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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:19 PM Original message |
I am not against steroid use in professional sports... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's a health risk to the user and that's the bottom line for me. |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. yeah it is, if abused |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. What is been done not isn't working. It's Russian Roulette with |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Two words: Lyle Alzado. n/m |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. who abused steroids and growth hormone |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Well put. I am, however, loathe to see anyone take a chance like that, you included. n/m |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I decided long ago not to |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I guess I'm "old school". |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. it actually allows them to work out more |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 05:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
61. A health risk to the user? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. Anabolic steroids when abused to "bulk up" |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. oh I said I never would |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
3. As someone who sometimes has to take steroids for medical reasons... |
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OlderButWiser (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. What were you using |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 04:48 AM Response to Reply #11 |
60. Not anabolic steroids. Prednisone. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
26. I agree. I've had to be on them for medical reasons three times. What a |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
64. Use of steroids in violent contact sports is just flat-out dangerous |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
4. Interesting and very well written |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
79. Gibbie! The most feared pitcher in baseball history. |
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OlderButWiser (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
5. I, too, would not be against |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. I consider it unfair |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
6. Well, wouldn't allowing steroids to be used just turn baseball and football |
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OlderButWiser (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. You don't just |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Oh please, I know that. It's still artificial. |
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OlderButWiser (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. There is nothing artificial |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. Okay you win. Steroids are good for ya and good for sports. It makes |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. yeah but do you watch sports knowing that |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. You're right. If I decide to watch any football this fall, I'll go and demand |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. no they aren't monitored |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. it's passed that, if you think it isn't you're lying to yourself |
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poverlay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
8. As a lifelong sports fan who could never play due to a lifelong hip ailment, I have to |
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OlderButWiser (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Babe Ruth... |
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Kingofalldems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. This made his accomplishments even more phenomenal |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. yeah but players in those days used stimulants |
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poverlay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
59. I hugely respect someone like the Babe who has so much natural ability that he can do well |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. but the status quo is unacceptable |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
9. Being a professional athlete requires damaging the body to make it perform temporarily |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. I think something has to give |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
14. Its not just hitters who are jacked up on steroids. Pitchers, too. And here's something about Bonds |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. Bonds is a sad case because he is such a rare athlete in the first place |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. McGwire loved talking to reporters, Bonds does not. I think thats the big difference |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. exactly right |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. yeah, I can't believe the number of people rooting against his breaking the record |
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OlderButWiser (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #47 |
62. At least |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
81. amen to that |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
17. I remember a quote from John Kruk years ago |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. oh yeah, I loved Kruk |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'm for Ricky Williams being able too be a stoner and still play football. |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. well yes |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
38. Your argument is flawed |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. I didn't make that argument |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. How about knowingly eating cholesterol loaded food |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. Oh, sweet 12" talking Jesus |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. thank you doctor |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. And how long ago was that? |
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Oeditpus Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
40. If pro sports allowed limited, controlled use of steroids |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. which is basically what we have now |
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OlderButWiser (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
42. Can we inject the story about the... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
48. Very well said. I agree with most of what you say. |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I used to cut a lot of weight |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. What really makes me shake my head on the whole issue |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
50. I used steroids.I agree with what you say. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Is that |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. LOL>.I wish.It's Iris Kyle |
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JacquesMolay (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
52. Only if there's a separate league for them. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
63. How about some sort of Steroid League. |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. nobody would watch the clean league |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. I think nobody would watch the steroid league. |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. people care about quality of play |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. And nobody likes a cheater. |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. yeah nobody does |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Blind eye? |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. people get randomly tested |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
66. And all the kids that worship their heroes can take them too? |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. yup |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Make them illegal in professional sports. |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. good then let them do it |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
67. I agreed with you until a couple of weeks ago. |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. yeah but steroids wasn't the problem there |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
73. sounds like a means to an end to me |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. yeah but I wouldn't use them |
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