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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:25 PM
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What Will YOU Do When the GOP Cancels the 2008 Election?
A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION
by Harvey Wasserman & Bob Fitrakis

It is time to think about the "unthinkable." The Bush Administration has both the inclination and the power to cancel the 2008 election. The GOP strategy for another electoral theft in 2008 has taken clear shape, though we must assume there is much more we don't know.

But we must also assume that if it appears to Team Bush/Cheney/Rove that the GOP will lose the 2008 election anyway (as it lost in Ohio 2006), we cannot ignore the possibility that they would simply cancel the election. Those who think this crew will quietly walk away from power are simply not paying attention. The real question is not how or when they might do it. It's how, realistically, we can stop them.


...snip...


This carefully choreographed campaign is complemented by the widespread use of electronic voting machines. As reported by the Government Accountability Office, Princeton University, the Brennan Center, the Carter-Baker Commission, U.S. Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) and others, these machines can be easily used to flip an election. They were integral to stealing both the 2000 and 2004 elections. Efforts to make their source codes transparent, or to require a usable paper trail on a federal level, have thus far failed. A discriminatory Voter ID requirement may also serve as the gateway to a national identification card.

Overall, the GOP will have at its command even more weapons of election theft in 2008 than it did in Ohio 2004, which jumped exponentially from Florida 2000. The Rovian GOP is nothing if not tightly organized to do this with ruthless efficiency. Expect everything that was used these past two presidential elections to surface again in 2008 in far more states, with far more efficiency, and many new dirty tricks added in.

Full article here: http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/1201
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:26 PM
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1. Well, I'll definitely owe a few people ten bucks...nt
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eggman67 Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:27 PM
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4. You and me both n/t
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:27 PM
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2. Didn't we go down this road in 2004 and 2006?
This shit is nearly as regular as the "Will Gore Run?" polls.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:29 PM
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7. But, do you remember, they did float the idea of cancelling 2004
for "national security".

I hear you about the repetive fearfulness but, these guys have a track record.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/11/election.day.delay/index.html
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:33 PM
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14. Or as regular as the impending attack on Iran
just before the 2004 election, 2006 election, Christmas, Easter, New Years, Thanksgiving, etc.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 04:09 PM
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25. <<groan>> And I cannot wait for the endless "October surprise" predictions
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 04:10 PM by Buzz Clik
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:27 PM
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3. I regard it as highly unlikely. n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:28 PM
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5. I'll Jump Into The Potomac River As A Protest
...




with a life preserver...
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 04:18 PM
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26. Do you want cholera? nt
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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:28 PM
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6. Listen.
1. They WILL NEVER cancel the election.
even though...
2. If they did, NOTHING would be done to stop it.
3. Why cancel what you can so easily STEAL.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:30 PM
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9. I agree. Why cancel when you can just stage it? n/t
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:32 PM
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11. #2 and #3...exactly
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 03:34 PM by tom_paine
They will almost certainly NOT cancel the 2008 elections. It is one of the two or three things they can't do without sparking a response of some sort.
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:33 PM
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15. Well...
...answer to #3 is that they can't steal the election for George W. Bush anymore. The only option to keep the current administration in is to cancel the election.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:40 PM
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20. they don't need to keep bush in.....
...every repuke pres since ford has been a puppet for big oil and the military industrial complex. the next repuke president, if one should "win" in 2008, will be no different.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:42 PM
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22. Bush is easily replaceable
There's nothing special about Dumbya. It's the neocon infrastructure that's important.

Never heard of the concept of the "Hitlerless Reich"?
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:29 PM
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8. I don't think they would actually do it - the costs of failure would be high
But I will bet anything that it's crossed their minds and that they've already got memos, studies and game plans exploring the possibility. With this gang, it would be considered a legitimate option to explore.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:31 PM
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10. Not gonna happen
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 03:32 PM by JNelson6563
The GOP is as sick of the failure that is Team Bush as many of us are. Do you mean to tell me those enormous ego's currently vying for the GOP nomination would just lay down for that?

