'IMPEACH TO STOP THE WAR/LIES/DEATHS-MANDATORY For Good Of The Nation' by Jimmy Breslin -NewsDay

[kpete]

Say impeachment and you'll get your troops home.

Impeach George Bush to stop war lies, deaths
JIMMY BRESLIN


July 22, 2007

I am walking in Rosedale on this day early in the week while I wait for the funeral of Army soldier Le Ron Wilson, who died at age 18 in Iraq. He was 17 1/2 when he had his mother sign his enlistment papers at the Jamaica recruiting office. If she didn't, he told her, he would just wait for the months to his 18th birthday and go in anyway. He graduated from Thomas Edison High School at noon one day in May. He left right away for basic training. He came home in a box last weekend. He had a fast war.

The war was there to take his life because George Bush started it with bold-faced lies.
He got this lovely kid killed by lying.
If Bush did this in Queens, he would be in court on Queens Boulevard on a murder charge.

He did it in the White House, and it is appropriate, and mandatory for the good of the nation, that impeachment proceedings be started. You can't live with lies. You can't permit them to be passed on as if it is the thing to do.

..............

And in Washington we had this Bush, and it is implausible to have anyone who is this dumb running anything, smirking at his country. He sure doesn't mind copying those people. On his PBS television show the other night, Bill Moyers said he was amazed at Sara Taylor of the White House staff saying that she didn't have to talk to a congressional committee because George Bush had ordered her not to. "I took an oath to uphold the president," she said.

That president had been in charge of a government that kidnapped, tortured, lied, intercepted mail and calls, all in the name of opposing people who are willing to kill themselves right in front of you. You have to get rid of a government like this. Ask anybody in Rosedale, where Le Ron Wilson wanted to live his young life. His grave speaks out that this is an impeachable offense.




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[ClassWarrior]

1. "Say impeachment and you'll get your troops home."

K&R

NGU.

[hedgehog]

2. "Say impeachment and you'll get your troops home."

If only we could guarantee that. Here are some scenarios that make me hesitate:

Bush is impeached.

- Cheney goes in and we go to war in Iran.

- Another Republican goes in , messes around for a couple months, then gets elected as a sitting president on the promise that he has a secret plan
for "winning the war" and killing all the terrorists.

- Pelosi goes in , orders the troops home

- The generals stall long enough to keep the troops in another 18 months.
and/or
- The republicans block troop withdrawal and simultaneously accuse Pelosi and the Democrats of "losing the war"
and/or
- The troops come home, but the Republicans successfully accuse Pelosi and the Democrats of "losing the war " and manage to put Romney or
Guiliani in the White House and he starts a new war in Iran.

Even if the troops do come home, we can't afford another 4 or 8 years of Republican rule.

[EFerrari]

3. "Say impeachment and you'll get your troops home."

K&R

[ClassWarrior]

6. Is there an echo in here?

:hi:

NGU.

[EFerrari]

8. It's more like a heartbeat!

:toast:

[ClassWarrior]

15. Awww... that's beautiful...

:hug:

NGU.

[EFerrari]

19. The rumble of the people.

Let's keep moving, my friend. :toast:

[OzarkDem]

4. Pelosi reiterated yesteday - its off the table

Pelosi also reiterated Saturday that she would not engage in what would perhaps be the biggest confrontation possible with the White House -- seeking the impeachment of Bush over the Iraq war.

The speaker said she had "no hesitation" criticizing the president about his handling of the war, but said there were more important priorities for lawmakers -- such as health care and creating jobs -- than the divisive pursuit of impeachment.

"Look, it's hard enough for us to end the war. I don't know how we would be successful in impeaching the president," Pelosi said.

She did note that calls for the president's removal are not coming just from San Francisco.

"I'm not unsympathetic to the concern people have -- I hear it all over the country. People here have said to me, 'Well, people on the left want the president to be impeached.' I hear it across the board across the country. It's not just the left," Pelosi said.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2007/07/22/MNGH5R4QJO1.DTL&type=politics

[EFerrari]

5. We don't need Nancy's sympathy. We need her to respect

her constituents and her oath of office.

[OzarkDem]

11. Doubtful that will happen

Her response about impeachment yesterday was directed specifically to the Dem grassroots who are pushing for it. She listened to Dem voters, she listened to Bush and she decided to side with Bush.

Ms. Pelosi is compromised and is no longer an effective leader. I don't know what Bush has done or said to frighten her so, but she is no longer making decisions with the good of our nation in mind, she's strictly responding to him.

[EFerrari]

16. Nancy is in a very difficult position. And as much as I want

and work for impeachment, I'll not write her off. She's a smart, able politician. She's been a vocal critic of BushCo when it was political suicide to challenge the Decider.

