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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:17 AM
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Bruce Fein questions Bush's executive order inclusion of US citizens

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/22/AR2007072201141.html

Destabilizing Iraq, Broadly Defined

By Walter Pincus
Monday, July 23, 2007; Page A15


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The executive order, released Tuesday, was designed to target "perpetrators of violence in Iraq including Shiite militia groups linked to Iran, Sunni insurgent groups with sanctuary in Syria, and other indigenous Iraqi insurgent groups," said Molly Millerwise, a spokeswoman for the Treasury Department, which will determine who is in violation of the order. The move follows similar Bush orders to freeze assets of members or associates of al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups and former Iraqi government officials, Millerwise said. "It fills in the cracks," she added.

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Under the order, the Treasury secretary -- in consultation with the secretaries of defense and state -- creates the list of those whose assets are to be frozen. However, the targeting of not just those who support perpetrators of violence but also those who support individuals who "pose a significant risk" of committing violence goes far beyond normal legal language related to intent and could be applied in a highly arbitrary manner, said Bruce Fein, a senior Justice Department official in the Reagan administration and a frequent Bush administration critic.

Fein also questioned the executive order's inclusion of third parties, such as U.S. citizens who assist, sponsor or make "any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services" to assist people on the Treasury list. "What about a lawyer hired to get someone off the list?" Fein asked.

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Meanwhile, the department must develop rules and regulations to carry out the order, a process that Fein said he hopes will protect civil liberties that could be at risk.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:23 AM
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1. I'm SO GLAD Fein reads it the same way we do! We AREN'T all freakin' crazy!!! I told my husband
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 11:23 AM by in_cog_ni_to
about this Executive Order and he looked at me like I was REALLY, REALLY insane! I swear, sometimes I'm embarrassed to repeat all the shit I know because the average Joe six-pack thinks I'm making shit up or being a DRAMA QUEEN! My husband does too, apparently.:(

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP!!!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:25 AM
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2. I wear the same pants in my world too
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:31 AM
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3. I know exactly what you mean.
Only in my case, it's my girlfriend and a couple of friends with whom I avoid having such discussions. They "don't want to know about these things". I don't get it.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:50 AM
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4. That's the attitude this cabal has banked on to further their agenda.
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 11:50 AM by in_cog_ni_to
They know the average citizen works, has a family, is very, very busy, and just isn't paying attention to what their government is doing. They knew they'd be able to pull off their coup because of the complacency of the citizens.

DEMOCRACY IS NOT A SPECTATOR SPORT! You cannot just 'watch', you must participate and be informed OR your government will do what this cabal has done.:(
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