Why Does Rudy Guiliani Receive Such Praise For His Actions on 9/11?

[journalist3072]

I've never understood why Rudy Guiliani has received such praise for his actions on 9/11. I've always felt like he was simply doing what he was supposed to do on that day. We should expect nothing less than for our elected leaders to rise to the ocassion, and help guide us through the more difficult moments in our nation's history. That's what they get paid the big bucks to do.

So, I've never understood this annointing of him as "America's mayor."

Anyone else agree, or do you think he deserves the praise he has received for that day?

[Jim Sagle]

1. Because he's a Republican.

[montanacowboy]

2. BECAUSE THE MEDIA WHORES

`LOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVE RUDY; BECAUSE THEY ARE CRAVEN WHORES

[AX10]

3. Because he is a Republican.

[Stephanie]

4. Because they were done in a VACUUM.

The entire national leadership went underground that day. The first member of the admin to speak to the nation was KAREN HUGHES and that was not until late afternoon. BUSH was busy HIDING in RABBITHOLES. He did not speak until late that evening. Giulinani has many, many faults but that day, as a resident of lower Manhattan, I was grateful that at least ONE person in power in my government stepped in front of the press periodically to inform us about what was known. Not much, but way better than the Bush administration did.

[ljm2002]

38. Ding ding ding!

We have a winner!

In contrast with Herr Bush, Rudy Guiliani at least showed up, stayed and tried to make himself somewhat useful. That's all. The contrast against our pathetic excuse for a president elevated his stature hugely.

[EST]

5. Another creation of media and blind partisanship.

[FtWayneBlue]

6. In allowing people to go back to work

under unsafe environmental conditions, he committed malfeasance of his office, and will be responsible for thousands of deaths to New Yorkers from hideous cancers.

Now let me tell you what I really think . . .

[NI4NI]

34. Wasn't he criticized for the lack of emergency radio equipment

supplied to the NYFD? I seem to remember people personally shouting him down about that during a federal hearing.

[BuyingThyme]

7. Because we all looked for some place to look.

And he was there.

I bought in to it.

Now I know he's just a mobster.

[Bucky]

8. Because he did it well. Because he didn't go flying around the city hiding in Limo One.

He handled the crisis as well as any and *ahem* better than some. We needed America's Mayor on that day, because we clearly didn't have America's President around to help us.

There, I said it. He did a good job and showed personal courage under duress. That doesn't mean I want the filandering crook as president, but I see no harm in giving credit where it's due.

[Fresh_Start]

9. As a New Yorker, hell yes he deserves praise

and I've never been a Republican. You need only look at the stunning absense of other leaders on that day or during Katrina to realize what a marvelous job he did.

[fryguy]

16. true, but...

...his actions on 9/11 doesn't absolve him from all the crap things he did as mayor prior to that and it will only be a matter time before his silver armor become tarnished with his past.....

[Fresh_Start]

18. Read the original question again....

"Why Does Rudy Guiliani Receive Such Praise For His Actions on 9/11?"

I glad that you agree that he deserved praise for his actions on 9/11. Before than I didn't think much of him. But he stands head and shoulders above anyone else in our government in raising to the occasion.

[Kingshakabobo]

22. What do you think of Kristen Breitweiser's opinion?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kristen-breitweiser/giulianis-deadly-impact_b_18564.html

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>snip:
Forgive me, but Giuliani is the person responsible for deciding to locate NYC's emergency command center in the World Trade Center along with a diesal fuel tank (against the advice of certain FDNY officials) before 9/11.

Locating the city's emergency command center in a known al Qaeda target (the towers were struck in 1993 and al Qaeda publicly promised to return to finish the job) was a colossal failure in judgment on his part that cost hundreds of lives on 9/11.

During the attacks, because the command center was rendered inoperable, NYC had no clear chain of command and no physical command structure in place to coordinate the emergency response. Frankly, the whole reason Giuliani was on television all day and available for interviews was because he was scrambling around the streets trying to set up a command post since the one he had designed and located was paralyzed during the attacks.

Anyone who wants to witness the results of NYC's abysmal emergency response to the attacks need only listen to the recently released 911 tapes that chillingly reveal a total lack of coordination and flow of vital life-saving information plaguing the city and its emergency response apparatus that day. (By the way, Mayor Bloomberg has yet to fix the 911 system--even five years later.)

Furthermore, Giuliani is also responsible for giving the FDNY inoperable Motorola radios. This, too, cost hundreds of lives when firemen did not hear the order to evacuate the towers prior to their collapse. (By the way, those radios are still not fixed--blame this on Bloomberg, too.)

more at link
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[Bucky]

25. No one's saying he's perfect. But given the scope & scale of the damage done...

...any response was going to be chaotic, confused, and full of wild scrambles and improvisations. They were also ready for lots of contingencies that didn't happen--for instance the hospitals and ER of the city were alert and ready to take in whole streams of injured that day. Giuliani's office helped coordinate all that. As it turned out there weren't that many injured to deal with. People either got out in time or they died. I guess you could say all the effort put into that contingency was wasted time and energy. But I wouldn't.

