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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:57 AM
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Cindy Sheehan: Time's Up, Congress! Impeach Now!
Time's Up, Congress! Impeach Now!
by Cindy Sheehan | Jul 23 2007

Journey for Humanity and Accountability, Day 14

Our Constitution established a tri-partite system of government, with the notion that each branch of government would act as a check on the other two. Unfortunately, for the last six years, the Republicans in Congress have largely viewed themselves as defenders of the Bush Administration, instead of a vital check on overreaching by the Executive Branch. By doing so, I believe they have acted to the detriment of our Constitutional form of government.

We have seen so many transgressions by this Administration that it is easy to forget last week's scandal amid this week's new outrage. I am hopeful that compiling all of these events of the last few years will help wake all of us up to the gravity of these matters and the cumulative damage to our country. Congressman John Conyers, Constitution in Crisis July 31, 2006

Congressman Conyers wrote this brilliant and stinging indictment of BushCo almost a year ago. The booklet outlines and expounds on the crimes of the Bush Regime, and my question for him the last time we met in May, was: What has the President and Vice President done since the Dems regained both houses of Congress in January to miraculously become "innocent" of treason and other high crimes and misdemeanors?

Today we march from Arlington to Congress.

We arrived in DC yesterday from Crawford, Tx after two weeks of our journey.

Twenty-five (sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less) of us have traveled from town to town where we were almost universally welcomed with a small amount of protest mostly in the form of the foul-mouthed and gnarly-breathed, Gathering of Eagles (they call us "hippies" "dirty"). All along the way we have encountered our fellow Americans who are sick and fed up with the crimes of BushCo and the slaughter in the Middle East.

Today we will march from Arlington Cemetery where absolutely no desecration is planned by our group, but where desecration has been committed on a daily basis by the neocon war mongers who use our troops unwisely, illegally, immorally and for monetary and political expediency.

When we arrive at Congressman John Conyer's (D-Mi, Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee) office today we will arrive with over one million signatures on petitions to impeach George Bush and Dick Cheney. We will arrive with the sentiments of the majority of Americans on our side. We will arrive with a thirst for justice and armed with the truth and compassion for our children serving in Iraq and our brothers and sisters who have had to suffer there under the corporate greed of US war profiteers.

The other day in San Diego, Rep. Conyers told an audience that he would go forward with impeachment if 3 other members joined him, well he has 15 other members already signed on H(Res) 333 which is Articles of Impeachment for Dastardly Dick introduced by Rep. Dennis Kucinich. Both Rep. Conyers and Speaker Pelosi need to be reminded of what their constitutional duties are and must be forced to act now before it is too late. I wonder how many more of our troops and Iraqis they are willing to sacrifice on the altar of partisan politics?

Today there will be dozens of us who will sit-in Congressman Conyer's office until he agrees to do the right thing and we will risk arrest if he doesn't. We are doing it because we profoundly believe that accountability in the form of impeachment is imperative to restore the rule of law and to protect the future from an executive branch that has run amok.

We march for peace. We sit for accountability.

On Tuesday, July 24th, I may become a candidate in California's 8th district. The ball's in Congress' court now. I hope they come through for us.

Go to www.thecampcaseypeaceinstitute.org for more info on our Journey for Humanity and Accountability or to donate to help with expenses.
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:58 AM
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1. I'm on my way to Arlington Cemetary
for today's rally. See you at the barricades!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:02 AM
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2. Excellent! I hope you share how your day goes when you get back.
:thumbsup:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:03 AM
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3. thank you Cindy.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:20 AM
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4. Bravo Cindy!
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:21 AM
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5. Great! I hope we get to see some pics.
:bounce:
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:26 AM
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6. CIndy - I am with you in spirit


I will be calling & writing today.

Thanks for your bravery & courage

Thank you
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Nunyabiz Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:32 AM
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7. any bets that NONE of this will manage to make ANY news broadcast?
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:33 AM
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8. I hope Conyers isn't in his office.
He is the last person Cindy should be approaching in a confrontational manner on this issue. SO I guess tomorrow is the day Cindy will make her big announcement declaring her candidacy as an Independent in Pelosi's district. I imagine Democrats will be blamed for Watergate, Iran Contra, the Inquisition and Katrina.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:00 AM
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9. Oh quit it.
I hope she does announce and I think she'll garner much support. She does need to keep the pressure on Conyers and as she and he have a good relationship, it will be fine. I know she started as a green neophyte but she knows what she is doing these days.
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:05 AM
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10. She knows what she is doing?
Are you serious?

