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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 09:56 AM
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Austrian police uncover global child porn ring
Austrian police uncover global child porn ring

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17022345/

More than 2,360 suspects from 77 countries involved, authorities say

Updated: 1 hour, 48 minutes ago

VIENNA, Austria -

Austrian authorities said Wednesday they have uncovered a major international child pornography ring involving more than 2,360 suspects from 77 countries, including hundreds in the United States, who paid to view videos of young children being sexually abused.

The children were under the age of 14 and screams could be heard, said Harald Gremel, an Austrian police expert on Internet crime who headed the investigation.

Interior Minister Guenther Platter said the FBI was investigating about 600 of the suspects in the United States. German authorities were following leads on another 400 people, France was looking into about 100 others, and at least 23 suspects were Austrians, he said.

Platter said videos downloaded from the Internet and seized by Austria’s Federal Criminal Investigations Bureau included images that showed “the worst kind of child sexual abuse.”

Gremel said “girls could be seen being raped, and you could also hear screams.” Although officials initially said the children ranged in ages from “0 to 14,” Gremel later said no infants were seen in the videos.

No Austrian suspects were yet in custody, authorities said, adding that they shared their information with law enforcement in other countries in hopes that suspects could be investigated and charged. Gremel said he could not provide details about investigations outside Austria, but noted that cooperation with Russian authorities had intensified over the past two weeks.

More at link...

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"“girls could be seen being raped, and you could also hear screams..."
:grr: :puke:
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:01 AM
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1. SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK
SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:06 AM
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2. Perhaps the sicko's who make these videos and the sicko's who..
download them will get a taste of their own medicine by being raped in prison.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:09 AM
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3. Nevermind
the video's!!!!! That's fucking bad enough but

What about raping age 0 - 14 year old girls?????? :grr:

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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:13 AM
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5. They did mention in the article that no infants were seen....
in the videos, thank goodness. But it is just as bad for the other children, no matter what age.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:12 AM
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4. Are these tied to the neo-nazi pedophiles we've heard about recently?
I wouldn't be surprised.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:20 PM
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16. there's a reason why racists avoid talking about pedophilia...
The white supremacists who normally love to harp on the topic of race and crime tend to fall silent when the discussion turns to kiddie porn, child molestation, and child rape. That is because the data suggest that pedophiles are disproportionately white.

http://www.cybertipline.com/en_US/publications/NC144.pdf
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:25 PM
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17. Wow. 91% were white (of those arrested). I wonder why that is. - n/t
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:53 PM
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19. I'm sure it's a multifactorial phenomenon not reducible to a function of biological "race"...
Of course, I do not believe that there is a White Pedo Gene, any more than there is a Black Crack Dealer Gene.

But I do think that pointing out the disproportionate whiteness of the kiddie porn people can help to complicate matters for those who are inclined to post invidious comparisons of whites and white social behavior (always normalized, or even idealized) and others (usually black, and always pathologized or even vilified).
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 01:01 PM
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20. Of course it isn't any single factor, it's just strange, given the disproportionate...
...number of minorities who are arrested and convicted of crimes that the vast majority of those arrested for pedophilia-related crime were actually white. I wonder how much of this has to do with what crimes are reported, etc.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 04:00 PM
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21. yes, and it's especially interesting given the higher overall contact with law enforcement...
... that characterizes life for many minority communities.

If all those drug raids, pat downs, Driving-While-Black traffic stops, and the like were netting child porn, it would go in the books with the other indictments. But the police aren't finding such things in those kinds of situations. Which strongly suggests -- I think -- that the apparent difference in the prevalence of pedophilia between the black and white populations isn't just apparent: it's real.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 04:13 PM
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23. Good point, and a scary one. - n/t
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:13 AM
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6. A lot of Republican's will be sweating when they hear this.
Be afraid GOP! Be very afraid.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:14 AM
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7. Once again, America leads the world. 600 suspects in the U.S.
:puke:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:16 AM
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8. It's disgusting and pathetic!
600 + , I'm sure... cripes! :grr:
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:04 AM
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9. that's really more a function of having a large population plus high internet access...
For instance, Germany contributed about 400 suspects -- which is proportionally more than the 600 from the United States.

(For what it's worth...)
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:06 AM
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10. How do you know it was "just" on the internet?
:shrug:

Seems to me that there were individuals directly involved from all over.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:33 PM
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18. this particular bust was focused on internet activity, according to the article...
Of course, the creation of such images involves the filming of the sexual abuse of real live children, and some of these people must have done such things. But most of the 2,360 current suspects appear to have downloaded, viewed, and traded the illegal images (it's apparently not yet known what percentage of the suspects were involved in the actual production of these materials).


I'm sure it will all come to light. Combatting child pornography is a priority for our government, and for many other governments.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:25 AM
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13. You have a point.
But it's still a shocking number. I would like to know who these demons are.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:18 AM
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11. Excuse me - but it looks like the Germans are the worst in this article.
Edited on Wed Feb-07-07 11:28 AM by Rosemary2205
I'll grant you 600 in the US is way too many and you can bet your socks it's a lot more than that in reality. But THIS article says

600 in the US - out of 300 million people.

400 in Germany - out of 85 million people.



I'm just sayin..........
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:20 AM
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12. 1 is to many....
Good catch though. ;)
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:30 AM
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14. I'm going to have to change my sig line.
I have trouble typing and it's getting so bad with typos that I just can't make fun of "moran" anymore when I'm over here typing "to" instead of "too". Thanks for pointing it out without being rude!

LOL :)
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:51 AM
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15. No, I meant
Edited on Wed Feb-07-07 11:52 AM by Breeze54
one kid being raped is to many!!

Your typing is fine and so is your sig pic!! :rofl:

:hi:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 04:02 PM
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22. This makes my blood boil
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 04:19 PM
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24. Gross.
Child sex abuse has probably been around since prehistoric times, except back then it was more hidden and secret. At least now, there is a greater chance of catching the predators.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 04:19 PM
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25. This planet is so fugging sick that
I'm ready to jump off.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 04:25 PM
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26. It's the Free Market taken to the extreme.
Child pornography, drugs, guns, prostitutes - they're not good for people, but it's what they really want. And without legal restraints on the market, or moral restraints imposed by other institutions, this is what sells.
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