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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:07 PM
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Poll question: Gore/Clark -- an unbeatable (and most beneficial) combination?
Could this combination be an ideal combo -- comprising national appeal and true governmental effectiveness?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:08 PM
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1. It's upside down. Clark/?? works for me. nt
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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:11 PM
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2.  The Election of 2008: Al Gore Defeats Jeb Bush
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:52 PM
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27. Jeb Bush? Ewwww....
If there's any candidate that would be the easiest for us to beat, it'd be Jeb. It'd be easier for Gore than running unopposed.
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RegimeChange2008 Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:12 PM
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3. Definitely looking like the best possible ticket.
I don't think Obama's ready, and it's obvious that Hillary & Edwards are obsessed with continuation of the insane, genocidal, imperialist, fascist foreign policy of the Likud/PNAC fascists.

Gore/Clark is looking damn good.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:31 PM
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14. Although Obama is the best speaker.
In choosing our candidates we should think about what we need to do to preserve and even increase our majorities in the Senate and House. If Obama, Hillary, Biden or any other member of Congress were replaced by a Republican, it would be horrible. I'd rather see members of Congress stay in their seats. Only if they are willing to give up their seat to a real sure replacement should they run in the presidential race.

Lieberman's decision to run both for the VP and the Senate was a red flag. Democrats should have told him then that he had to make a choice.

Same for Kerry. Either you run as president, vice-president or you stay or try to stay in the Senate or House. Our candidates should give their all to the presidential race.

I feel certain that if Gore and Clark ran as a team they would give their all.

I also like Obama. Virtually all the candidates have their strengths. If the candidate is now in Congress, we should insist that they go for broke agree to resign from Congress if they run. And they should only decide to run and resign if the candidate who will run for Congress in their place or be appointed in their place is a strong Democrat who is likely to be elected and re-elected to Congress.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:19 PM
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4. Gore/Clark !
Best possible combo!
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:19 PM
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5. Never thought of it and I like it.
For whatever my opinions worth.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:19 PM
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6. With no real concise data to back up my position...
my feeling is that here are two candidates that seemingly owe no allegiance to corporate America, and that have our best interests (the people of this country and their fellow stakeholders in this world) at heart.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:20 PM
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7. I think Clark/Kucinich or Kucinich/Clark would be the MOST interesting ticket.
:evilgrin:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:23 PM
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8. I would endorse that ticket in a/an heartbeart...
would be some great dynamics there... :o
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:28 PM
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11. That would be a good ticket too
But I think Gore / Anybody has a better chance in the general election.
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Lena inRI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:24 PM
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9. Think of it as GORE=CLARK. . .
because those two men would work so well together that, in reality, theirs would be a

co-Presidency. . .that's how much they both are original thinkers with the moral maturity to listen as well as lead.



Are you seeing this unbeatable team, Dr. Dean?

Pleeeeeeeease let it be!

:kick: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :kick:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:26 PM
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10. Moral maturity -- love that phrase!
:bounce: :toast:
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phiddle Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:51 PM
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19. Moral Maturity = Put the Adults back in Charge!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:28 PM
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12. Well, it would certainly get my vote, but I still think it's a waste
of Clark's talents.

If Clark isn't president, he should be Secretary of State. Being president of the Senate isn't his forte - not that he couldn't do it - he's most intelligent and learns quickly. I just think with his foreign policy prowess, being commander in chief or head of state is more apt.

:hi:
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:30 PM
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13. Dumb question - can an ex-prez run for VP?
Gore/Clinton would be unbeatable, if the Clinton part was BigDog.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:58 PM
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17. This has come up periodically since the run-up to the 2004 election
Edited on Sat Feb-03-07 04:58 PM by mcscajun
The question is a matter of some debate, and not all agree entirely, but the common wisdom is that because of the 12th Amendment, which says "...no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of president shall be eligible to that of Vice President of the United States." Bill Clinton could not therefore be Vice President.

Others question whether the 22nd Amendment, which limits the President to two terms, is an 'eligibility' requirement.

Unless a former President were to run for Vice-President, it would never be tested, and if it did happen, the Supreme Court would have to make a ruling on the impact of the 22nd on the 12th.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:20 PM
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18. Never mind, then ...
I sure don't want to bring the Supreme Court into the 2008 election process.

:rofl:
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:24 PM
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21. Damn straight!
:)
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:31 PM
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15. They probably don't have the message or charisma
to win a national election. At the least, we have people running who are more capable of connecting with people in an effective way. Voters look for message and inspiration more than they look for experience.
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phiddle Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:01 PM
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20. Disagree...
Gore's speeches since 2002 have been filled with the passion of a revival meeting. He's found his authentic and passionate voice, and I don't think that he would submit to overhandling this time around.
On the plus side, Gore is the one who on the first day would have his hand most firmly on the machinery of the executive branch. I expect that he would get off to a very fast start, whereas others might make the same kind of amateurish mistakes that Clinton and Carter did in their first years. Since Clinton used Gore as a very active VP, having him take charge of relationships with the ex- Soviet Union, the Reinventing Government initiative, and others, I expect that Gore would use his VP in a similar way.
Clark seems to me an ideal complement to Gore---his military record reassures those who think us soft on defense, he has succeeded at so many varied tasks in his career. And the best thing? We don't risk a Senate or House seat!
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:29 PM
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22. "And the best thing? We don't risk a Senate or House seat!"
And gain competency in so many areas... Now if only Gore would stop being so selfish :sarcasm:
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:34 PM
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16. I'd like a Gore/Webb ticket, but would pull the
lever for a Gore/Clark ticket with no qualms here.
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:36 PM
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23. I think that would be great.
:loveya: Probably highly unlikely (?), but if it did work out, I could definitely support that ticket. I'd even overlook the fact that Clark studied at Oxford. ;) (I'm a Cambridge girl, in case you couldn't tell...lol. I do have respect for Oxford, but my honor requires that I not admit that up front without at least poking a little bit of fun! ;))
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:41 PM
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24. Cambridge girl. Jeebus F'n Christo!
And I thought it was an Etonian with whom I was corresponding. My gawd, the irony! :P :hi:
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:49 PM
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25. Etonian? Pfft.
:P (Actually, I have no ammo against Eton. Can't even use the boat race on that one...oh wait, I can't use that against Oxford either since they won last year. Damn! :mad: ) ;) And technically my Cambridge studies were only three weeks long (took classes through the Cambridge College Programme the summer I was seventeen), but I do feel a certain attachment to the light blue. :hi:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 07:12 PM
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29. Actually -- San Jose State (Spartan) here...
(insert non-sensical, lost-puppy icon here) but can't help but be a sh*t disturber today. Nice to have met you... lady Osprey? :D Go team!
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 07:14 PM
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30. Ahh, gotcha.
(pets the lost-puppy icon) :P Nice to have met you as well! :hi:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:51 PM
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26. I'd volunteer on that campaign if that were the case.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:59 PM
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28. Music to my ears!!
Thats the ticket!! :woohoo:
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 09:39 PM
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31. Gore/Clark = Dream Team. JMHO
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 10:42 PM
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32. Could work, but isn't unbeatable.
Edited on Sat Feb-03-07 10:43 PM by philosophie_en_rose
it may or may not be the most beneficial ticket, depending on possible combination of candidates.



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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 10:44 PM
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33. Gore/Conyers with Clark as Secretary of State/Defense n/t
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