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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 02:41 AM
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So it takes our military over a year to find out that a supposed terrorist "leader" DOESN'T EXIST?!
Edited on Thu Jul-19-07 03:22 AM by seawolf
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/07/18/africa/iraq.php


For more than a year, the leader of one the most notorious insurgent groups in Iraq was said to be a mysterious Iraqi named Abdullah Rashid al-Baghdadi.

As the titular head of the Islamic State in Iraq, an organization publicly backed by Al Qaeda, Baghdadi issued a steady stream of incendiary pronouncements. Despite claims by Iraqi officials that he had been killed in May, Baghdadi appeared to have persevered unscathed.

On Wednesday, a senior American military spokesman provided a new explanation for Baghdadi's ability to escape attack: He never existed.

Brigadier General Kevin Bergner, the chief American military spokesman, said the elusive Baghdadi was actually a fictional character whose audio-taped declarations were provided by an elderly actor named Abu Adullah al-Naima.

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The ploy was to invent Baghdadi, a figure whose very name establishes his Iraqi pedigree, install him as the head of a front organization called the Islamic State of Iraq and then arrange for Masri to swear allegiance to him. Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's deputy, sought to reinforce the deception by referring to Baghdadi in his video and Internet statements.

The evidence for the American assertions, Bergner announced at a news briefing, was provided by an Iraqi insurgent: Khalid Abdul Fatah Daud Mahmud al-Mashadani, who was said to have been captured by American forces in Mosul on July 4.

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Bruce Riedel, a former CIA official and a Middle East expert, said that experts had long wondered whether Baghdadi actually existed. "There has been a question mark about this," he said.

Nonetheless, Riedel suggested that the disclosures made Wednesday might not be the final word on Baghdadi and the leaders of Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia. Even Mashadani's assertions, Riedel said, might be a cover story to protect a leader who does in fact exist.

"First, they say we have killed him," Riedel said, referring to the statements by some Iraqi government officials. "Then we heard him after his death and now they are saying he never existed. That suggests that our intelligence on Al Qaeda in Iraq is not what we want it to be."


Well, no shit on that last, buddy!

How bloody incompetent are the mooks in our military "intelligence" division if they can't figure out that the so-called "leader" was a fucking VOICE ACTOR? For over a YEAR?! Has political patronage infiltrated our military so deeply that grade-A fucking idiots can get jobs in INTELLIGENCE just because of their connections?!
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 02:48 AM
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1. boogie-man sightings
usually turns out to be a pile of clothes casting shadows in the night
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 02:53 AM
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2. Who do you think created Bag-Daddy?
Who would come up with a name like that?
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 03:02 AM
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3. When we invent a boogieman terrorist, it's good...
...but when "they" invent one, it's bad. I think I understand...
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 03:14 AM
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4. This is more complicated than I can follow...
because apparently this fictional leader was calling for Al Qaeda to attack Iran, for backing Shi'ite insurgents in Iraq (?)

There is something fishy about this, and not just on face-value.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 03:23 AM
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5. I'm sorry, I left the link to the full article out.
My original post didn't take, and when I redid it, I left the link out of this one.

It's been edited in now. Didn't see anything about calls for attack on Iran in the article.
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 05:52 AM
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6. How many people died searching for this imaginary person?
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 07:32 PM
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12. Good question.
I'm afraid I don't have the answer.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 05:53 AM
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7. Sort of like that guy who plays Osama in all those shitty videos.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 05:55 AM
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8. Wait until they find out about
Osama the dead one!!!!
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 06:02 AM
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9. Anyone see this SNL skit with Deniro??
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 07:00 AM
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10. Just imagine Al Qaeda's frustration when they realize Uncle Sam doesn't really exist either
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 07:01 AM
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11. Maybe if we stopped offing the #2 guy
we could have asked them.
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