The other thing Giuliani did that day was to tell it straight. He got on TV, looked at the cameras, and gave the facts out straight and clear. He kept a cool head in a crisis. I can name you some people who didn't. It's not an easy thing to do and the type of disaster he was dealing with was truly unprecedented. He deserves all the kudos he gets for 9/11.

[AX10]

26. Exactly!

[Fresh_Start]

37. so what the decision about the location of the emergercy response

have to do with his performance on 9/11? Nothing. Given the mistake of locating the team were it was located, he made the best of the situation. For the record, I don't believe that it was anticipated that the towers would collapse. Even after the towers collapsed there was huge debate that it shouldn't have happened given the construction. If you believe the towers would not sustain significant damage, why would the location of the response team have been a poor choice?

[Kingshakabobo]

39. Sure. What does the performance of the fire department radios have to do with anything?

:eyes:

Sorry. His strutting around on 9/11 didn't impress me. No more than commander cod-piece and his traveling air show.

Locating the command center in a known terror target? It's laughable that you would defend that. What did it do to affect HIS performance? Nothing I guess if being a "steadfast resolute front" was his only job.

The lack of coordination and communication cost firefighters lives and that is a fact.

THAT'S the performance I care about and he failed.

[Fresh_Start]

43. the command center wasn't in the towers

it was in the complex.

Stop being like the GOP, blowing smoke. The issue I responded to was the location of the command center. The failure of the radios did not have anything material to do with the command center

[1620rock]

10. That rat faced weasel was just another repuk out for photo-ops...

and publicity on 9/11.:puke:

[tularetom]

11. He didn't do dick

but it looked good next to the wimp-in-chief who sat there like a rock for 7 minutes listening to kids read My Pet Goat and then fled all over the country in a panic. Giuliani has no credibility as a protector against terrorism. The only US citizens that have been killed on American soil by Islamic terrorists were residents or workers of HIS city. What did he do for them?

[Catherine Vincent]

12. Republicans annointed him as "America's Mayor"

I had nothing to do with it. I was chatting on the phone with a republican friend of mine a while back and the topic was Rudy G and she said something like "America's Mayor"...I stopped and said what? She told me that's what they call him nowadays. My eyes rolled.

[Drum]

13. I think that he deserves it.

Being here on 9/11/01 and since I was impressed with Giuliani's steadiness and compassion, even if I didn't enjoy some of his other effects on NYC life during his mayorship.

There's truth in your assumption of "simply doing what he was supposed to do" but I know how I and most of the city felt then: we couldn't imagine feeling positive or reassuring, but needed exactly that from our local government, and Hizzoner came through for us.

And he was a good guest-host of Saturday Night Live. More elections for him? He shouldn't bother....

[Kagemusha]

14. Look at Katrina... who else did what they were supposed to in a crisis lately?

Who?

Mind you, all Rudy was asked to do was posture.

[uberblonde]

15. Because next to Bubble Boy...

He looked like a freakin' statesman.

[fryguy]

17. on Sept. 10, 2001 he was an ass

and once he enters the race for real and the real history of his tenure is discussed I doubt he'll remain "America's Mayor" - especially among the conservative base of the GOP

[LSK]

19. he scares me because of that

[Fresh_Start]

21. You don't have to worry about Rudy

while I think he's the best of the GOP breed, he's an East Coast divorced Catholic with somewhat liberal social views. He isn't gonna fly with the GOP faithful.

[WilliamPitt]

20. Because when everyone else was losing their head, he kept his

I'm no fan of the guy, nor do I think his actions that day can whitewash the crazy stuff he did while mayor.

But in our desire to kick opposition candidates in the ass, some perspective is necessary.

The man was a calm voice and a steady hand during a terrible day.

[Bucky]

23. What he said...

only a little more cynical and with a faint Texas accent

[Ignacio Upton]

41. He was much more reassuring than Bush

Bush just sat in that classroom for seven minutes, and then was moved from base to base on Air Force One. While there were someone things that Giuliani could have done better (ie. better radio equipment, and NOT moving his emergency headquarters under 7 WTC) he still did a decent job on that day itself. Of course, that doesn't absolve the fact that he was/is a scumbag.

[Smarmie Doofus]

24. People should read 'Grand Illusion' ...

... by the veteran NY journalist Wayne Barrett.

You'll get smart in a hurry about Rudy. He was on the scene when it happened and the dynamic is that people rally to the support of their leader when something like that happens.The fact that the korporate media in NYC idolized him didn't do him any harm either.

But his incompetence and hubris before 9-11 ensured that the calamity would be much worse than it had to be. The city was utterly unprepared, despite the earlier attack on the Trade Center site in Dinkins final year in office.

Read Grand Illusion.

[Nite Owl]

27. He was doing what he was supposed

to be doing but that's the point. We had no other leadership when the country was in fear and chaos, he showed up for work while the little dimson went into hiding. He wasn't the great mayor that people elsewhere think he was and the truth will surface soon enough.

