Does crying wolf hurt a cause?

[Darkhawk32]

If one sees a boogeyman about every issue, no matter if it's political or cultural, does it affect the overall message?

And if someone does see that same boogeyman, does that person automatically become your enemy? (Even if that person believes in those same causes.)

[orpupilofnature57]

1. WAH ?

[uppityperson]

2. Try this

Do not post "flame bait" discussion topics. While there is no clear line regarding what constitutes flame bait, the moderators have the authority to shut down threads which they consider too rhetorically hot, too divisive, too extreme, or too inflammatory. Please use good judgment when starting threads; inflammatory rhetoric does not normally lead to productive discussion.

Do not start a new topic in order to continue a flame war from another discussion thread.

Do not talk negatively about an individual in a thread where they are not participating. Do not post messages with the purpose of "calling out" another member or picking a fight with another member.

[ThomCat]

9. LOL! Got it in 1 try!

:rofl:

[verse18]

3. I reject the premise of this post

Nobody is crying wolf. Your agenda with this OP is paper thin.

[JackBeck]

4. Why don't you ask Judy Shepard?

"I am outraged that Mars, the NFL and these players would promote such an anti-gay message. This campaign encourages the same type of hate that led to the death of my son Matthew. It essentially gives 'permission' to our society to verbally or physically harass individuals who are gay, lesbian or bisexual," said Judy Shepard, Executive Director of the Matthew Shepard Foundation. "In particular, I am dismayed that these players, who are role models to our young people, would participate in perpetuating such discrimination and prejudice."

http://www.matthewshepard.org/site/PageServer?pagename=Press_Media_PR_NFL_COMMERCIAL_020507

[LeftyMom]

5. We need to advocate for better mental health care in this country.

Just sayin'. :shrug:

[JackBeck]

6. I love you, LeftyMom.

Biggest laugh I've had all day.

[LeftyMom]

17. I try.

:*

[ThomCat]

11. Has anyone told you today

that you're just an amazing person?
:hug:

[LeftyMom]

13. Awww.

:hug:

[LostinVA]

14. Yup, I agree

[Midlodemocrat]

47. LM. Some folks can't be helped even with Big Pharma pushing the drugs.

[niyad]

7. would you care to give us a clue as to what in the HELL you are talking about? there is no possible

way to have a discussion, since there is no clue as to what you mean.

if, as another poster indicated, this is some sort of carry-over from another discussion, it might occur to you to realize that people may not have been privy to that discussion.

if you are simply out to cause trouble, go do it someplace else--like freeperville, perhaps.

[blonndee]

10. I think it's a continuation of this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=140257&mesg_id=141618

[ThomCat]

15. And this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=141226&mesg_id=141226

And at least one or two others.

It's a long running flame fest at this point. He refused to stop.

[bliss_eternal]

29. ...ah, the plot thickens.

:popcorn:

[bliss_eternal]

19. (gasp)....

You mean this is a continuation of...(cue scary music) another thread discussion?

(hehehe) Thanks, blonndee! :hi:

[blonndee]

21. LOL

I try. ;-)

[LeftyMom]

22. Sirens fill the air as the ModSignal lights up the skies.

Whatever you do, keep the line free on the red phone, we'll need it to summon help. :rofl:

[bliss_eternal]

25. You DID send up the signal, didn't you?

:rofl:

[blonndee]

26. Man

I've spent WAY too much time here today, but you just made it all worthwhile. :rofl:

[bliss_eternal]

30. ....!

;) :hug: We've all had those kind of days here.

[LeftyMom]

32. Happy to be of service. ma'am

/me tips non-existent hat.

[bliss_eternal]

8. Is this written in code....?

..."crying wolf"? ..."boogeyman"? Is this the fairy tale hour or DU? :shrug:

Difficult to address issues when it's unclear exactly what you're talking about. :)

[LostinVA]

12. As I said earlier today: read the DU rules

You are breaking at least two of them.

[Darkhawk32]

16. Which ones? Please elaborate.

[bliss_eternal]

23. Specifically...

based on the information that you posted in another thread, given the topic of that thread and your comments here--these rules:

Do not post "flame bait" discussion topics. While there is no clear line regarding what constitutes flame bait, the moderators have the authority to shut down threads which they consider too rhetorically hot, too divisive, too extreme, or too inflammatory. Please use good judgment when starting threads; inflammatory rhetoric does not normally lead to productive discussion.

Do not start a new topic in order to continue a flame war from another discussion thread.

Do not talk negatively about an individual in a thread where they are not participating. Do not post messages with the purpose of "calling out" another member or picking a fight with another member.


Does that help? :) :hi:

[Darkhawk32]

27. Frankly, this thread has done none of these things. n/t

[bliss_eternal]

33. Really...?

Are you reading a different thread? Or are you just being coy? Gawd, how cute!

;)

[Darkhawk32]

40. Who did I call out? Does this address a particular cause or subject? n/t

[bliss_eternal]

49. You're SO cute when you're coy...

silly boy, surely you see the OTHER parts of the rules that DO apply to you. ;)

[uppityperson]

28. These

Do not post "flame bait" discussion topics. While there is no clear line regarding what constitutes flame bait, the moderators have the authority to shut down threads which they consider too rhetorically hot, too divisive, too extreme, or too inflammatory. Please use good judgment when starting threads; inflammatory rhetoric does not normally lead to productive discussion.