I don't agree that she's strictly responding to him. She's juggling. Our last Dem leader of the House never did as much. We'd have to go back to Tip O'Neil to find someone with the skill that is called for here and now.

And yes, I camped out at her home with Code Pink. This is a difficult moment. I want to support Nancy and at the the same time, I will not let up on the push to impeach. :shrug:

[OzarkDem]

20. Of course she is

and she has very few options available. Bush has made sure she can either choose very tough battles and fight him or choose to look like she's doing something while leaving him free to do as he wishes. She's taking the easy way out. She thinks by choosing door # 2, she can ride out the storm until 2008. What she's refusing to acknowledge is that Bush and the GOP will still be in control in 2008 unless she chooses door #1.

I'm absolutely convinced that if Dems give Bush a pass and don't hold him accountable now, the GOP will keep Dems from winning in 2008. They would not be going to such great efforts to consolidate power in the Executive Branch if they didn't have a plan they thought was realistic to keep that office in 2008.

The power they have over Pelosi is probably blackmail. They probably plan to reveal some unsavory stories about Dems in congress if she fights them. She's opting for short term gain of pretending to do something while letting Bush off the hook in the hopes she can ride out the GOP and beat them in 2008.

That's not going to happen, they won't let it. The only chance we have of doing real damage to Bush and the GOP is now - while we still have a smidgen of democracy left. After the GOP has stolen the election in 2008, it will be nearly impossible to hold them accountable again.

[EFerrari]

21. I share your concern about 2008 and plan to get in Feinstein's face

about her "decision" to ignore the problems with our election systems. :mad:

[loudsue]

33. That's a big "amen"!

They're going to make fools out of the Dems in 2008 if something isn't done, and done FAST.

Everyone now knows how many laws this administration has broken, and it's time to try & convict the lot of them.

:kick:

[Just-plain-Kathy]

41. I have this sinking feeling...

...that our democratic leaders know that BushCo will plow their way into Iran no mater what; they all know we have lost our democracy.

I think last week’s over-night effort to end the war was just a futile attempt to appear as if Dems are trying to end the war.

I think we’ll be Iran by the end of the summer, and I think whoever is crowned president in ‘08 will be part of the Bush regime, whether they have a ‘R’ or a ‘D’ next to their name.

[Autumn Colors]

37. My guess is blackmail (NSA wiretap info?) vs. threats to her family (nm)

[ClassWarrior]

7. Well then she needs to learn who's boss around here.

And I damn well don't mind telling her.

NGU.

[hedgehog]

10. Pelosi may be able to impeach, but what if it goes to trial in the Senate

and Congress fails to convict?

[ClassWarrior]

14. Doesn't matter... Read this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3393061&mesg_id=3393159

And this...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/072107.html

NGU.

[EFerrari]

23. Worked out well for the Thuggery when they failed to convict Clinton.

Looks like the party that initiates impeachment doesn't take a hit.

[AntiFascist]

13. She specifically mentioned the "impeachment of Bush"....

HR 333 is about the impeachment of Cheney.

[ClassWarrior]

27. Nice catch.

Could be significant.

NGU.

[WillyT]

17. Has She Not Heard Of The Senate, Is She Unaware Of This Thing Called A Veto ???

The speaker said she had "no hesitation" criticizing the president about his handling of the war, but said there were more important priorities for lawmakers -- such as health care and creating jobs -- than the divisive pursuit of impeachment.

She can get all sorts of things passed in the House that will just sit there and collect dust until January '09. They won't go to conference because the rePukes in the Senate will not allow it. They've basically said so. And if they do, our DICKtator will pull out his veto pen and finish the suckers off!

And all Nancy will be left with, going into the '08 elections is... "we tried."

NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!

Wake up Madame Speaker, the future you squander may be your own!!!

:banghead:

[WinkyDink]

18. Thousands dead, more to die, but to Pelosi, there are "more important priorities"??

When the next election cycle arrives, Democratic candidates will learn how astonishingly wrong she was.

[tbyg52]

22. How else does she plan on holding those ciminals to account?

And if they are not held to account, it *will* continue, even past this administration.

[EFerrari]

24. The talking point she gave Mr. Conyers was "We'll impeach them

at the polls in 2008."

But, that seems to me to be a talking point and not indicative of what they're really thinking.

Mr. Conyers said in the last few days that he needs 3 more reps to impeach.

That sounds much more like him.

We need to get busy.

[EVDebs]

25. Yeah, the neocon's banquet table has no room for commonsense.

Wake the hell up Dems, throw the switch.