[Canuckistanian]

28. 'Cause he was VISIBLE on 9/11

Unlike that OTHER leader who made himself scarce on that day, trembling in a Nebraska bunker.....

That's why.

[Booster]

29. I think people compared him to Bush on that day, and up against

Bush, Hell, I was a hero on that day.

[Duer 157099]

30. Because the Bush admin has so dramatically lowered the bar

that anyone who does *anything* can be seen as a hero.

And I'm not being sarcastic, either.

[blondeatlast]

31. Hey, he was there...

Other than that, didn't he just do what any decent public service worker would do--his job?

I'm with you on this one.

[Captain Hilts]

32. Because he was calm, in charge, breathing dust and the president was hiding. nt

[spanone]

33. Cause he did the American thing. Made huge sums of CASH off 9/11.

[Kingshakabobo]

40. Yep. Pimping for the pharmaceutical industry.

Rudy, Kerrick and their, so called, "security" company pimped out their security credibility to speak out against importing cheap drugs from Canada. Big terror threat!

[Cleita]

35. Probably because he showed up soon after it happened,

something our fearless leader, Bush, didn't do for a few days. However, this is the only thing Giuliani has in his favor and I don't think he can mount a campaign on it.

[UTUSN]

36. Something to do with his pal KERIK screwing Judith REGAN

SOME of her men (NOTE, the 4th image is an abstract rendering of LIMBOsevic). LIMBOsevic is included because she published his first two, ghost written by John FUND (at least the first one) books:



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http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/media/columns/medialife/152/

.... Then Judith and Rupert found each other -- and ReganBooks was born. Not only did their commercial instincts mesh, but Judy's what's-the-world-ever-done-for-me politics were highly compatible with the Murdoch view.

And then the sex part. It's a one-woman show.

I have never heard anyone talk about sex the way Judy does. I have never heard anyone talk about their sexual partners the way Judy does. I have never heard anyone analyze individual motivations, the workings of the marketplace, and politics, too, in such precisely sexual terms. The other day, on her show, she kept interrupting her tempered guests on the subject of why women like Bill Clinton, and, voice rising, saying: "They want to have sex with him -- that's why they like him!"

Early in her career at Simon & Schuster, she published a book called The Rogue Warrior and fought tooth and nail for a full-face cover photo of the author. "Don't they understand?" she stormed to me. "Women will buy this because they want to fuck him!" She got the full face and a best-seller.

http://www.zianet.com/insightanalytical/newlow.htm (by DUer Gloria: )

Regan looked straight into the camera and for almost 10 minutes, delivered a pseudo stream-of-consciousness poetry riff mocking Clinton. Referring to his sad boyhood, she mocked his loneliness, then proclaimed that he built himself up and called himself KING, because "I am rich and I can do what I want!" She likened him to the cast out Socks, and envisioned him an old man meeting up with Socks at 125th street, both holding tin cups. ....

It was incredibly vicious. What was especially appalling was how she took the most painful aspects of Bill's background--his truly grievous childhood--and twisted them, using them to mock him. If this wasn't the "politics of personal destruction" I don't know how else you could describe this horrific display. ....

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And I (the poster) will claim credit for insight. Back when KERIK's book for REGAN was debutting, she hosted him on her Faux interview show. His tale was of his missing mother, who inexplicably abandoned him as a tot. She never showed up for a custody hearing. The premise of the book was that this tough uber-male had this hole in his heart, thereby setting the pants on fire of tough wingnuts of all genders. As she probed him about the book, she and KERIK locked smouldering, HOT gazes. Once the mother-thing was done, she moved on to his heroics (which were what?) on 9-11. She asked WHERE HE WAS when the planes hit. Without missing an eye-lock, he said, "Stepping out of the shower." She swallowed and held a long breath. The image of nekkid KERIK was plainly etched on the Faux camera lens during the LONG pause. He added, "In my office." Another LONG pause. He added, "After WORKING OUT." There was another swallow. I suspected BACK THEN that something was cooking between publisher and author, and it weren't spaghetti. Only 2 or 3 years later, when KERIK's many other past deeds floated to the surface like dead bodies did it become official that there was indeed WILD WINGNUT HOT LOVE between the two, that the two of them alternated their WILD WINGNUT HOT LOVE sessions with WORKING OUT together, that he had used NYPD to track down what happened to his mother, that he used NYPD to provide security for his personal WILD WINGNUT HOT LOVE sessions, that the WILD WINGNUT HOT LOVENEST was a city-paid apartment near the WTC intended as a rest site for rescue and recovery workers. The REGAN-KERIK Faux interview was pure musk in the air. Why don't Shrub's handlers hire some of US for intelligence work?

[in_cog_ni_to]

42. "The New Pearl Harbor" by David R. Griffin would change their minds.

In fact, after I read that book, I decided he was IN ON THE 911 scam. He had to be. EVERYONE should read that book. Guilliani has made MILLIONS of $$$$$ off the blood of 911 victims. He's SCUM.