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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 01:42 PM
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Murdoch Confesses To Propaganda On Iraq
Murdoch Confesses To Propaganda On Iraq

by News Corpse
Sat Feb 03, 2007 at 08:44:03 PM EST


Last Friday, at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Rupert Murdoch sat on a panel where he lamented what he described as a "loss of power" due to the ascension of the Internet and other new media. The notion that this captain of one of the most dominant media conglomerates in the world is trembling in the shadow of bloggers is simply absurd. Especially when you consider the fact that his company is also a dominant player on the Internet with an aggressive acquisitiveness that includes MySpace, the world's largest online social networking site.

But there was a more shocking exchange that took place that ought to have caused more of a stir amongst professional journalists and all freedom loving people. It was an exchange that revealed something that most conscious beings knew, but which I have never seen explicitly articulated.

Murdoch was asked if News Corp. had managed to shape the agenda on the war in Iraq. His answer?

"No, I don't think so. We tried <...> We basically supported the Bush policy in the Middle East...but we have been very critical of his execution."


Let me repeat this: "We Tried!"

After hearing this confession, how can anyone ever again take seriously Fox News or any of Murdoch's other instruments of bias? How can News Corp. continue to pretend that they are "fair and balanced?" How can any other media company exhibit the slightest expression of respect or patronization?

And speaking of other media companies, where are they now? The Chairman and CEO of a media empire that includes the number one rated cable news network, and numerous newspapers around the world, has just admitted that he tried to use that empire to "shape the agenda" in support of a partisan political goal with consequences of life, death, and global destabilization. Why has the media, who you might think would have some interest in this subject, virtually ignored these remarks? We know they were there because, on the very same day, there was a media tempest over http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/index.php?p=333">remarks by John Kerry on whether Bush had turned the U. S. into an international pariah. That trumped up commotion was led, of course, by Fox News. Even the Hollywood Reporter downplayed the most startling portion of Murdoch's presentation by headlining their story: "Big media has less sway on Internet." They apparently felt that that was a more weighty revelation than the attempted thought-control exposed by Murdoch.

Where is the outrage? Where are the calls to disband this mammoth and unlawful propaganda machine? Murdoch, who was made an American citizen by an act of Congress because, otherwise, he could not own an American television network, should have his citizenship revoked and be deported back to Australia. Think of the precedent this sets for any other wealthy and ambitious ideologue that seeks to manipulate public opinion. There are plenty of wealthy and ambitious ideologues in the Middle East and elsewhere who may view Murdoch as a role model.
At the very least, it needs to be broadcast far and wide that News Corp. and Fox News are nothing but a tool of the neo-con operatives in government. You might say we already knew that, but this is different. We are not merely accusing them of this stance, they have now admitted it. And it can not be tolerated! Not by any standard of journalistic ethics. Not by a nation that values a free press so much that it incorporated that freedom into its Constitution.





And http://www.juancole.com/2007/02/sunni-arab-guerrillas-massacre-155.html">Juan Cole weighs in on this today:


Rupert Murdoch, who gives you Bill O'Reilly, Daniel Pipes, and other fantasists of the hard Right by his ownership of a vast media empire admitted at the Davos conference that his companies had "tried" to propagandize for Bush's Iraq War. He said that they were critical of the execution of the war, though. He doesn't watch or read his own media if he thinks that. It is never a discouraging word and 'what were the RNC talking points today?' over there in Foxland.

Murdoch's remarks are a good reason for which the news conglomerates should be broken up so that a wider range of views can be published. While Murdoch complains about competition from the internet, the fact is that far more people watch television than get their news from any blogger.

Murdoch's media have done more to cheapen American values and drive the country toward fascistic ways of thinking than anything since the McCarthy period in the 1950s. The airwaves belong to the public, and this man only licenses them. When will the public take them back and use them for purposes of which Washington, Jefferson, Madison and Franklin would have approved?




True enemies of our nation.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:17 PM
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1. Murdoch the evil champion of the regime
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:24 PM
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2. "We tried"....famous last words...
Spread this wide.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:28 PM
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3. You write: "True enemies of our nation." -- but good buddies of Hillary Clinton.
Lest we forget:

Rupert Murdoch Loves Hillary Clinton

Conservative Media Mogul To Host Fundraiser For Liberal N.Y. Senator

NEW YORK, May 9, 2006

(CBS) To call them a political odd couple would be a rash understatement.

