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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 12:57 PM Original message |
I support impeachment, but I do not support the tactics used by some to promote it. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. Rational and realistic. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. LOL |
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BridgeTheGap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
2. Stopping the "death and destruction" |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Indeed, thus the need for investigations and testimony. |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
116. No it won't. |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
3. Thank you for your concern. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Thanks for your polite response. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Yes |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Thank you |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm trying to help paddle that canoe with you. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Thanks Jackpinerad. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
9. K and R |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. The art of a politician is to make us look irrational |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. That would be difficult to accomplish with a bipartisan movement. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Is one grandstanding when they approach someone |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Not if they approach this person in a thoughtful manner, however that was not the case |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. We'll leave that to interpretation. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I understand the "anger" |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
86. YHO is wrong |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. I don't agree that what has happened is thoughtful. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #91 |
100. Maybe I didn't make myself clear |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. I have confidence in John Conyers, not to "tell" others what he plans to do, but to do it. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. I sincerely hope your confidence is not misplaced |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. It isn't. |
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Vilis Veritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #100 |
158. Could it be that the leadership was trying to figure out how to |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
18. I don't like all of the tactics either |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I object to the harsh attacks on Conyers as well. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
47. Indeed, I don't like seeing either one. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
19. reminds me of a sermon I heard once, where satan tells us everything in the bible |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Yeah, except that's not what I said. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. well, actually it IS sort of what you said... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I'm not accusing YOU of anything. And, regarding "what I said" |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
21. I had been |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I agree. |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
53. Your post gave me goosebumps just thinking about how |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. I miss him so |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. We should trust in the Power of Ideas... |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
59. We waste time and energy quibbling |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Right. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #63 |
155. "sincere/ not aware/ limited grasp/ want to "control" conversations and limit/ foolishness/ wrong" |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
23. I'm an impeachment hawk and I K&R this message |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. LOL |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
45. I consider myself an Impeachment hawk too.. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
26. I don't like the message being spread about Conyers now, |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. "Jr. High," |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
28. Impeachment is not a recent fad with Conyers. He was in there pitching, |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. That's right. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
30. Grassroots movements usually don't have choreographers. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Indeed, and successful movements need thoughtful leadership. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
31. Hero-worship and absolutist positions on impeachment make some smart people look ridiculous |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Thank you for the |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. What you are calling "absolutist" can also be called "commitment." |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. Maybe that's where things broke down.. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. I think people are tired. As homely as that sounds, tired people |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
117. Those that wait to take their cues from politicians to form their opinions |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #117 |
131. No, they don't. And I'm much too old to trust politicians |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:13 AM Response to Reply #131 |
147. "No American, young |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. that applies to both sides of the recent flap |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Agreed, there's plenty of hypocrisy to go around... |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
35. Did I make the half-hour deadline? You make a good point. n/t |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. 1/2 hour on DU has turned into double. |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. :) |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
40. We're just "concern trolls" now. |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
41. Thanks mzmolly..I'm on your side here.. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
62. Excellent points once again Virginia Dare. |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
42. Then why does Conyers do this bait and switch routine? |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. "Let's take these two guys out".. |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Political rhetoric... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. I don't think that impeachment will be a "quick derailment." |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Yeah, but good golly, mzmolly... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. I think we've stopped the "doom" by electing Democrats. |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #74 |
153. I'm glad you're feeling less threatened, and... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #153 |
167. What an interesting post Warren Pease, |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #55 |
114. He closed the door on impeachment on Monday |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #114 |
120. He closed the door on being openly bullied into a time frame and a statement on the record. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #120 |
137. Yes he could have trusted themto stfu about it |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. Had they not announced it before hand, I might feel that way. |
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TheOtherMaven (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 11:14 PM Response to Reply #120 |
142. Starving tigers |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #142 |
143. LOL, "starving and vocal tigers." |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
113. I think the "two guys" Conyers was talking about |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
48. Thanks Molly |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
50. Agreed. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #50 |
104. Yes. |
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Silver Gaia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
51. K & R. Thanks, mzmolly. n/t |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
52. I had to come back to recommend! |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
54. I support democracy, but I do not support the tactics used by some to destroy it. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
58. Thank you MZMOLLY! NT |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
60. I support impeachment, but I do not |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
61. mzmolly, with all due respect (and I do respect you, in fact i like you and your posts) |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. John, I like you too. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. My point wasn't that Cindy and MLK are equivalent. My point was that they |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. I don't think Cindy's "impeach by X or else" was particularilly peaceful. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #75 |
90. or what? she'll do something violent? LOL?!? You got nothing, so you hint at darkness... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Hint at darkness? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. like the clubs she was trying to convince conyers to use, LOL... or running for office |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #94 |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. just because i busted you for fear mongering against peace activists you have to call names? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. Bettyellen |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #107 |
119. you should have maybe actually adressed my post- how your tactic was Nixonian as |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. What's funny is that you were "insulted" by my comments and at the same time you liken me to Nixon |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #121 |
124. i comment on your statements, you made a personal insult. and you avoid dealing with my post again |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Geeze if this is being "called out" I'm in great shape, thanks. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #125 |
