighbor Turkey by allowing the pkk to stage armed attacks inside of Turkey and not stopping the pkk.

[Disturbed]

21. This is not a secret. It is a known factor by the Kurds & the

Iraqi Govt.

Guardian Unlimited
US says working with Turkey to solve PKK "problem" - 9 hours ago
The Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), which the US State Department lists as a terrorist organization, has escalated attacks on soldiers and civilians in ...

Washington Post

[Orrin_73]

23. The kurdish leadership in Iraq has secret agenda

they want to breakup Turkey and create a large kurdistan. That means Turkey's, Iran's, Iraq's and Syria's borders have to change and millions of people have to re-locate, something like the balkans. This wont happen without hundreds of thousands of casualties. Barzani is playing with fire.

[Party Line]

24. Sure, I'll agree that the PKK are terrorists, but...

what Turkey's army has done to both the PKK and average kurds is also terrorism. Both sides are guilty of heinous atrocities. This is yet another regional dispute that we should stay out of.

[Orrin_73]

25. I dont deny that party_line

for a true democracy to function these attacks and bombs should stop otherwise it will go on with no end.

[amandabeech]

26. Unfortunately, we're in it now.

The Kurds are our only supporters in Iraq, and I have read that the Kurdish Peshmerga who are choosing to become part of the Iraqi Army are shouldering most of the burden in central Iraq.

If we go after the PKK, who knows how many of those troops, while not PKK, may move north to defend their territory from Turkish incursions or to fight with the PKK against Turkey. We also don't know if any of the Peshmerga would turn against our troops instead of going north.

We lose if our friends fight each other, particularly in an area with oil resources and pipelines.

Anyone know if those bridges that were blown in northern Iraq recently are a prelude to war, say by keeping Kurdish or U.S. troops from central Iraq from moving north?

[ruiner4u]

28. novak is bullshitting...

C'mon, Bush briefing congress?

:sarcasm: