Are You a Liberal Anti-Semite? (quiz)

[The Crazy Canadian]

I was reading an article in the Washington Post on-line and I noticed this link off to the side. It takes you to this quiz on Slate.

http://www.slate.com/id/2158962?nav=wp

To me, this quiz is a joke. I scored 18, that makes me an anti-semite now. On slate it states:

"After years of rising concern about left-wing anti-Semitism, the New York Times reported this week about a study for the American Jewish Committee. Written by professor Alvin Rosenfeld of Indiana University, the study describes the spread of a virulent anti-Zionism in many quarters on the left that has helped legitimate anti-Semitism. Some people have seized on the study to argue that these extreme anti-Zionists are really anti-Jewish bigots. Critics reply that criticizing Israel, even harshly, doesn't prove animus toward the Hebrew people."

Maybe I should stop using the name "Crush Neocon Skulls" whenever I visit the comment section of a website/blog. Could be hurting someones feelings.

[Jackpine Radical]

1. Oy, vay is mir.

Zwanzig.

[mainegreen]

2. Of course that quiz assumes Isreal=Judasim.

:eyes:

[angstlessk]

3. I got a 12, but only because I refused to answer quesiton 7

7. On what basis is Iran a threat to world peace?

a) I'm concerned that its unchecked nuclear-arms program will destabilize the region.
b) I'm afraid Israel will use its saber-rattling as a pretext to start World War III.
c) I pray Ehud Olmert will have the chutzpah to pull another Osirak.

[GreenTea]

4. How about liberal and anti-Italian or etc.... Why ALWAYS are we "anti-semite"?

Just posing the question is disgusting!

[sandnsea]

5. Incredibly biased quiz

Massachusetts? Pssht. Go blow. How could the 'c' answers be anything but anti-Muslim bigots, if that's how they want to play the game.

[SayWhatYo]

38. I think it was meant to have a tongue in cheek feel too it, my friend.

[sandnsea]

46. It creates 3 distinct charicatures

And anybody who is actually rational and thinks the way most Americans think about Israel, are going to come out in this quiz as left-leaning or anti-semitic. It doesn't matter if the writer thinks "Massachusettts liberal" is funny, it's the kind of think that contributes to the divisions in this country. How about a quiz to see whether people are Nazis and we'll put Idaho or Alabama as one of the answers. Then just say, oh, it's tongue-in-cheek.

[SayWhatYo]

48. :D I wouldn't see an issue with the alabama and idaho thing...

I guess I'm just odd...

[sandnsea]

49. Yeah, ID & AL are full of nazis

Nothing demeaning about that at all. :eyes:

[SayWhatYo]

50. Oh wait, Nazis? I thought you said trailer parks...

Sorry, but I think you're being ridiculous about this. However, I respect your right to have whatever personality you have. I hope you can do the same for the rest of the world and probably at least half of DU.

[sandnsea]

57. Wha???

Everybody in the thread thinks the quiz was weird. You on bash patrol today or something??

[SayWhatYo]

61. I don't think so...

It's not my intent 'bash' anyone... I wouldn't read too much into my comments, they are primarily meant for entertainment(probably just for myself) Strangely, I interpreted this persons "quiz" to be the same...

[sandnsea]

65. So why attack me?

Because I had a difference of opinion? Unless you think it's entertaining to shit on people, which is why you might have missed the denigration in that crappy quiz.

[SayWhatYo]

87. I wasn't trying to attack you.

Hmm, at least not attacking you in a mean way. If anything, my posts were meant to be more lighthearted than anything. As for shitting on people, not really. I get uncomfortable when I'm going to bathroom and people are around. I would assume that if I was shitting on someone then they would have to be near... That's just weird.

Ok, I'm going to be honest here. You see it as shitting on people, I personally do not see it as shitting on people. You saw answer (C) as being an attack on liberals in Massachusetts. I saw it as a light hearted joke against republicans and their opinion of the state in regards to gay marriage.

Either way, it wasn't my intent to attack you or upset anyone. If I wanted to do that then I would have posted nude photos of myself.

[UndertheOcean]

6. I scored 16 ,, and what an idiotic test this is.

n/t

[PhilipShore]

7. Michael Moore and his groupies--- hate liberals...

their fame was built by Republican party money, (in the name of liberalism) especially in the 2000 election. But --- that is not the real liberal movement in the USA. The Nader/Moore campaigns were simply Repuke ads created by Repuke money, to discredit liberalism, by running anti-Semites as great modern day liberals.

Great liberals in the USA are JFK, King, General Wesley Clark. Gore, etc.

Moore and his groupies are 100% anti-Semitic, but they are not liberals, they are Michael Moore/Nader cult groupies.

[UndertheOcean]

9. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

So Nader is anti-semite ? Moore is anti-semite ?

Give me one thing , just one thing , that Moore said that is anti-Semite ?

???!!!

[PhilipShore]

12. It is what he did not say -- in the 2000 election -- that makes him an anti-Semite...

which was that a Nader vote was a vote for Bush. He also did not speak out against his followers, that worked on the Nader campaign --- and whom were literally quoting word for word --- Nazi anti-semitic slogans --- from actual posters during World War 2 --- and at the same time working on the Nader campaign, with Moore, over at Indymedia (anti-semite village) of the world.

[UndertheOcean]

25. Do You have evidence of this slander of both Nader and Moore ?

???

[Madspirit]

14. i LOVE Michael Moore

You are wrong about Michael Moore and I would like to see some proof of what you say.

I hate Nader and he does play into the hands of the Republicans but I don't think he is one. I just think what he does is wrong. He has blood on his hands from this war too, for helping put Chimpy in office. Still, I don't think that is his intent. He pisses me off but I wouldn't go so far as saying he has conscious mal-intent. He's just a stupid megalomaniac.

I LOVE everything Michael Moore does. ...and still, asking for proof that Michael Moore is an anti Semite. I won't read anything else of yours until I get some PROOF about your horrible allegation against MM.
Madspirit

[UndertheOcean]

26. You won't get any proof , because there ain't any...

just a hit and run on those TRUE leftists.

[PhilipShore]

31. Liberals are not part of the left ....

the term left is a communist phrase used by communists. Is Moore a communist?

Liberalism is undefined by center, right or left --- because liberalism is a philosophy of inner truth and non-violent opposition to injustice.

[UndertheOcean]

34. Don't tell me you have a problem with communism ?

geez....

Their are degrees of "left" , and yes , liberalism and progressiveness are leftist movements,much closer to socialism and communism than to right wing ideologies.

[SayWhatYo]

52. That's like the whole anti-Semite means anti-Arab and Jewish argument

While your argument may be technically right(not saying it is or isn't, but we'll assume it is), it's not how it interpreted by the vast majority of the population. When one says 'left' they are typically referring to liberals and not specifically to communist. Although, it's more common for left to be equated to what you define as liberalism. Of course, context matters too.

[PhilipShore]

30. I have no proof--- the lunatics over at Indymedia could of been...

copy and pasting Moore press releases from michaelmoore.com -- and giving the impression that it was actually Michael Moore at the threads over at Indymedia --- which was in 2000 a de facto ---
Nader campaign site.

Moore, and/or someone that would come on and claim to be Moore, and write prolific articles about the Nader campaign --- and, I would say from my experience 80% of the responses to Moore's articles were anti-semitic and/or anti-liberal.

So it is simply false ---to equate Moore and Nader --- as being representative of liberalism --- in the USA --- when they even hate liberalism.

[The Crazy Canadian]

32. Anybody who trashes Micheal Moore is an idiot.

He has done more to help Liberalism and/or Progressivism than anybody else I can think of.

[PhilipShore]

33. What has he done?

[UndertheOcean]

36. Fahrenhiet 9/11

which opened a lot of eyes to the Bush fiasco of a regime.

[PhilipShore]

40. I never watched it

[UndertheOcean]

43. Yet you ask what has he done ...

watch it, and you will know.

[PhilipShore]

45. What has the movie done?

[Madspirit]

47. Bowling For Columbine

Was pretty great too and his first...what was it called...jeez, my mind just slipped. The one in his own hometown about the factory that closed down. Everything Michael Moore does is wonderful.
...and I never listen to anyone who criticizes someone and then turns around and says they've seen none of their movies...haha. THAT is one of Michael's arts and one of the ways he spreads the word. Goddess I love him.

Anyway, these opinions are totally worthless:

"I don't like that book/movie/person."
"Have you read/seen it?"
"No."

hahaha

Madspirit

[PhilipShore]

53. I don't have to watch a movie to see that the unions have lost power...

and frankly -- unions were made up of flag waving patriotic Americans: that were during the Vietnam war --- pro war ---and would attack Vietnam war protesters, and those same --- anti-war --- protesters stopped the War in Vietnam.

[Madspirit]

59. Huh?!

...but you should know something about someone, especially someone much loved by many of US, before you insult him. You should know something about the body of his work, what he thinks, what he believes or you're just a jerk.
You know nothing about Michael Moore and yet you have no problem insulting him. THAT is odd and off-putting.
Madspirit

[PhilipShore]

63. I just asked, what great thing has he done as a liberal?...

Kennedy (a liberal Democrat) created the space program, etc. What has Moore done? Simple question.

John F. Kennedy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy

Presidency (1961-1963)

John Kennedy was sworn in as the 35th President on January 20, 1961. In his inaugural address he spoke of the need for all Americans to be active citizens. "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country", he said. He also asked the nations of the world to join together to fight what he called the "common enemies of man: tyranny, poverty, disease, and war itself." <8> He further said: Finally, whether you are citizens of America or citizens of the world, ask of us the same high standards of strength and sacrifice which we ask of you. With a good conscience our only sure reward, with history the final judge of our deeds, let us go forth to lead the land we love, asking His blessing and His help, but knowing that here on earth God's work must truly be our own.

As one of his first presidential acts, Kennedy created the Peace Corps. Through this program, Americans volunteered to help underdeveloped nations in areas such as education, farming, health care and construction.

Under simultaneous and opposing pressures from the Allies and the Soviets, Germany was divided. The Berlin Wall separated West and East Berlin, the latter being under the control of the Soviets. On June 26, 1963, Kennedy visited West Berlin and gave a public speech criticizing communism. Kennedy used the construction of the Berlin Wall as an example of the failures of communism: "Freedom has many difficulties and democracy is not perfect, but we have never had to put a wall up to keep our people in." The speech is known for its famous phrase "Ich bin ein Berliner". Nearly five-sixths of the population was on the street when Kennedy said the famous phrase. He remarked to aides afterwards: "We'll never have another day like this one."[1

[Madspirit]

66. Michael Moore is not the President.

MM could not have started the space program. What a doofus example. Michael Moore is an educator, an activist. He has changed people's opinions. He has taught people. He has sensitized people to issues.

What's your thing about that philandering, Marilyn Monroe murdering, misogynistic JFK, anyway?

...and I love the space program. I grew up around NASA and have visited it many times. I remember John Glenn's ascent. (I'm old.) ...and still don't know what the hell this has to do with MM.
Madspirit

[PhilipShore]

71. In 2000 he was active in electing Bush, that is a great liberal activist cause?

[Madspirit]

73. Insane AND a liar. n/t

[PhilipShore]

80. Nader told RFK Jr. that given a choice between Bush and Gore, Nader preferred Bush

Naderites/Moore Groupies

____________________________________

Nader and the Greens
Will Nader Help Bush Again?
By Mike Hersh
Feb 20, 2003

http://www.mikehersh.com/Why_did_Nader_help_Bush.shtml

While most Nader supporters are intelligent and thoughtful people, Nader unfortunately attracts a number of people who seem to worship Nader as a god and relentlessly lie to themselves and others.

For example, there's no evidence to support the claim some Naderites make that Nader drew support from both Republicans and Democrats equally. In fact evidence indicates Nader drew close to twice as many votes from Gore as from Bush: "Voter News Service exit polls suggested Nader had the votes of 2% of registered Democrats, 1% of registered Republicans."

Some Nader cultists try to deny Nader intentionally helped Bush in 2000. Since we know Nader did help Bush, they must be claiming Nader was too dim to understand the impact of his focus on the closest swing states - especially Florida in the closing days of the campaign.

How could Nader not know he was helping Bush? Of course he recognized this risk but not only didn't care, Nader announced that was his intention. Nader told RFK Jr. that given a choice between Bush and Gore, Nader preferred Bush. Several progressives - many of whom had worked with Nader over the years - directly explained the risk to Nader, but of course Nader isn't that stupid. He knew he was helping Bush.

[Madspirit]

85. I don't like Nader

Moore is not Nader. You need some help.
Madspirit

[PhilipShore]

90. Again--- I simply asked what great things Moore has done for liberalism.

It is a simple question.

Most liberals--- have things they achieved. 70's liberals stopped the Vietnam War. Gandhi kicked the British out, by means of non-violence. King really did help bring about civil rights. JFK hated Repukes and wanted to close the whole Military-Industrial-Complex system down and was shot by CIA Repuke thugs. Jesus--- well he was crucified for simply being a liberal. Liberals in Russia tore down the Wall.

Come on Moore groupies one example -- of his liberal achievements.

[Madspirit]

91. I gave you several examples

Why do you keep comparing Michael Moore to elected public officials and people from a long long time ago. ...and about JFK. Michael Moore has never murdered a woman.
Michael Moore spreads the word. Changes opinion. Protests. Writes books, makes movies. That's about all a private citizen can do. What have you done? Did you start the space program? Did you do any of the idiotic things you keep asking about MM? I am so through with you.
Madspirit

[PhilipShore]

98. But what opinion does he have?....

he writes books... well so what everyone wants to write a book. He makes movies, well anyone could make a movie (if they had a million dollars)

Where did Moore get his Million dollars?

He would be more convincing to me as a real dissenter, if he had renounced his Award like Marlon Brando did --- in the name of civil rights.

MARLON BRANDO
FAN PAGE

http://www.popstarsplus.com/actors_marlonbrando.htm

Off screen

Brando's crusades for civil rights, the American Indian and other causes kept him in the public eye throughout his career. So did his romances and marriages. He married actress Anna Kashfi in 1957, believing her to be East Indian. She was revealed to be Welsh, and they separated a year later.

Brando turned down the Academy Award, the second actor to refuse an Oscar (the first being George C. Scott for Patton.) Brando boycotted the award ceremony, sending Native American actress Sacheen Littlefeather (nee Maria Cruz) to state his objections. She was booed as she denounced Hollywood's portrayal of her people. The actor followed with one of his greatest performances in Last Tango in Paris, but it was overshadowed by an uproar over the erotic nature of the Bernardo Bertolucci film. Despite the controversies which attended both the film and the man, the Academy once again nominated Brando for the Best Actor.

[Madspirit]

103. inane again

You only know about people from a long long time ago, don't you?

Once again, going with your inaneness...did you start the space program?


I remember all your examples first-hand and yet, they mean NOTHING to me.

Michael Moore has certainly taught me more than you have.

This is my last post on the subject.

I suggest you find a good good shrink. You need one.
Madspirit

[The Crazy Canadian]

74. Buddy, maybe check out the new documentary Moore is currently working on.

It'll be out soon, in the meantime, pick-up one of his documentaries or books, because it seems like you have a lot of time on your hands.

[PhilipShore]

86. I'm confused....

of all the great liberals I read about, they simply said follow the truth, and oppose injustice --- they said nothing about buy their book or watch their movie, and be a true liberal.

Did Gandhi receive money from the British --- to create the movie Gandhi, and thus kick the British out?

Nader/Moore received more money from the Republicans --- in swing states in 2000, then from liberals --- to run anti-Gore ads?

[Madspirit]

92. You are a straight-up liar.

[The Crazy Canadian]

94. Listen, just provide a link that Moore is a Republican stooge and took money from them.

If not, then STFU will ya. Moore is just a single dude doing his thing, talking about important issues the corporate media won't touch. A lot of us "lefties" like him and welcome his contributions. Fuck you and your black list of who is a good leftie and who's not. I'll be waiting for the evidence - 1) Moore hates Jews and 2) Moore takes Republican money. You better have credible sources.

[The Crazy Canadian]

67. I suggest ignoring this guy. He's talking nothing but bullshit.

From out of the blue, he attacks Moore with baseless lies, now he's attacking the anti-war movement from the Vietnam era? This guy is all over the place attacking what he sees as anything left of him, because he is a TRUE Liberal. What a joke.

[Madspirit]

69. Good Idea!

You can't argue with the clearly insane. I am going to go eat, watch some Star Trek and relax.
Madspirit

[Morgana LaFey]

79. It's the distraction tactic used by those who may be here

for other purposes. You notice the thread is effectively hijacked. Someone who came here to do that on certain topics or pit us against one another would be pleased with their accomplishment. And the result is the same whether or not it was intentional on the part of this particular poster.

Yes, time to ignore them.

[PhilipShore]

97. I never said I was a true liberal...

but at least the demos I went to --- achieved something. I went to a demo, at Rocky Flats, simply to protest nukes- not expecting great things, shortly after that plant was shut down.

And I technically was the principle organizer for a anti-nuke group--- not because I wanted to but because no one else wanted the job.

There was only around a dozen of us, that day --- but as we protested --- cars drove by and cheered us beeping their horns.

I was actually shocked --- to read much later on that the whole plant was shut down.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5045392

DOE: Cleanup over at Rocky Flats Plant

Listen to this story... by Jeff Brady

Morning Edition, December 9, 2005 · The Department of Energy says the site of a former nuclear weapons manufacturing plant near Denver is officially free of contamination. If the Colorado state government and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency agree, most of the land will become a public park.

[UndertheOcean]

35. you haven't given a signal example yet ..typical.

n/t

[Madspirit]

68. I get it now!

You're clearly insane.

[Morgana LaFey]

78. Sorry. That's just nuts.

And not worthy even of any further response. Michael Moore is about as liberal as you get in the U.S., and Goddess bless him for it.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

54. oy vey

[ulysses]

62. LOL!

Moore and his groupies are 100% anti-Semitic, but they are not liberals, they are Michael Moore/Nader cult groupies.

Whee! :freak:

[TahitiNut]

70. Hi, uly!

May I join you in that "Whee!"??? :rofl:

I just love how we do such in-depth discussions of issues instead of merely people-bashing.

:evilgrin:

[ulysses]

75. of course you may, TNut.

:hi: It's always fun here, isn't it? :D

[TahitiNut]

81. (cough) Uh... yep. I'm just (really!) glad most of the folks are still here who ...

... were why I fell in love (sorta) with this site in the first place. I really miss some of the "dear departed" (e.g. NSMA :cry:) ... but the Classes of 2001 and 2002 are still the well-represented.

:hi: :hug:

[ulysses]

83. indeed we are.

Spoke with NSMA a while back. I miss her too. Still, it's fun to be a "greybeard". :D

[Porcupine]

72. yeah, sure. Nobody had an actual policy position or anything.

Next you are going to tell us the sainted James Earl Carter is a hate-monger. Never mind him devoting the last thirty years to work for peace and human rights.
:wtf:

[Hardrada]

8. I still hate labels.

Do they have tests to determine how much people hate Christian societies? That would make as much sense.

[WI_DEM]

10. 12 or an "unbigoted liberal" but that "survey" wasn't very good.

[Lurking Dem]

11. Apparently what Slate needs

is a test for tongue-in-cheek senses of humor which seem to be quite lacking among their readers.

[CBGLuthier]

37. thank goodness

I couldn't believe I was the only one who saw this for the stupid joke not to be taken seriously article it is.

Still it is telling that the joke itself is now being accused further down of being anti-semitic.

[Morgana LaFey]

82. No, it's not a joke, it's not tongue in cheek

It's 100% real. For a number of years there has been increasing pressure from some quarters to brand ANY and ALL criticism of Israel (or Zionism, a term I personally avoid at all costs because I never know how others are using or reading its many meanings) as anti-Semitism. It's designed to totally stop said criticism, no matter how well deserved because NO ONE wants to be called or considered an anti-Semite.

Except I no longer care, personally, because as I said upthread, I refuse to be bullied into NOT criticising anyone who deserves it. I am entitled to my opinion, and to expressing it. If there are those who insist on abusing the term and the principle, then I will let them do just that at their own expense. ThEY are the losers, not me.

[CBGLuthier]

84. And they tell ME

that I am humor challenged.

No fuckin way in hell was any part of that bullshit meant to be taken as a serious device to measure anti-semitism.

[populistdriven]

13. Semites are Arabs and Jews look it up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic

[rockymountaindem]

18. Except that the entire history of the word "anti-Semitic"

extending way back to the 1870s, refers specifically to Jews. "Anti-Semitism" does not include anti-Arab bigotry.

[Behind the Aegis]

22. Isn't it strange?

They always seem to be able to find that definition of "Semite" on wiki but fail to read the part of the link that says...

"The negative form of the adjective, anti-Semitic, is almost always used to mean "anti-Jewish" specifically."

It even hyperlinks to the word, so they can FURTHER understand the meaning of the word, anti-Semite.

[rockymountaindem]

23. Yep. In every thread. nt

[SayWhatYo]

41. but semites are Arabs and Jews...

hehehe lalalalalalalalala

[populistdriven]

99. There is no racism against Arabs

:sarcasm:

[Balbus]

19. What the hell does that have to do with anything?

Are you going to tell me that anti-Semite also means anti-Arab? Well don't say that, because you'd be flat out stupid and wrong.

[Lurking Dem]

20. "anti-Semitism" has nothing to do with "Semites".

look it up

[SayWhatYo]

42. That's like say anteaters have nothing to do with ants....

I dunno, just ignore me. I'm being lame.

[Megahurtz]

76. LOL! n/t

[Meshuga]

96. But look up anti-semitic

The word "ANTISEMITISM" was coined by Wilhelm Marr, an antisemite himself. Ironically, Wilhelm Mars created the expression "antisemitism" in 1879 with the intention to be known among all future antisemites as a leader of a powerful movement of Jew-haters but today he is only known to Jewish scholars.

Marr wanted to replace the German word "judenhass" (Jew-hatred) with a word that would make Jew-haters sound less vulgar and even somewhat scientific (he wanted to make the case for 'Jewish' being a race).

The problem is that the term he created is misleading since it conveys the impression that antisemites oppose Semites. This has enabled Jew-haters in the Arab world to deny they are antisemites, on the eminently logical grounds that they are themselves Semites. But for Marr, Hitler, and other Jew-haters, the term "antisemitism" has always been a code word used exclusively against Jews.

Hitler himself had not compunctions about welcoming (Semitic) Arab leaders, including the Mufti of Jerusalem, to Berlin during World War II. For this reason, many writers today have adopted the practice initiated by several Jewish and Christian scholars and write antisemitism as one word. Spelling antisemitism as "anti-Semitism" in the conventional manner, only fosters the false impression that there is a wider ethnic entity against which "anti-Semitism" is leveled.

Throughout history, antisemitism has been directed against Judaism and its values.

The term "antisemitism" defined by the The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language:



an·ti-Sem·i·tism (n.)

1. Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism.
2. Discrimination against Jews.



The term "antisemitism" defined by WordNet 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University:



antisemitism

anti-Semitism n : the intense dislike for and prejudice against Jewish people

[uppityperson]

15. What a bunch of bullshit questions, pardon my language

They are saying that disliking anything about Israel, not being totally supportive of everything about Israel makes one anti-Semitic? oh pshaw.

[Behind the Aegis]

17. It is still satire.

[uppityperson]

21. Had this disscussion with an ex once.

You are a jerk
You are anti-semitic
No, I just think YOU are a jerk

Hits a personal button with me. And yes, the ex was a jerk.

[Behind the Aegis]

24. I can follow that.

I have no issue calling anyone a "jerk" if they are one, and it isn't dependant on their other identities. I can also accept that not all criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic. However, I will not place my head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist, even on the left.

[uppityperson]

28. That is true, it does exist.

For the ex, being Jewish had nothing to do with anything, he had even proudly proclaimed self a non-acting (can't remember the term, like prior, used to be but am not anymore). I don't like some of what the State of Israel has done, same as I don't like what some of the State of Poland has done (don't forget Poland). Has nothing to do with being Jewish, just what they do. It can get confusing and yes, anti-semitism does exist among everyone, even the ex.

[Madspirit]

16. I scored 11

8-12: Phew! You're an unbigoted liberal—painfully capable of striking a middle ground and excruciatingly tolerant of all points of view. Please enjoy this complete set of Barack Obama's speeches.

[leftofthedial]

27. I think the quiz itself is anti-Jewish

reducing complex issues of politics and religion into shallow stereotypes.

[NoPasaran]

29. I got an 11

But as for the complete set of Obama's speeches... uh, can I just write a check to a good cause instead?