Do not start a new topic in order to continue a flame war from another discussion thread.

Do not talk negatively about an individual in a thread where they are not participating. Do not post messages with the purpose of "calling out" another member or picking a fight with another member.

[cboy4]

18. I don't think Mr. Conyers would approve of your strange tactics.

[bliss_eternal]

38. Can I have some...?

lol. I'm almost out. ;)

[treestar]

20. Yes it definitely does

Some terms are losing their awfulness. It's like calling someone anti-Semitic for arguing the Israelis were wrong to bomb Lebanon or wrong to make settlements in the Occupied Territories. If that's anti-Semitic, there's a lot of anti-Semitism around. What were the Nazis then? Real Anti-Semites? Big or Super Duper Anti-Semites? It trivializes the suffering of the people who suffered from the serious version.

It's just name calling in a twisted, reverse sort of way.

I also get tired of the "My group is the most victimized" approach.

[ThomCat]

39. "my group is the most victimized"

Funny, I have yet to see that game here at DU.

One of the good things I tend to see here, is people here tend to cross from one cause to another. Feminists support the anti-racists, support the GLBT rights people, support the people for indiginous people's rights, etc.

[blonndee]

54. Very true. And it also seems like it

works the other way. The dismissal of the importance of these causes and the people associated with them seems to come from the same group of people, generally. My eyes have definitely been opened over the last couple of weeks.

[Sapere aude]

24. I get what you are trying to say I think. The sky is falling! the shy is falling.

then when it really begins to fall no one will pay attention.

If you try to use some common sense around here and it isn't PC enough for DU you will get slammed for being you.

There are subjects on this board that you must conform to the majority belief or you are less than you should be.


Screw them and be yourself I say.

[verse18]

31. So pointing out bigotry, homophobia, racism and prejudice

is crying wolf? What planet is this?

[Darkhawk32]

35. When there is cause for it, of course not. But when there's not, it is.

[ThomCat]

41. And you're the judge of when something is prejudiced?

God help us all! :eyes:

[Darkhawk32]

44. And you are? Oh God. I wouldn't leave my bed ever.

[ThomCat]

46. Is that a promise?

:P

[Darkhawk32]

48. Luckily, you don't decide.

[bliss_eternal]

42. Riddle me this, or riddle me that...

who's afraid of a big, bad cat?

[ThomCat]

43. LOL!

:rofl:

[verse18]

45. And who is to say where that cause is and when is it appropriate?

You?

[Darkhawk32]

52. No. Never said that. But everyone has an opinion as to what is appropriate and some cases

are universally obvious and must be taken action against when seen.

[Sapere aude]

36. You are not the definer of things. You point out what you think is

bigotry, homophobia, racism and prejudice as seen through your paradigm. That does not make it bigotry, homophobia, racism and prejudice.

This gets carried to the extreme I think. People get bullied because they don't agree with the majority. Well some of us won't be intimidated.

[Darkhawk32]

37. In some cases, people get bullied by the minority as well. n/t

[Sapere aude]

58. True but at DU it is the majority opinion that beats up on the minority.

My numbers don't show it but I have been here almost from the inception of DU. There are many issues here where there is a majority opinion and if you don't happen to agree with it you are labeled and bullied. It's been happening here for the last 6 years.

One good example was posted above. You cannot be anti Israel here or you are anti Semitic. You can't see that the Palestinians have a just gripe.

[bliss_eternal]

57. Said like one that ISN'T in a position to be discriminated against...

...:)

Go figure.

[MrSlayer]

34. Sure. It takes away from genuine cases of whatever.

Makes real boogeymen seem less important.

[Solly Mack]

50. This is a continuation of a sub-thread that was deleted from another thread

and I should know since the very same statement in the OP, "crying wolf", was your response to me on the deleted sub-thread from the other thread.

I "get" that you *feel* you've been unfairly labeled a bigot...and doesn't it just suck to feel that way? You *feel* the need to explain yourself. You *feel* the need to speak of your experiences. You *feel* the need to have people understand your point of view.

Shame you don't *feel* the need to give to others the very thing you want for yourself

[ThomCat]

53. That is the single best post on this thread.

:applause:

[uppityperson]

55. Excellent summary.

[Darkhawk32]

56. This isn't the Gay and Lesbian forum. It's the General Forum, which means it's open to anybody....

I have a right to express my "feelings" as I wish to.

It's not a direct reference to that thread, but it's an overall discussion that could universally discussed with many subjects... homophobia, racism, 9/11, etc.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

51. the snickers bar is not EVERY issue. its one issue.

and no just because you didnt see the homophobia in it doesnt make you the enemy,

it makes you asshole however if you ask gay people who were offended to 'simmer down' as though they were children getting upset at not receiving a candy bar.

[wakemeupwhenitsover]

59. I'm going to lock this.

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Do not start a new topic in order to continue a flame war from another discussion thread.

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