Conservative media mogul Rupert Murdoch will host a fundraiser for liberal New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, the Financial Times reports.

The mating ritual of the unlikely allies has been under way for months. Clinton set political tongues to wagging last month by attending a Washington party celebrating the 10th anniversary of Fox News, the cable news channel owned by Murdoch. (my emphasis)


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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 03:11 PM
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9. And things like that may contribute to an unsuccessful outcome for her campaign.
Just my opinion. She has allowed herself to be tarnished with what we all here are trying to fight, and that is the corrosive effects of Big Money and Big Propaganda on our system of government.


Another grating example of strange bedfellows is the proclaimed friendship that Al Franken says he enjoys with G. Gordon Liddy.

And for that matter, all the time Bill Clinton spends with GHWB.

And Donna Brazile is tight with Karl Rove...


I need to stop this....


I keep remembering what Mama always said.... 'People judge you by the company you keep.'
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:28 PM
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4. despicable slime... nt
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:39 PM
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5. We would have to be a sovereign nation (like France)
and stop buying, grow our own food, (much like Cuba). But stop purchasing anything that supports the idiot box Period.

we would have to march in the streets, leave work, shut down all operations (much like France)

What a dream that would be, but as far as I can see now, we should return the Statue of Liberty back to it's rightful owners.
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Clinton_Co_Regulator Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:40 PM
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6. You mean Hillary's favorite fundraiser Rupert Murdoch?
Color me shocked.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:55 PM
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7. Rupert Murdoch's alien card needs to be revoked and he meeds to be
...extradited back to Tasmania where he came from
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 03:14 PM
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11. My thoughts too.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 03:09 PM
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8. Is there video of this
I watched the clip up at the WEForum web site, I didn't see him say these specific words. I saw him talking about governments needing to be transparent and the internet having more power and younger people demanding more freedom - but I didn't see the part where he said he tried to shape the agenda on Iraq.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 03:22 PM
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12. Don't know about video, but here are more Murdoch quotes from the conference:
Murdoch

Not only are there many more places from which to get news and opinion thanks to the Internet, he said. He said traditional media are also "put right immediately" these days when making mistakes, citing the example of the CBS News affair surrounding allegations against president George Bush last year.

Similarly, Murdoch said "government now has to be much more open" because of the Web and suggested, along with Gordon Brown, chancellor of the exchequer and the possible future prime minister of the U.K., that governments should try to see it as an opportunity for them.

"We just have to let this go," Murdoch said. "We can't reverse it."

Asked if his News Corp. managed to shape the agenda on the war in Iraq, Murdoch said: "No, I don't think so. We tried." Asked by Rose for further comment, he said: "We basically supported the Bush policy in the Middle East...but we have been very critical of his execution."

The News Corp. CEO also once again signaled that he sees much more change ahead thanks to digital media. "We're in the very early stages of it," he said. .....

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 04:48 PM
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21. I saw all of that
except for the very specific Iraq stuff. It's online, I'll go watch it again.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 03:14 PM
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10. Is Murdoch an American citizen? I know he's an Aussie by birth
but did he take out citizenship papers? Because I think because of his actions in this country he should be stripped of his citizenship, his holdings in our country and deported as a covert operative for a foreign government.

I can dream, can't I?
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 03:59 PM
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14. Reagan was very helpful in Murdoch's acquisition of US citizenship.
Politics may make strange bedfellows, but for sheer cynicism and mutual expediency it's hard to beat this alliance. Maybe the Hitler-Stalin pact.

What's in it for Hillary? First, obviously, the money. By raising mountains of campaign cash, she hopes to make herself the inevitable 2008 nominee.

But if she hopes this latest financial alliance will also induce Murdoch's attack dogs to lighten up, she's deluding herself. Murdoch often invests in ideological opposites to serve his business interests, but holds fast to his role as right-wing propagandist. When Britain's Tony Blair was a rising star, Murdoch shifted his allegiance from the Tories to Blair's New Labor. His own politics didn't change.

