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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:18 PM Original message |
So John Kerry doesn't believe in the "Innocent until proven guilty" clause? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. John Kerry's grandstanding. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. Suspension is appropriate call for anyone arrested. And Kerry's always sided with |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. If a teacher had a 18 count indictment on child abuse |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. What if the teacher were indicted on, say, insurance fraud? |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. How about if the teacher were indicted for dog fighting |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. How about if they searched somebody else's house... |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. No, they would be suspended in most if not all felony indictments |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. No, in most school districts, the teacher would be suspended pending a |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. I agree with you.... |
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Peregrine Took (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm shocked by all these Vick defenders here. Really shocked. Is it the foot |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I don't know what the reason is, but I'm OUTRAGED by it. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. I'm a defender of the constitution |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
34. The Constitution doesn't say people can't have opinions on guilt. For that matter, the presumption |
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jakefrep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
54. Who's defending him? |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
6. jesus, how often does it have to be said... |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. But Kerry is calling for his suspension |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I think Senator Kerry can multitask |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. John Kerry is a private citizen. What part of that don't you understand? |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Shit! I thought he won reelection to the Senate! When did this happen???? |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 12:27 AM Response to Reply #24 |
57. still a private citizen in this regard. not part of the criminal justice system. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I'm with you |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
44. Is this a joke -- Kerry's been plenty busy. . .EOM |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
46. Suspension, not decapitation |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
8. legally, he is innocent until proven guilty |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
11. And I am SOOOO disappointed in people who want to defend dog fighting! |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. ... |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. ? |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Did they suspend Ray Lewis before legal proceedings reached a conclusion? |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. But wasn't that prior to the newer Morals and Standards Policy? |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. What, you think that's legal? Suspending without any firm evidence of wrongdoing? |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Pac-Man Jones was suspended, and he hasn't been convicted yet. |
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tired_old_fireman (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Pac Man Jones had ten police incidents. |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I'm just saying that suspension prior to trial isn't unheard of |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Point taken. |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Well, I didn't say "as has always been the case", |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. He got told to stay the hell out of trouble, and most certainly got into more. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Suspension from work isn't a legal penalty. I don't see why a conviction is necessary. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Legal? It's a JOB. |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. What part of secret evidence aren't people understanding here? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. No. |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Ahhh... okay, here's the thing, the NFL doesn't do 'suspend with pay'. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Hmmm... |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Which is why they are pressuring him to take |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Exactly. |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
49. I don't think Dog Fighting is ok and I don't think someone should be punished |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
21. By that logic, Bush ought to be immune from criticism too, right? |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
25. "Innocent Until Proven Guilty" refers to court proceedings... |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Sure, people can have informed opinions. Because we can't suspend Vick. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. In fact the NFL has suspended people before any court proceeding... |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. If the players union is they are going to be very quite about it |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
30. such crap! people hold up politicians as though they were not human |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
41. Another happy Friday at Slam Democrats Underground |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
42. Which "clause" are you talking about anyway? |
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democratsin08 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
43. the evidence seems overwhelming |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
51. I'm no defender of dog-fighting |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
53. there are just some issues that piss people off and this is one of them |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
55. SUSPENSION IS appropriate - and the NORM for anyone arrested. Why should Vick |
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