The lady cant even dress appropriately. I spent a weekend in Crawford and have supported her in the past, but enough is enough. She needs to get off the air, off the news, and on with doing something productive. She is becoming a side show.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:20 AM
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11. Dress appropriately? Are you a fashion consultant on the side, and what
does that have to do with anything?
She's earned the right to protest this war; she's getting a lot of attention concerning impeachment, stopping this illegal occupation, and how angry most Americans are. She's been on CNN, MSNBC, etc., which is further than many of us have got. What have you done lately to stop the war?
You're absolutely entitled to your opinion and I'm absolutely entitled to disagree with it. But instead of complaining, why don't you let us know how to do it better?

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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:29 AM
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12. Dress appropriately?
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 09:30 AM by Le Taz Hot
Are you serious???? She's devoted her life to the anti-war movement and YOU want her to "do something productive?" Am I on the wrong board??? Good goddess!
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:41 AM
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13. How do they dress in Crawford anyway?
:shrug:

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:53 AM
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19. like this:
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 02:41 PM
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80. Shorts & t-shirts in the Texas heat!!!! As little as possible.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:42 AM
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14. Well, at least Cindy doesn't dress like a bush enabler. When Pelosi took
impeachment and the power of the purse off the table, she also took all claims of fighting this illegal administration and fighting to stop the war off the table as well.

Pelosi dresses just like a neocon, have you noticed? I guess that's appropriate, though. Is that what they mean by "dress for success?"
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:45 AM
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60. How the hell does one dress like a neocon?
What, a suit?

What would you have her wear at work, jeans and flip flops?
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:01 PM
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67. Yes, they would. n/t
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:05 PM
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69. They would what?
Not sure exactly how you're answering my question. Could you rephrase?
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:17 PM
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71. Have her wear jeans and flipflops to work.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:24 PM
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72. Oh, gotcha. So business dress is dressing like a neocon. Swell.
Then the whole Congress is dressing neocon? Gee, I think suits and dresses were around before neocons, eh?
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Nunyabiz Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:44 AM
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15. You could not be more wrong
Cindy is about the only one doing the right thing lately.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:50 AM
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18. Dress appropriately????????
Then alert the fashion police!

I swear this is one of the DUMBEST Cindy slams ever. And you NEVER spent a goddamned day in Crawford. If you did, you were manning this tent:

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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:43 AM
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41. A side show that can't dress appropriately?
Sometimes I feel like America at large is getting just what it deserves.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:08 PM
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84. And as we all know....
...the proper attire is essential to democracy.

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:34 PM
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95. So are you....
A sideshow. :P
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:47 AM
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17. Did it ever occur to you that perhaps she is working WITH Conyers?
At the very least, she is holding Congress accountable. And that is her right as a citizen, despite what you keyboard commandos say.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:15 AM
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27. No
Nothing occurs.

N O T H I N G

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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:31 PM
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93. Wouldn't that make a mass sit-in unnecessary?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:45 AM
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61. Mr. Conyers is the first person one would approach when
lobbying for impeachment. And I'm sure he's not shaking in his shoes over this like some posters to this thread.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:25 PM
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73. Perhaps he's at his Detroit Office
Of course, there are impeachment actions going on there, today, as well. :)

Instead of asking why she's at his office, ask why impeachment advocates aren't at your local congresscritter's office.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:45 AM
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16. Cindy Shahan has rendered herself irrelevent
Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:55 AM
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20. Her critics are the irrelevent ones
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:58 AM
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21. If you are talking about critics like me, I couldn't agree with you more
On the other hand, if you are talking about critics like the Democratic Presidential candidates or Congressional leadership, well, I'm not sure irrelevant is the right word to describe them.

How much Republican money do you suppose Sheehan will end up getting to run against and embarrass Pelosi?

Bryant
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:14 AM
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25. Can't have citizens asking congress critters to do their jobs!
Wouldn't want to embarrass them!! No sireee!!
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:16 AM
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29. If you are talking about Nancy Pelosi, she's doing a fine job. n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:35 AM
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35. Yes she is
I'm sure the president is quite happy with her.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:35 AM
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55. Speaking one's mind is never irrelevent
And no one is above criticism. Not hate, not insults, mind you, just criticism.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:06 AM
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22. Well that's good, because if Pelosi wants to keep impeachment and the power of the
purse off the table, I'd say that makes congress pretty irrelevant as well as the constitution.

I will be knocking on irrelevant doors in her district working for Cindy's irrelevant election. I will be donating my irrelevant time and money.

It will be an irrelevant campaign and the irrelevant voters will cast their irrelevant ballots come irrelevant 08.