Never.

The real concern about Election 08 is how they intend to steal votes.

Julie
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BlackHawk706867 Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:32 PM
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12. I think long before they simply cancel the elections, they will stage..
some sort of another 9/11 and claim martial law! That to me makes more sense for the Bush Administration.

ww
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 05:27 PM
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31.  Out of all the replies I am with you on this one
This has been a topic for a while onh talk radio and some reliable sites .

Personally I don't feel after all they have done to this point they are simply going to give up and walk away because of elections .

They are in a position now of being backed against the wall as a wild rat .

They have been working at this sort of take over for decades , they had to wait for clinton to be out and they even tried to get clinton to do their bidding .

If anyone thinks there is no threat from these monsters think about what they have done with these two wars , the troops , the executive orders , Katrina , Walter Reed , the economy , the selling of weapons , The ground Zero workers and on and on .

Does this not give just a clue of how dangerous they are and what they might have done or will do , things we don;t even know yet and many we will never know the answers to .

Do you thing Rummy just vanished , what about Cheney working in the shaddows , what about Negroponte .

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:32 PM
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13. Well, they ain't getting New York. LOVE THE LEVERS!
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:34 PM
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16. Head for the Canadian Border.............
Ohhh Can-a-da..........
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BlackHawk706867 Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:36 PM
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18. I don't think you will be any safer in Canada than the US if they do...
declare martial law.

ww
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:46 PM
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24. Then I'm just traveling through Canada on my way to.........
Iceland or Greenland.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:36 PM
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17. What will you do when they don't?
I'll tell you what I'll do, head to polls bright and early in the morning.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:36 PM
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19. IF they did, I would go home and get completely snookered...
I rarely drink so the chances of my getting drunk about as likely as them canceling elections.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:42 PM
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21. The problem for the Repubs is they have no one to run for whom stealing
the election would produce a believable result. Every one of their candidates
at this point is a loser. BUT--I think the one guy who could win it has not announced AND the Dems even named him in the last debate. Hagel.

Right now, I'm not a believer the election would be canceled. They still have plenty of time to nominate a winner.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:43 PM
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23. Depends on what's on TV that night...
:sarcasm:

I don't know what I'd do...but they wouldn't dare. They wouldn't dare! :grr:
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 04:19 PM
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27. Lately I been buying guns and ammo....
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 04:50 PM
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28. One must distinguish between
The electoral ambitions of the GOP apparatus and those of the Bush Administration. The focus of the dark inner core of the rightmost wing of the Republican Party has been expansion of power at any moral cost. Stealing an election by rigging voting machines would be consistent with other strategies like voter disenfranchisement. Funny. Only a couple of years ago, Republican strategists were boasting of an impending generational majority. Now, they are desperately struggling for political survival. That desperation will make vote manipulation more acceptable to more members of the GOP apparatus.

However, the objectives of the Bush/Cheney cabal may be quite different, and may well revolve around uprooting the process entirely. It seems to me that certain mechanisms have been put in place which could facilitate an eventual usurpation of the Constitution. Bush has moved enough in those directions that reasonable people are forced to speculate as to the nature of his motives and his long term plans. The unspoken question is now being asked openly around the water coolers of the nation ... will Bush really relinquish power in January 2009?

The interests of the GOP and President Bush have been divergent for a while now. We cannot assume that their objectives are same.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 05:08 PM
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29. I'll thank Nancy for taking impeachment off the table.
And I'll thank all those Democrats who didn't want to "divide the nation" by such awful proceedings. They are going to get the shittiest spot when we are all in the camps. We'll make sure of it.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 05:10 PM
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30. My ass will be on the road to Washington with whatever equipment I can muster. n/t
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 05:30 PM
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32. I look at the grab for more power with 18 months to go and a below 30% approval rate and I ask
why work so hard to turn power over to someone else most likely a Dem?


I think there will be an attempt to remain in power by this administration. Cheney doesn't give a damn about anyone or anything.
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 03:17 PM
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33. kick
:kick:
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