[reichstag911]

30. My LTTE on that:

Dear Sirs:

One wonders at the "success" of the 2006 midterm elections insofar as they placed the clearly disingenuous (and far-from-ingenious) Ms. Pelosi in the role of Speaker of the House...and Enabler of the White House. Her pre-election assurances about keeping impeachment "off the table" were bad enough, but her post-ascendancy posturing and rhetoric are beyond the pale.

Impeachment is not something that Ms. Pelosi can choose or not as the whim strikes her, like that day's wardrobe; it is her Constitutional imperative as a putative leader of the body charged with overseeing the executive branch.

As for her ridiculous claim that "it's hard enough for us to end the war," nothing could be further from the truth. Had they some steel in their spines, they could quite simply refuse to continue funding the illegal occupation. Instead, they abjectly acquiesce, give Prince George a blank check, call it a compromise, and the troops and we wait another "Friedman unit" (six months) for the next round of political gutlessness in this endless cycle of stalling for the great undefined success in Iraq. Where are our leaders?

Best,

Me

[Mr Rabble]

35. A "Friedman unit". Nice. I am stealing that!

[reichstag911]

43. Not mine to steal,...

...but I liked it so much, I had to steal it!

[KAT119]

31. Congress voted for war on Iran last week=their promise to AIPAC....

How can Nacy Pelosi impeach an Evil in Chief who also wants and plans for war on Iran that she also agreed to-voted for....

AIPAC -the American Israel Public Affairs Committee-gives all congress members 1/2 of their campaign donations.

Repubs/Dems. are in their pocket--listen to Pelosi, Edwards, Hillary, Obama, Feingold talk about how Iran must not obtain nukes under any circumstances.

Israel would not have real security w/ Iran war, and certainly US would not. World in chaos....

Russia/China would defend Iran. Nukes fly--all oil fields radioactive for 1000's of years!!-- WWlll-- Checkmate--THE END....

http://antiwar.com/orig/giraldi.php?articleid=10760

[disndat]

39. Iran will aim their

nuclear launcher at Israel the first thing upon our attack on Iran. What is AIPAC thinking of? I hear the people in Israel are very nervous. Of course these war makers are unconcerned about people's lives. Very low priority compared to the riches they could gain.

[LibertyorDeath]

42. Pelosi is scared....

I think this is what she's scared of I think this is what they
are all scared of with the exception of Kucinich/Conyers
and a few other brave souls.

"If Congress moves to impeach them now, it is very possible that they will attempt a coup d'etat ."

Those in the know in the Democratic party know this

to be the case I believe and they are hoping against hope

that Bush\Rove\Cheney\Gonzales will go quietly

because of an electoral defeat in 08.

Anyone who has watched these people operate for any length of time

knows this will not be the case.

[biscotti]

9. I haven't read anything from

Jimmy Breslin in a long time. Thanks for posting this.

[AntiFascist]

12. K&R, Exactly what I'm thinking...

a serious threat of impeachment could work wonders in ending the War of Terror.

[porphyrian]

26. Fucking impeach now. - n/t

[theHandpuppet]

28. "I took an oath to uphold the president"??? WTF???

I thought such oaths were to uphold the CONSTITUTION of the United States of America.

[Raster]

29. Not anymore. Remember "...it's just a piece of paper."

There are two types of Americans. Those that support impeachment of bush* and cheney* and those that don't.
There are two types of Americans that don't support impeachment: cowards and collaborators. Frequently both.

Wake up America!:kick:

[Swamp Rat]

32. IMPEACH NOW!!

[Kurovski]

34. K&R. (nt)

[mntleo2]

36. Breslyn Tore My Heart!

...his outrage reflects my own.

Pelosi needs to understand that it is the American people who are the ones this time that are crying out for impeachment ~ not a bunch of hypocritical, adulterous politicians and creepy talking heads who were all bent out of shape and obsessed about a stained blue dress! It is about democracy and why the Constitution was so powerful that for 200 years people have been willing to stand up and die for it.

It needs to happen, it is the right time ~ or soon it will be time for a national taking up of torches and pitchforks!

IMPEACH CHENEY AND BUSH NOW !!!!!!!!!

Cat in Seattle

[donkeyotay]

38. If it weren't for this obscene war, we'd be talking about the health care travesty

Mr. fuckin "let them eat cake" on health care:

The other day, Bush said he couldn't understand why in the world would some people say that millions of Americans have no health insurance. "Why, all they have to do is go to the emergency room," he said.

Said this with the smirk, the insolent smug, contemptuous way he speaks to citizens.

Our health care "reform" nudge, nudge, wink, wink is no more genuine than the way this country has bled for this corporate plunder called a "war." Our country has been stolen, but the Democrats can't get over their good fortune that now the corps are spending their money on them, and with only slightly different results.

[socretes73]

40. If Bush Overeach

then you must impeach