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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:15 AM
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26. Good luck with that. It is good taht you aren't fooling yourself. n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:16 AM
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28. Are you planning on embarrassing Pelosi?
Can't have that!! Nancy must be worshiped and adored. Even when she is wrong she is right! Get with the program here!! :sarcasm:
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:18 AM
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30. I note you skipped past the question of how much Republican money
Sheehan will likely get. I suppose that's a good move.

I don't favor supporting Pelosi blindly - I agree with what she is doing. I know you impeachment fanatics have a hard time seeing it, but some of us actually do think taking impeachment off the table was the right thing to do.

Bryant
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:22 AM
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31. "will likely get." ?????
Guilty until proven innocent? :shrug:

How much will be this likely sum?

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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:26 AM
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32. Once you decide to run against a Democrat you have to expect this
How much money did Lieberman get?

How much money has Nader gotten in his various runs?

She may have addressed this; vowing to refuse all republican money. But I don't know how successful she is likely to be unless she totally self finances (which doesn't seem to be an option).

Bryant
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:31 AM
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34. My concern is that you have accused her based on what Lieberman and Nader did.
What kind of logic is this? :shrug:
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:35 AM
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36. This is Democratic Underground and I am pro Democrat
I am in favor of Democrats getting elected and opposed to non-Democrats getting elected. Cindy Sheehan is, for the moment, running against Nancy Pelosi, s democrat. Former protest candidates, like Lieberman and Nader have gotten money from Republicans; in their quest to humiliate and embarrass Democrats, they will doubtless offer money to Pelosi. It's an obvious move. They will want Pelosi's message ("Democrats in Congress suck") to get out as much as possible.

I don't know what Sheehan will do once the money starts flowing in.

Bryant
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:41 AM
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39. Yep party over country
How's that workin for ya?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:45 AM
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42. It's only Impeachment fanatics like you that see it that way
I see it differently. I'd rather do things that are effective than waste my time with pie in the sky projects.

Bryant
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:48 AM
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43. Actually we are fanatics about doing what is best for our country
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:50 AM
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46. Exactly - I honestly believe that
I believe that you and those who support immediate Impeachment honestly believe what you are doing is best for America - it's Admirable.

That's the difference between being a fanatic and not though; because obviously turnabout is not fair-play. You seem to believe that those who disagree with your position on impeachment are knowing Bush enablers.

Bryant

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:53 AM
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48. Allowing him to stay in office is enabling his regime
Sorry if you don't see how truly dangerous he is.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:54 AM
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50. Exactly - that's the difference
You are blinded by your fanaticism so that anybody who disagrees with your particular fix to this problem is, more or less, on Bush's team.

In your case it's largely harmless (although I find it annoying, probably more than I should). In Cindy's hands, though, that attitude will be a gift to our Republican friends.

Bryant
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:48 AM
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44. "Impeachment fanatics" to you and a shrinking few - Patriotic Americans to the rest of us

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:41 AM
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40. If you rather not reply to the question regarding your false accusation, I understand.
For the record, I do not question your pro-Democratic position.

Furthermore, the Democrats who do NOT follow the will of We the People, and continue to ignore the mandates of U.S. Constitution, should be criticized and embarrassed.


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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:48 AM
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45. False accusation?
OK I will be clear. I have no way of knowing whether or not Cindy Sheehan has or would accept any Republican money. I believe strongly that such money will be offered; it's too logical a move for the Republicans not to offer money. Anything to hurt elected Democrats. I don't know at that point if Cindy Sheehan will accept the money or not; depending on how tightly her campaign is organized she may not even know where some of her contributions originate (Republicans are good at disguising money flows).

I would like to see Cindy Sheehan make a statement forswearing all money coming from Republicans or Republican supporters. Perhaps she's already made such a statement.

Is that clear enough?

Bryant
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:54 AM
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49. Yes, and thank you for admitting to your false accusation.
If anyone says you are not a Democrat, then direct them here, to your admission to the false prediction that Cindy will knowingly take repuke money. It is a sure sign that you are not a republican. :D :hi:

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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:20 AM
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51. Yeah, Republicans will sure enough ante up money to give
to Sheehan! NOT. The Republicans gave money to Lieberman because he IS a damned Republican. And, they gave money to Nader because they knew he had NO CHANCE of winning. They won't risk having Rep. Sheehan, because Cindy can actually beat Nancy, and they DON'T want that to happen. The best thing Nancy Pelosi could do right now is to meet with Cindy, and assure her that impeachment is back on the table....not just for herself, but for the country.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:27 AM
Response to Reply #51
52. We differe
Both on Cindy Sheehan's chances and on the propaganda value of supporting her candidancy.

