So WHAT IS IT? Inherent Contempt Or Statutory Contempt- DAMN

[kpete]

Kpete-Well Sorry-Just Called & Told Statutory Contempt-DAMN!!!(Conyer Staff Member)- Pisses me off because Conyers said Inherent Contempt on Friday - SO WHAT IS IT???



Inherent Contempt! Can it be So?
by gchaucer2
Mon Jul 23, 2007

Can it possibly be true?? A commenter at TPMMuckraker has provided the following regarding contempt citations against Harriet Miers and Josh Bolton:

I just got off the phone with the Judiciary committee staff, and they clarified that it will be inherent contempt they're voting on... not statutory.

I had the phone answerer go and speak with someone who actually knew, and he came back to the phone about 5 min. later confirming.


snip
Please call them to confirm, but it's a go! Judiciary Committee: [phone]

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003746.php

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/23/123745/726



kpete: at the San Diego Meeting, Conyers said - it was his INTENT to go for Inherent Contempt.

[Bill219]

1. I so hope that this is true

It is time to stop this madness which is the Bush Administration

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

2. OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE

:bounce:

[zabet]

3. Please say it is so! n/t

[Jackpine Radical]

4. That link is to Daily Kos. What gives?

Anyway, it was a bit of serendipity--the Kos story on Tobin was interesting in and of itself.

[kpete]

6. sorry

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/23/123745/726

[annabanana]

5. The guy who answered the phone confirmed that

they are considering it.
He does not know if the sargent-at-arms is "armed"
He checked about the existence of a "holding facility" in the Capitol building. . .
and said there isn't one...


on edit.. I said that if they FOUND a holding facility, I was all for it.. I also suggested the room where the last Congress made Conyers hold the Downing St. Memo hearings would also be suitable.

[Cooley Hurd]

7. Holy shit!

The animals in the Exec are being backed into a corner - get ready for one hell of a civics lesson!:wow:

[havocmom]

10. They can cuff them to heavy furniture or banisters

:rofl: at thought of junta flunkies tethered to fixtures all over the Capitol Building.

Bring it on! Oh yes!

[annabanana]

13. It IS a pretty picture isn't it..... .n/t

[havocmom]

33. Oh, I dunno. I could get into a little bondage & discipline for the junta flunkies

:evilgrin:

[KansDem]

37. Or 'cuff them in groups of six...

They would have to walk slowly and methodically, but wouldn't that be a sight!

[wayupnorth]

32. Holding facility

Was just going to say that when my son worked for a Democratic Senator who had been there many, many years, we had a special tour. There was (at that time, about 20 years ago) a holding facility in the catacombs - great place to keep them, if I do say so.

[rucky]

8. Frog March! n/t

[Canuckistanian]

9. Who is this commenter Gioele?

Is this a reliable source?

[kpete]

11. Don't know

but I HEARD Conyers Say With My Own Ears On Friday That His Intent was Inherent Contempt - so...kp

[Canuckistanian]

28. Good.

That must have been awesome to hear.

[dkofos]

12. Still just a maybe, but this is better news than I expected today!!

[emlev]

14. Where's the best basic explanation of inherent contempt?

[hisownpetard]

29. Wikipedia, for starters n/t

[TahitiNut]

39. Here's a primer ...

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/TahitiNut/397

[Richard Steele]

15. EDIT- sorry to hear it now. What a disappointment. nm

[Javaman]

16. I'm so holding my breath. color me jaded.

proof is in the pudding. I will believe it when it happens.

(could I possible use an more euphemisms? lol)

[aquart]

21. I'm not sure about holding it. But something stopped for a second.

My breath? My heart?

[Individualist]

25. You're not the only one who's jaded

I so very much want to believe that an action is finally going to be taken against the cabal but, like you, I'll believe it when it happens.

[in_cog_ni_to]

17. WOOHOO!!!!!! YES! YES! YES!!!!

AWESOME!

[wundermaus]

18. The Fascists will not stand for Justice...

They will nullify the law and throw Conyers in jail. The executive branch is now in full control, and any attempt to limit it will be eliminated. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Get ready for your civics lesson. - take notes.

[Blaze Diem]

23. My thoughts exactly...Bush has already prepared for this possibility

I have no doubt that he & Rove et al have the whole thing under (their) control. A mere swish of the Presidential pen, and Congress is stopped in their tracks.

Perhaps Congress should have heeded OUR warnings before Bush got this far.

Bush will NEVER allow his power to be diminished.
Geez guys, I would like to believe I am wrong on this thinking, but we have known since George ran for president in 2000 that something worthy of concern was taking place.

I really do fear for our America, today.

I am hoping with all the faith I can muster, at this point, that John Conyers holds four beautiful Aces because the deck has clearly been stacked against this once & fine Nation.

thanks
Blaze

[bonito]

19. Yes!!!

:bounce:

[loudsue]

20. Doin' the HAPPY DANCE!!!

:applause: :bounce: :woohoo: :applause:

K & R

:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:

[bdamomma]

22. this regime's ignorance towards the law, will bite them on the ass.

[Bitwit1234]

24. HOT DAMN bush can't fluff this one off he has absolutely positively

no authority.........oh joy who gave the dems a spine.

[Guaranteed]

26. Even if it's just statutory contempt, they can always pull out the

inherent contempt later. It's a better process to let them pull their "our cronies won't enforce it" excuse.

[hisownpetard]

27. Called and told the nice young man that I wanted to

register my vote for 'Inherent Contempt'.
He said, "Yes, Ma'am, thank you for calling and I will pass it along."
It felt so good, I did a little dance. Please, dear God, please, pleeeeeese -
I am SO hoping for handcuffs...

[senseandsensibility]

30. Do you have Conyer's phone number?

Thanks.:)

[hisownpetard]

34. I called the # for the Judiciary Committee, which is:

[phone]

[senseandsensibility]

36. Thanks

:)

[Beetwasher]

31. It's Possible The Dems Are PURPOSELY Sending Mixed Signals

So as to not tip their hand.

I would love if they would go straight to IC, but I would understand and support them if they end up going w/ statutory, knowing of course that IC would be next when the WH refuses to comply.

[Javaman]

35. so this is like a congressional CT? ;) LOL nt

[Beetwasher]

40. Actually, It's Just Politics

Politics IS conspiracy. Or didn't you realize that?

[Karenina]

38. I was excited on Saturday

waiting for MONDAY to arrive. And now, just more Bread and Circuses... x(

[yodermon]

41. Isn't Statutory contempt better to start with?

Then when shrub immediately orders the DOJ to NOT seek an indictment from the GJ, we can whip out Inherent Contempt, AND with another impeachable offense to boot (and a very easily understandable one at that: the potus is ordering his doj to NOT enforce the law, and is obstructing justice in the process. qed.)

I'm fine with whatever route they decide, as long as they... decide.