Here in the United States, the Reagan administration helped Murdoch navigate the citizenship laws -- he was then an Australian -- so that he could become a US citizen and acquire Metromedia. So raising money for Hillary, whose Senate reelection is assured, is a neat hat trick: Now she owes Murdoch one, just in case he needs regulatory help. And her acceptance of his lucre reinforces the conclusion that the lady is, well, an opportunist, nicely undercutting her credibility with left, right, and center. ....




When Rupert Murdoch became an American citizen on 3 September 1985 to offset the Reagan Administration's stance on foreign ownership, his 'virtual' nationality hid financial and legal problems with the Australian Tax Office (Chenoweth, 2001: 52). Murdoch gave different testimony to the Federal Communications Commission and the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission about his 1985 purchase of Metromedia television stations (Chenoweth, 2001: 53). He had formed a strategic alliance with junk bond dealer Michael Milken, who devised a $1.15 billion preference issue for News Limited to purchase Metromedia (Chenoweth: 2001, 62-64). Repaying Milken's debt was tied to News Limited's future stock price.

Murdoch missed News Limited's annual general meeting in Adelaide on 16 October 1987 (Chenoweth, 2001: 77). He was attending producer David Brown's book launch and a Forbes 400 party (Chenoweth, 2001: 78-79). Black Monday, on 18 October 1987, would cost Murdoch $1.7 billion (Chenoweth, 2001: 80). His fateful decision to remain in New York City would stall News Limited's crisis management. .....



The more layers we peel away, the uglier it becomes. And it's DAMN ugly.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 11:56 PM
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25. Thanks for the additional background and links!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Great job!!
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 07:16 AM
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28. each one of the Murdoch family has taken citizenship in which ever
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 07:17 AM by Swagman
country suits their purpose...so one son is Australian..one son & daughter British..his ex-wife ( who controls a huge block of shares)Australian..etc etc..so they can vote which ever way is needed on boards.:grr: ..they don't have loyalties to countries..just News Ltd
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 03:37 PM
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13. Thread sent to Olbermann; he could have fun with this! nt
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 04:01 PM
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15. "We tried"--and FAILED! And, that my friends, is the important point.
We must never forget that they FAILED to sell this war--because that fact is critically important to strategies for recovering our democracy.

Let me remind you: FIFTY-SIX PERCENT of the American people opposed the invasion of Iraq, in Feb. '03--despite relentless, 24/7 war propaganda. 56%! That would be a landslide in a presidential election (and many of us believe that it was). That number only dipped below 50% for a brief period, when U.S. troops were at max risk during and just after the invasion, then climbed right back up to a majority, where it stayed throughout the 2004 election, and it is 70% today. In addition, all other poll numbers--over a wide range of polls, over a long period of time, have shown amazing disagreement between the American people and the Bush Junta on everything from torture to Social Security.

What we have suffered is a fascist coup--brought to us mainly by Bushite corporations and their electronic voting machines, run on "trade secret," proprietary programming code, with virtually no audit/recount controls--fast-tracked across the country in the 2002 to 2004 period, by $3.9 billion in boondoggle funding from the Anthrax Congress. These crapass, insider hackable voting machines should never have been put in place. The idea of secret vote counting--let alone secret vote counting by partisans of the Bush regime--is anathema to democracy. The chief engineers of this assault on our democracy were major crooks Tom Delay and Bob Ney (abetted by corporatist 'Democrats' like Christopher Dodd and Terry McAuliffe).

And so, the function of fascist assholes like Murdoch has not been to convince us of anything. It has been to create the FALSE IMPRESSION of a rightwing majority, so that the sensible, progressive, peace-minded majority in this country would become demoralized and disempowered. They have us arguing with wingers and nutballs, and throwing things at our TVs--as if these stupid rightwing views MATTER--when we SHOULD be paying attention to WHO is counting our votes and HOW!

This is very important to know: that the majority of the American people IGNORED them, and didn't buy the arguments for war, and some of them didn't buy the arguments for war EVEN WHEN they got pieces of disinformation stuck in their heads. When you cite the 50% belief that Saddamn had WMDs and/or had something to do with 9/11, you have to put that statistic NEXT to 56% opposed to the war--because a significant portion of the people who were sucked in by the propaganda, still didn't trust Bush, and still made their own assessment of the facts they had at hand, and didn't think it was worth a war. I myself love this evidence of the American people struggling through the biggest load of shit propaganda ever laid on them, trying to think for themselves.