Hell one of the big defenses of Sheehan's actions has been that she has not hope. I find it odd to see you going against that assessment.

Bryant
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #52
74. Well, that's what makes America great...
we all have the right to differ with one another. Everybody went to bed on election night in 1944 believing that Harry Truman had no chance to beat Dewey, too.

Given the right circumstances, any incumbent can be beaten...even Nancy Pelosi.
Case in point: Tom Daschle is not the majority leader in the Senate.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 06:23 AM
Response to Reply #36
100. Well said.
:)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #30
37. Sorry I didn't take 'Predicting the Future 101' in college
and only bush enablers support not impeaching him and cheney.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:40 AM
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38. Yes you've made that clear in the past
That that is your opinion, at any rate. Obviously I disagree.

Bryant
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:34 AM
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54. She probably will get far less than Clinton got from Rupert Murdoch -
that's a pretty safe guess, wouldn't you say?

And name calling is not an effective substitute for an argument.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:38 AM
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57. Dang!
Beat me by 3 minutes! :hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #57
58. Lol!
:hi:
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #54
62. Clinton is running on the Democratic Ticket
And I don't support her (I favor Edwards).

If Clinton didn't get the nomination and chose to run in a third party bid with Republican Money it'd be more parallel.

Bryant
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #62
64. So, it's okay for Democrats to sell out but not others? n/t
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #64
68. I didn't say that
Let me say one thing first of all - we should have total public financing of campaigns to eliminate this question.

When you are mounting a protest / spoiler campaign as Sheehan is your funding is more of an issue; if it weren't this question wouldn't have engendered such strong reactions. For Hillary Clinton to take republican money is, like it or not (and I don't), business as usual. For Sheehan to take it, particularly if you assume as most do that she has very little chance of actually getting into power, well it points to her motives.

Bryant
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:10 PM
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70. That's a double standard. And come to think of it, business as
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 12:10 PM by sfexpat2000
usual is probably the reason Cindy is choosing not to run as a Democrat.

I agree with you about public financing. What we have now is undemocratic.

/oops
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #70
75. Well it's a double standard in part because she is running
from outside the party. If she were running for the nomination of the Democratic Party in that district, I probably wouldn't bring it up.

Bryant
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:42 PM
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76. I'd prefer for her to run as a Dem, myself and I bet a lot of people
feel the same way. A primary challenge in this district would be more useful, imho.

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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #76
77. I'd totally agree with that; even if it hurt Pelosi it would probably be good for her
and for us in the long run.

Bryant
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:37 AM
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56. And I'm sure your protested vociferously
when Hillary Clinton was the guest of honor at Rupert Murdoch's fundraiser for her? I'm SURE there wasn't any Republican monies involved there. Nope. Huh uh.

One more thing. Nancy Pelosi did not and does not have the right to take impeachment off the table. That was a right specifically stated in the Constitution by the Founding Fathers. It's inalienable. :eyes:
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:10 AM
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23. Who is Cindy Shahan??
maybe we should do a useless poll!
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:26 AM
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33. I apologize for my poor spelling. n/t
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:18 PM
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87. If she is so irrelevant....
...then why bother commenting on her? Why not let her fade into oblivion?

So are you against impeachment of Bush/Cheney?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 07:32 AM
Response to Reply #87
103. She will be irrelevant might be a better way of putting it
I am in favor of the impeachment of Bush/Cheney, but I don't believe that to be possible, so I support our Democratic leadership in working on other priorities.

Bryant
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:11 AM
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24. Geaux Cindy!!
:kick:



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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:51 AM
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47. K&R
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RFKJr4PRES Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:29 AM
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53. Cindy is showing the way to take our Democracy back!
We need everyday citizens to stand up and run for office,real patriots with compassion,intelligence and an ability to read the Constitution.
(165,000 per year, great healthcare and retirement, many long paid vacations, work less than 100 days per year)

It is time to get the politicians out of DC.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:44 AM
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59. Rush Limbaugh agrees with half the people on both sides
He considers her a sympathetic figure.

One for the supporters.

He thinks there's a disconnect in her head and an emotional issue there.

One for the non-supporters.

He thinks the Dems were cruel to set her up and promote her as the leader of the movement, get her used to the limelight, then yank it away and turn their backs when she started criticizing THEM and they saw her as no longer useful. He says it shows what bad people we really are.

There's one for the supporters.

He thinks that certain people have been using her and playing on the emotions of the mother of a dead soldier.

One for the non-supporters.

