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Island Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:29 PM Original message |
Kerry Bill Would Prevent President from Misusing Signing Statements |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. This man doesn't stop-I love him! Thanks! nt |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. True leadership... |
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redphish (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. Seems like a good idea but hard to enforce. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:35 PM Original message |
Would there be a way to demand Congressional approval for such signing statements? |
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redphish (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
12. The thought of the President and Congress ping ponging |
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fedupinBushcountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. If there's a will there's a way. n/t |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
4. The answer to signing statements is to ignore them. |
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BrainGlutton (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Actually, there is case law to the effect that presidential signing statements |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Yes, you are correct, and I am aware of that (with exception of the FDR part). |
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globalvillage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. Arlen? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Yup! |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. His plan is to write language into the bill which indicates that |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Nonsense! |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Issuing signing statements and ignoring the laws are two completely |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. You know laws can be interpreted, and |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. You don't really believe the courts would use the Clinton precedent |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Have you met the |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Point taken, but I'm trying to stay within known law. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 07:30 AM Response to Reply #20 |
32. It might be a good idea to wait to see what the bill actually does |
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fedupinBushcountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. This is excellent |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. sorry john - signing statements already violate the constitution which says... |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Thank you. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. If it does nothing else, it makes sure more people know what Bush is doing |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I think so too n/t |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. All of which, obviously, can be done in just a few weeks. |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. If signing statements make a president impeachable... |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
15. I love Sen. Kerry! Always have and always will! Proud to have voted for him in ' 04! |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
18. There should be no such thing as "signing so I don't have to uphold my oath of office statements." |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
19. Bush's Response: {{{drumroll}}} EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE!! |
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nam78_two (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
25. K&R.nt |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
29. shouldn't they also specifically declare that the signing statements already issued . . . |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
30. Sheesh. And when the President signs this, what's he gonna do? Duh. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-09-07 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
31. Bush will just issue a signing statement to the effect that |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
33. Too bad this could not have been done, say five years ago after the first hundred or so |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
34. Now we're talking! |
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buddhamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
35. thank you, Senator Kerry |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
36. Good to see that Senator Kerry and Specter are challenging Bush on this matter! n/t |
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