[bigwillq]

39. 16 (nt)

[SayWhatYo]

44. Seemed like the author had his tongue planted firmly in his cheek...

At least that is what I picked up. Am I wrong? It sounded like a quiz I would have wrote while cracking up and patting myself on the back for such a 'comical genius'. Only to realize that no one actually finds anything I say funny. :(

Well, no one except for my mom.

[populistdriven]

51. 14

[ck4829]

55. I got a 10 - Unbigoted Liberal

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

56. What's the correct answer to #9?

[sendero]

58. The quiz...

.. is utter bullshit.

Whenever there is a quiz where many of the answer sets don't contain an answer you would select, but you have to select one for the quiz scoring to "work", well then it's a bullshit quiz.

I got a 14 BTW. Dangerously close to being (labelled) an anti semite because I would dare to think for myself.

[Lurking Dem]

60. The quiz is tongue in cheek.

[sendero]

95. So is the Daily Show..

... but it has a point it is trying to make nonetheless.

[Porcupine]

64. When do we go on the tour?

Is the food good? I like Italian but Argentinites eat way too much beef.

Actuallly, where is the line for "hates Israel but is occasionallly found volunteering for the local Jewish fellowship." (I'm not Jewish but my mom's buddy is) I'm entirely schizo on these issues apparently.

[Morgana LaFey]

77. I'm an anti-Semite too

And as I've threatened in the past when the inappropriate conflation of criticism of Israel as a state with anti-Semitism, that insult will never again make me wince or feel any sorrow or angst or shame.

I am an anti-Semite. I believe that the Likudniks in charge of the state of Israel are rightwing nuts, and I believe Palestine is being treated abysmally if not criminally (IOW, I agree with Jimmy Carter). Because the Likudniks happen to be Jewish (and IMO it IS just a coincidence, just as I consider it a coincidence that the dangerous and deluded neocons are heavily Jewish) and because they want to insulate themselves from criticism by bludgeoning their critics, they insist on calling my criticism of them anti-Semitism. I won't be bullied into giving up my criticism of this (IMO) increasingly rogue state, so I am an anti-Semite.

So be it. The more virulent these pro-Likudniks are on the subject, the more proudly I will accept their misguided and inaccurate term for me.

[Madspirit]

89. I doubt you really are

The test was skewed, obviously. I really doubt you hate Jews. I have read your posts. You are sensitive and compassionate. The test was simply, simplistic. You are not anti-Semitic. You are anti-Zionist. Perhaps? (Not trying to put words in your mouth. There is just a big difference between being anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist.) You don't support Israel at the expense of the Palestinians. That does not make you anti-Semitic except to those stacking the deck unfairly.
Madspirit

[Morgana LaFey]

105. That's a nice post. Thanks.

No, I don't hate Jews. I'm not even anti-Zionist (at least as I understand the term).

You don't support Israel at the expense of the Palestinians. That does not make you anti-Semitic except to those stacking the deck unfairly.

Ah, you see, there's the rub. SOME folks do want to stack the deck in that direction. So for them, yes, I'll capitulate and stipulate that I surely MUST be anit-Semitic if that's the way they insist on defining it. AND that means (to sorta repeat myself) that they have successfully rendered the very term (anti-Semite) meaningless and without sting or stigma.

Thanks for your post. Sensitive and compassionate, eh? Hmmmmm. Thank you.

:hi:

[maxsolomon]

88. 16, and the majority of my friends & neighbors are jews.

i hate me some neocons, though.

[Madspirit]

93. V8 Moment

Thud... I just realized what is wrong with this poll, besides it's simplistic view. It is equating anti-Zionism to anti-Semitism and they are not the same thing. You can support Palestine and not hate Jews.
Madspirit

[PhilipShore]

100. You can? Anti-Zionism is antiSemitism

[Madspirit]

101. Bull

You can support Palestine and not hate Jews. Well, I can. Maybe you can't.
Madspirit

[Lurking Dem]

102. You can support Palestine and be a Zionist.

[Madspirit]

104. In theory Yup

I actually totally support Israel and do NOT support that misogynist, shoot women, make them wear veils country or any other misogynist, strap bombs to kids, countries. I actually decided a long time ago to only support countries that do not commit crimes against their own women and children. Maybe that's just me.
I still do not support Bush's war. I am talking about personal feelings.
Madspirit