It was weird listening to him that day. I could hear echos of both sides.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #59
63. It's funny the way people alternately see her as an attention seeking
egoist or a manipulated victim -- anything but a committed, strong woman who knows her mind and has the courage to walk her walk.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #63
65. Well, that is how Rash Limpballs sees her.
And his ditto-brain-dead-heads. They are very afraid of committed, strong women.


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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:58 AM
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66. CINDY FOR SPEAKER!!*****
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 12:02 PM by shance
ABSOLUTELY!!

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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #66
78. Bush made a monkey out of Madame Squeaker and she doesn't
even get it. She looks like his American poodle!

Attending Bush's picnic was not in her job duties as speaker. She did not have to put herself up against him with her breast against his chest. That is an invasion of her personal space and she did not push him away or raise her arms as Merkel did and drop out of his grip.

This woman is not savvy enough to hold one of the highest positions of our government. She is still in high school with a school girl's crush.

Send a man in to do the job and let him smack down the idiot-in-chief!




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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 02:36 PM
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79. A majority of Americans
52 percent, so only just barely I suppose. Not exactly a landslide.

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stirlingsliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 03:32 PM
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81. You Speak For Us, CIndy!!
You speak for those of us who have no voice.

We LOVE YOU, Cindy!

Thank you -- THANK YOU !!!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:53 PM
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82. Why does Cindy continually equate impeachment with ending the war?
I wonder how many more of our troops and Iraqis they are willing to sacrifice on the altar of partisan politics?

I wonder how many more troops and Iraqis will be sacrificed by taking media attention off of the war?

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:28 PM
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88. The media attention is NOT CURRENTLY on the war.
If it were American citizens would be much more aware of the ATROCITY their *MIC is perpetrating. GENOCIDE is underway in YOUR NAMES and the flag-draped coffins of your loved ones are forbidden to be shown.

In order to STOP this carnage THOSE WHO ARE PROFITTING FROM IT MUST BE HELD TO ACCOUNT. INDICT. IMPEACH. IMPRISON. Then open the books to see clearly what has been wrought in your names. It is not to be forgiven, particularly in the face of your consistent denial.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:32 PM
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89. What do you mean YOUR names?
Are you not American?

I disagree, the media has focused on Iraq FINALLY, but if you don't live in the US you may not be aware?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:47 PM
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90. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Dearest Mzmolly, There ARE places in the world where these issues are NOT taboo and have been discussed openly for YEARS. Americans are much like mushrooms. Kept in the dark and fed dung.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:50 PM
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91. Sorry, I don't see an answer to my question.
I'm an American, who has been against the war from it's first inkling. It appears to me you're not living in the US, correct? Just curious, it doesn't mean you can't comment. But it does mean that you may not be aware of what our media is discussing at present.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:09 PM
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92. Gimme a fucking break, Molly.
:eyes: I'm a news junkie, JUST LIKE YOU. UNLIKE YOU, I feed my habit in several languages.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:44 PM
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98. NAAAAADUUUUU!!!!!..... Wie gehts?
:hug: :hi:



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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 07:26 AM
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101. Ich bin so wütend, Swampers...
Kannst Du mein Wutschrei hören??? :argh::argh::argh:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:55 PM
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99. And again, the answer to my question?
:shrug:
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 07:32 AM
Response to Reply #99
104. You won't get one from the poster you're asking
She's a notorious flamebaiter on these boards, and exists here mainly to try to pi$$ people off.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:58 PM
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83. Come on. Let's do this and get the ball rolling.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:12 PM
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85. Never surrender, never forget....
...thank you Cindy.

K&R!!!

There is only one solution....

IMPEACH!!!
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:17 PM
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86. How can we miss her?
If she won't go away?

Sheehan can't be trusted. She is not a person of her word. How much more criticism will she weather before she quits again?
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:34 PM
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94. WHOO-HAAA! ALL RIGHT, CINDY! k&r!
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:42 PM
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96. Why I Bet Pelosi Won't Do It.
Pelosi is of Argentinian Jewish Heritage and is married to Jewish Real Estate Developer.

Now before any Jewish DUer's here go and accuse me of being "Ant-Semenic", I am only stating fact.

Nancy Pelosi is a huge supporter of the Warmongering A.I.P.A.C.
(American Israel Public Affairs Committee)
and they are pushing hard for Military action against Iran.

A.I.P.A.C. is PUSHING for WAR with Iran!:think:

I think she has been bought off.....

If she has indeed been bought off in this way
do you think she will ever put Impeachment on the table???


So what will it be Ms. Pelosi, are you biased,
are you actually for a different Country or are you for the People of The United States???

I think someone needs to address this issue with her.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:43 PM
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97. Impeach now!
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 07:31 AM
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102. I'm afraid we may already be out of time. - n/t
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