127. LOL, avoid actually adressing your gaffe at all costs, O Lielly taught you well!! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. Well perhaps you can post my gaffe in a reponse, and then I'll address it? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #121 |
129. and BTW Nixon;s people invented this "violent war protester" meme you've promoted here |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Where did I say violent war protester? What I said was that MLK was insulted for |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 11:11 PM Response to Reply #130 |
140. Doh! who asked Conyers to use "clubs, violence and threats" ?!?! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 11:14 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. I addressed that when I said it was an analogy, remember? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 06:51 AM Response to Reply #141 |
146. hyperbole? slander? yes....look up analogy, and own up to your BS |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #146 |
148. "Analogy" defined |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #148 |
162. so peaceful protest is just like violence according to you. it's a bit twisted. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #162 |
164. No, demanding Conyers impeach today or else, is akin to telling MLK how to protest. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #164 |
169. actually no... you didn;t mention MLK, you mentioned pressure to get violent, using clubs |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #169 |
173. I did mention MLK, it's not a matter of 'trying' here is my EXACT QUOTE. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. who asked Conyers to use "clubs, violence and threats" ?!?! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Conyers refuses to change his methods of seeking justice. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. it's actually very misleading if you ask me. no one asked for those specific tactics did they? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Totally ridiculous. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. no you're framing the argument exactly like Bill O Reilley does... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Gosh, so we agree. Smearing John Conyers and making threats against Pelosi |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. the threat to run in a race is a non violent protest, deal with it honestly for a change |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Oh, so she's not serious about winning, it's all about "protest?" |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. doing the right thing matters to some people, not so much to you, not so much to many Dems |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. I believe I stated above that doing the right thing is important? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. so important that maybe we shouldn;t even try, yes, I know that's where we disagree. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #102 |
110. This post proves you did not read my OP. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #110 |
118. you said "if" we move to impeach. for many it's a moral imperative and you refuse to see it. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Here's what else I said: |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #92 |
150. bettyellen, you know where you will be in september |
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Anita Garcia (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #150 |
156. ding, ding, dong! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #150 |
165. You mean she'll be marching with "Go Cindy" signs |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #165 |
170. and your signs will say, "No Hurry, We can Wash the Blood off my Hands" like, whenever ... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #170 |
174. And your's will say "I confuse impeachment with ending blood shed." |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #174 |
178. the issues are intwined for many, because it is only bush that wants to stay in iraq |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #178 |
180. If it's only Bush than my point about September is not moot is it? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #180 |
184. except that confusing impeachment with something more popular- ending the war- |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. The public is interested in ending the war, more than they are in impeachment at this time. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #186 |
187. bingo. that's what i said. but the issues are very intewined, and there's no rational |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #187 |
188. The reasons for wanting impeachment are not to be confused with what it will accomplish. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #188 |
189. .... what it SHOULD set in motion IS an end to the war- unless the Dems want it |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #189 |
190. No one has explained how impeachment leads to an end to the war. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. Most Excellent Post |
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Anita Garcia (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
67. I think you have a "thing" for successful grand standers |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #67 |
79. I start lots of threads about Cindy and impeachment? I've started about three threads in two months |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #79 |
115. Not one of your hot topics for discussion then only fucking 3? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #115 |
123. Uhm |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #67 |
151. Excellent observations! |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
70. I support evicting republicans, |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Mine is just saving the constitution. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. You make a good point. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Agreed, and that's a point I attempted to make above. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Point taken. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Thanks L |
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Phredicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
77. I do worry that there's too much deliberateness and not enough speed in |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. Thanks, I understand that worry. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
88. Spoken like a true member of the party of slavery. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #88 |
99. LOL |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
105. OK -- I'll accept this theory of what's going on -- let's see how it holds up . .. . |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #105 |
111. I don't think my post was loaded with animosity for Cindy Sheehan? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #111 |
126. You're either with her or against her, to a certain sect. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #126 |
133. I'm coming to that conclusion. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
108. You've been a voice of calm and reason |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. Thanks, that's VERY kind. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
132. I don't think people like explanations by the impeachment crowd. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. I'm not offended mmonk, |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #134 |
135. As always. |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
136. ZombyKicked |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #136 |
139. Thanks. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
144. Adding this to the record. The impeach NOW crowd would settle for no less than NOW. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 04:36 AM Response to Original message |
145. Have we handed the media take a convenient "out?" |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #145 |
149. Not if Conyers pulls the dirty laundry out of the closet so the stench is |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
152. IMPEACH NOW!! |
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Anita Garcia (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #152 |
157. Careful |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. I'm one of 'these people' who cannot wait for impeachment. |
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Anita Garcia (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. I'm with you. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. Our soldiers can't wait either |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #161 |
168. Again, someone wrongly equates impeachment with ending the war. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #168 |
171. Wow, look ... so many people doing that and not wanting to wait on Republicans or Fox News for cues |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:31 PM Response to Reply #171 |
172. Ah so "impeachment" does not equal betrayal, but voting to end an unpopular war |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #172 |
176. either one is a betrayal of such magnitude the SS Bush needs to be half sunken before them rats |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #176 |
177. " the SS Bush needs to be half sunken before them rats will jump off" |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #177 |
179. You have fun waiting on the Repbnlicans to do our dirty work, it's a lovely fantasy if nothing else. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #179 |
181. This from a person who claims impeachment will end the war. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. better than waiting for republicans to abandon Bush first , LOL. That's a strategy alright.... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #183 |
185. The Republicans have to help deliver the troops out of Iraq if they like their jobs. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #159 |
163. "These people" who understand what's at stake |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
154. By any means necessary. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #154 |
166. Trying here in the district and won't give up. n/t |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
175. Your serious discussion includes your insane bullshit about Cindy Sheehan? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #175 |
182. What insane bullshit do you take issue with, exactly? |
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