But my main point is that the function of the war profiteering corporate news monopolies was not to sell the war but to create the mass delusion that the war HAD BEEN SOLD.

So Murdoch is actually wrong--and deceitful--when he says "We tried" to sell Bush's war. They KNEW it didn't have majority support, and, furthermore, they knew that a war with so little justification--zero justification--a heinous, unjust, illegal war was not sellable in the U.S. A. What they had to do, therefore, was to disempower the majority with a much deeper lie, that OTHER Americans had gone nuts and were out there flag-waving and hopping aboard a crusade to the Middle East led by the stupidest, most ill intentioned president and vice president in American history.

I have been heartened as I have seen one DUer after another emerge from this delusion--starting way back in 11/04, just after the election, with the riproaring debates here about election fraud--when only a few people perceived the truth. America hadn't gone nuts. America had been disenfranchised!

It was very hard to climb out of that hole--that depressing, disempowered hole that Murdoch and the entire U.S. corporate news monopoly establishment cast us into. WE are the majority. WE always have been the majority. We are a good country, with good people, who were NOT spoiling for war, and who have good basic progressive instincts that have held strong throughout this ordeal, despite our utter frustration at trying to change the direction of the country--and our mystification at being unable to do so.

---------------------------

Strategy for recovering our democracy:

First of all, wipe all rightwing talking points out of your head. Banish those thoughts. Excise them. They are the vile blather of a minority that has been given a Big Trumpet, way of proportion to their numbers--to create a completely false impression of "what people are talking about," or "what people are really concerned about." We don't have to argue with these scumbags. We have the votes!

You will sometimes here this crap from others. Know that in most cases they are just brainwashed--literally--and haven't been able to formulate their own thoughts because of all this Bushite noise on TV/radio. They think this is "current" talk or "smart talk"--parroting what they hear on TV/radio, or read in corporate rags. Don't bother to argue with them on fascist talking points. Try to help them think for themselves. And, believe me, it is more important to talk to progressives--they need bolstering up, re-empowerment and re-enfranchisement.

And here is the program:

1. Transparent elections.
2. Grass roots organization.
3. Think big.

They're doing it in South America. We can do it here, too.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 04:07 PM
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16. Great post, P P. Thanks for that perspective. nt
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 04:12 PM
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18. A lot of Jews don't support the war against Muslims. Stop with the racist
crap. Go "divide and conquer" somewhere else!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 04:20 PM
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19.  What a horrible thing to say. First. Murdoch is not a Jew and as a Jew myself I find
your comment awful! I have not, nor many other Jews that I know, have ever supported wars against Muslims.
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pwb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 04:30 PM
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20. sorry i thought he was Jewish.
i love Jews. sincerely
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threadkillaz Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 11:53 PM
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24. google
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 12:00 AM by threadkillaz
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 05:09 PM
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22. ..."very critical of his execution"...
When I read that I had this image of an execution.....and I felt....nah I better not say what I was feeling after I read that. :evilgrin:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 06:43 PM
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23. and this fuckwad supports Hillary! UGH!!!
"We Tried!" :grr:

What an asshole! :mad:
Not that I haven't known or been screaming this for along time!

Check this out! :rofl: http://www.myspace.com/fuckmurdoch

The Fuck Rupert Murdoch Suicide Cult - Group URL: http://groups.myspace.com/FuckRuupertMurdoch



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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:03 AM
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26. This reminds me of that cat and canary ..........
When the cats says, "what canary, I see no canary"


http://www.hbillustrations.com/portfolio.html
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 03:51 AM
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27. Murdoch's latest is giving LOTS of positive front page coverage to Hillary Clinton . . .
beware, Will Robinson . . . beware . . .
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 02:05 PM
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29. If someone has to tell you they are
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 02:05 PM by The Wizard
fair and balanced it's a ploy. Others determine if you're fair and balanced.
It's like when someone begins a statement with "the truth is" means that everything they said prior to it was a lie. Telling the truth and being fair doesn't require a qualifier. We can only hope the tax breaks Murdoch gets for doing Bush's and the GOP's bidding get rescinded when the Chicken-in-Chief is shown the door on January, 09.
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