Bush on c-span now with Pelosi...

[butterfly77]

[helderheid]

1. My kids have Noggin on - what's happening?

[butterfly77]

3. He said the last time he was with them he said the Democrat party...

and is trying to pretend that he didn't mean it...

[Skidmore]

2. He "mangles the language." Heh, heh.

Asshole.

[helderheid]

4. He "mangles" EVERYTHING.

Asshole.

[Skidmore]

7. I've never used profanity in my life the way I've used it in the past

few years. This guy just brings out the very worst feelings in me.

[helderheid]

11. I know, I hate the hate that this man brings out it me. It's VERY unlike me.

[butterfly77]

5. He is saying that politics are ugly and ...

people can say a lot of bad things about you... he is talking about pelosi and her dad and how he would be proud of her all bushit...bipartanship (pretending) he is also talking about the storm in Florida and how he is going to help...

[helderheid]

6. I'm surprised they haven't thrown his sorry ass out.

[otohara]

10. He Would Know

he, Darth and the previous congress managed to make politics not just ugly but fugly

[butterfly77]

He is talking about the budget he will submit tommorrow...

and entitlement programs , and medicare,medicaid, some they will like or not...Saying its hard work and they need to work together...

[butterfly77]

9. Get the job done,

he thinks no child left behind is working...

[butterfly77]

14. He is saying solve problems before they get worse...

while he is causing them, making sure people have health insurance. He is saying that he believes in helping the poor, elderly and disable. He's putting it all on the states...

[butterfly77]

15. Goal to reduce gasoline usage ...

in the next ten years. Alternative energy, trying to pretend that back at the celanostic ethanol and corn and how he is looking forward to working and he has done something postive on the environment...

[Rock_Garden]

8. Where on earth did he get that accent?

It mystifies me. No one else in his immediate family talks like that, and it doesn't sound like a Texas accent at all, either.

[Skidmore]

12. Why are they clapping for this BS smoozing?

[malaise]

17. Disgusting isn't it n/t

[ShortnFiery]

13. Grandstanding horse's patootie. It always has to be about him. n/t

[Mika]

16. Bush: 'Murica is now advanced enough to initiate CAFE standards.

:argh:

[ShortnFiery]

But it's herd werk, don't cha know? :P n/t

[butterfly77]

18. He wants to work for a comprehensive plan for immigrra

temporary worker ,plan jobs americans won't do....

[butterfly77]

19. It will be a lot easier ...

if dems work together we share a common goal to keep america safe...

[Stephanie]

20. He's drunk..

.

[butterfly77]

21. Sept 11

you want to keep this country safe like I do, he believes that he can build democracies in afghanistan and Iraq. Country that will be an allie is Iraq he listened to the plan put forth by the generals and he believes it will work...

[Skidmore]

22. He's not saying anything new and is just spouting the same old same old.

Why are they reinforcing him by clapping?

[ShortnFiery]

24. They need a large hook to drag him off stage, a la Gong Show. n/t

[butterfly77]

23. Pass an oil law in Iraq.

all segments , they have to spend money on reconstruction, and elections... We can work together, aids in africa....

[butterfly77]

25. He promised that ...

he will continue to persue freedom in Cuba.

[butterfly77]

26. We can have civility in the congress ...

for the good of american citizens. ( as long as you all do what I say)

[spanone]

27. Thanks, but no thanks. I've seen his schtick. He sucks.

[Dhalgren]

28. What was the reasoning behind the DNC allowing Bush to co-opt

their event? Was he asked to appear or did he request it? This is ridiculous bullshit and it just muddies the water for the Democrats. This was stupid, stupid, stupid...

[thecrow]

29. which c-span?

[Peace Patriot]

30. It's beyond me. I don't have a clue why the Dems would give him a platform.

Some deal they're trying to make?

I would presume that's the reason. Or, HE asked to speak--in his puppet-masters' "make Bush over into a 'cooperator'" game (now that the Dems control Congress)--and he "got 'em"--they can't say no to a polite request by the Resident.

But applause? That I don't get. Could mean "deal." Could be the "Blue Dog" Dems (traitors to the working class).

What could the "deal" be? The Dems have pretty much run over him with a bus on the "first 100 hours" agenda. What ELSE do they intend to go for?

You see, the real Dems have the problem of the traitor Dems (people legitimately elected vs. those (s)elected by Diebold/ES&S), which weakens their numbers significantly. On many important issues (the war being one of them), they cannot count on a majority. Also, they have Stupid's veto to contend with (not to mention tyrannical "signing statements"). They could pass things on principle--and let Wingnut veto them or "sign" himself exempt from them--looking toward '08. But if they REALLY want to get something done NOW--something, or somethings, that are critically important to the welfare of the country, and cannot be delayed--then they have to immunize those things against a veto (and against a "signing statement" veto).

So, how to reel Bush in, and get some cooperation on those critical things--or one way to do it--is to give him a photo op, and let him play his masters' game of him now being 'the cooperator.'

What I don't quite get (or, among the things I don't quite get), is the escalation of the war in Iraq (estimate now is 50,000 troops--with the game being that support troops become combat troops, and support is given over to private contractors in billions of dollars more of no-bid, unaccountable contracts), and the saber-rattling against Iran and gathering of a U.S. NAVAL FLEET in the Persian Gulf (--and how many U.S. military personnel does THAT increase the U.S. forces in the Middle East by?). Anyway, this is such an egregious violation of the will of the people--and involves such an egregious violation of the "balance of powers" with Congress--that you'd think that almost ANY Democrat would just as soon spit on Bush as invite him to their meeting (or tolerate his presence there, if he invited himself).

Maybe it's the "green" energy thing. There is grave reason to accelerate that. Global warming is as much of a crisis as the war is--and may be even more serious, ultimately. Death of the planet. And Bush made some "green" statements in the SOTU--completely lame and more than completely hypocritical (twisted gargoyle hypocrisy--180 degrees of hypocrisy)--but still, he said them. Are the Dems in Congress thinking they can segue those statements into meaningful legislation to help stop global warming? We may think them gullible, but we are not in their position--trying to DO something--in impossible circumstances--about the gravest world crisis ever.

The war and global warming are two things that might elicit Dem applause of Bush, if they thought they could make headway by a bit of toadying. I don't see them stopping the war(s)--yet anyway. So global warming (some pending deal) may well be the thing that explains this disgusting spectacle. Best scenario anyway (--giving our Dems the benefit of the doubt).