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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:22 PM
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Darth NADER to run/spoil again?
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/wp/2007/02/05/2001


Oh God! Nader may run again


Former presidential candidate Ralph Nader on Sunday left the door open for another possible White House bid in 2008 and criticized Democratic front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton as “a panderer and a flatterer.”

Asked on CNN’s Late Edition news program if he would run in 2008, the lawyer and consumer activist said, “It’s really too early to say. … I’ll consider it later in the year.”

Nader, 72, said he did not plan to vote for Clinton, a Democratic senator from New York and former first lady.

“I don’t think she has the fortitude. Actually she’s really a panderer and a flatterer. As she goes around the country, you’ll see more of that,” Nader said.

On whether he would be encouraged to run if Clinton gets the Democratic nomination, Nader said, “It would make it more important that that be the case.”

(more at link)
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:23 PM
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1. people are on to his tactics...he's a loser in this-end of story
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:29 PM
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6. Ditto......
He is just wasting other peoples money.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:25 PM
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2. dooom...DOOOOM
:eyes:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:25 PM
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3. Many years ago, I liked the guy. Too bad he turned into such
an ass.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:26 PM
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5. Agreed... 30 years ago he did some good things. These days he's all too obvious.
And not in a good way.

He's better off not running, but if people vote for him in large numbers then there are bigger fools out there...
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:25 PM
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4. Only if we run a weak candidate again...
Nader WAS a factor, but he was NOT THE ONLY ONE.

How many DUers have said "If only Al Gore was in 2000 how he is now, he'd have won". A sadly valid statement.

However, Nader has a lot of nerve to run again.

Then again, so did Binky (Binkowski ran against Bachmann and Wetterling and took 8% of the vote, which doubtlessly has spurred Nader on...)

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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:41 PM
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7. Possibly
I've had several of my non-activist, but always vote Democratic, friends tell me that if the nominee is a certain candidate, they will vote Green for the first time. I haven't argued with them (yet) because I understand their feelings. I figure I can start working on them in the fall of 2008. I have told them I will be voting for whoever the Democratic nominee, even if I have to carry an airline "stomach distress" bag with me when I do it (Unless, by some bizarre fluke, it's someone like Lieberman), but I think it's wise to let them vent for now and start hammering them later.



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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:44 PM
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8. PA Green Party Senate candidate 100% funded by right-wingers
from Harper's Index


Percentage of funds used to get Pennsylvania's Green Party Senate candidate on the ballot that came from right-wingers: 100
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:44 PM
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9. I wish this fucker would just rear end a Pinto and spare us all another wingnut
Doesn't he have enough blood on his hands already?

We wouldn't have a President Bush, a Patriot Act, an Iraq War, an impending Iran war, and possibly even a 9/11 if not for this egotistical asshole.

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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:53 PM
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10. ding ding ding.
had so many near friendship-ending arguments with Nader-supporters in 2000. i hate him.

and the corvair was a decent car.
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chchchanges Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:06 PM
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11. We are still a democracy, aren't we?
What the heck is all this nonsense? Nader can run all he wants, and I will support him for it, even if I don't agree with his positions. And there is no blood in his hands, I seem to remember a bunch of Democrats signed in for the Iraq use of force resolution, and it took them almost 6 years to even say something remotely ballsy against Bush. So give me a break, OK?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:29 PM
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16. And as a democracy--and a big D Democratic message board,
we can rip him to shreds for his pathetic media-whoreness.

How sad for him to have once been so important and to now be in a metaphorical corner screaming "Look at me! Over here! And my enablers on the right bought me a suit that ALMOST fits..."
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:29 PM
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17. Actually, no...we aren't a Democracy anymore, in MANY ways
We have an unelected president with an unconstitutional veep (from the same state as the pres) selected by a corrupt supreme court who has suspended the rule of law, fair elections, real vote counting, checks and balances and civil liberties. Forgot to add that to my list of things we can thank Nader for in part.

Nader is an egomaniac only out for himself. Any self respecting, self aware liberal who caused the election of the Anti-Christ himself would write a public apology and off themselves in an attempt to save his soul. Nader? He wants to run again.

Fuck him.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:09 PM
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12. I think Naderites have been sufficiently burned by 8 years of Stupid
that Nader won't have a prayer in 2008.

Well, he won't unless the DLC, in its infinite wisdom, decides to run an antichoicer.

Like it or not, that's a line in the sand for a lot of us. It's like a pro slavery platform in the 1850s, against decency and any notion of liberty.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:14 PM
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13. After getting 0.38% of the popular vote in 2004...
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 09:14 PM by tritsofme
I don't think he needs to be worried about very much.

Him and the idiot Libertarian and Constitution Party guys can cry outside the debates that they weren't let in, but that will be the extent of their contributions to the election.

As far as I can tell the only candidates that could present credible 3rd party candidacies would be Michael Bloomberg and Chuck Hagel, and neither of them would be likely to take votes away from the Dem candidate.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:22 PM
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14. Nader...a legend
in his own mind. :eyes: Does anyone really listen to this irrelevant lost soul anymore after suffering thru the last six years.x( If Nader wants to influence Democratic politics than he should join the Democratic Party...not that we would even want him. :thumbsdown:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:23 PM
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15. Oh Go Away Little Man. Your Self Destructive Stupidity Is So 6 Years Ago. Silly Little Man.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:08 PM
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18. Yip, he's the recurring a-hole n/t
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