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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 08:53 AM
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WP: Elizabeth Cheney's hysterical screed....
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 08:53 AM by Aviation Pro
Apparently, Cheney learned very well at the knee of her father. The obvious fact that she left out is that this was a war brought about through a gigantic lie.

Full article here


Retreat Isn't an Option

By Liz Cheney
Tuesday, January 23, 2007; A17

Sen. Hillary Clinton declared this weekend, " I'm in to win." Anyone who has watched her remarkable trajectory can have no doubt that she'll do whatever it takes to win the presidency. I wish she felt the same way about the war.

In fairness, Clinton, with her proposal for arbitrary caps on troop levels and hemming and hawing about her vote for the war resolution, has company on both sides of the aisle. Sen. Joseph Lieberman is the only national Democrat showing any courage on this issue. We Republicans -- with help from senators such as Chuck Hagel -- seem ready to race the Democrats to the bottom.

I'd like to ask the politicians in both parties who are heading for the hills to stop and reflect on these basic facts:

· We are at war. America faces an existential threat. This is not, as Speaker Nancy Pelosi has claimed, a "situation to be solved." It would be nice if we could wake up tomorrow and say, as Sen. Barack Obama suggested at a Jan. 11 hearing, "Enough is enough." Wishing doesn't make it so. We will have to fight these terrorists to the death somewhere, sometime. We can't negotiate with them or "solve" their jihad. If we quit in Iraq now, we must get ready for a harder, longer, more deadly struggle later.


Edit: Spelling.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 08:54 AM
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1. Impeachment and removal....
...are the only options.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 08:57 AM
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2. And CSPAN read the whole ugly thing this a.m. nt
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 08:57 AM
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3. This dumb ass doesn't even know that Joe Lieberman is NOT A FUCKING DEMOCRAT.
"Sen. Joseph Lieberman is the only national Democrat showing any courage on this issue."

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 08:59 AM
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4. She learned well on the knee of her Daddy...
a great hero of the chickenhawk wars. :puke:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:00 AM
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8. And she too has big bucks invested in our Military Industrial Complex. n/t
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 08:59 AM
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5. Anyone who feels an "existential threat", as she calls it, is hysterical or paranoid
Good thread title on this one. This is a paranoid rant from a someone who is a danger to herself and others.
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:39 AM
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21. A threat to the existence of their empire.
ex·is·ten·tial (ĕg'zĭ-stĕn'shəl, ĕk'sĭ-)
adj.
Of, relating to, or dealing with existence.
Based on experience; empirical.
Of or as conceived by existentialism or existentialists: an existential moment of choice.
Linguistics. Of or relating to a construction or part of a construction that indicates existence, as the words there is in the sentence There is a cat on the mat.
n. Linguistics.
An existential word or construction.

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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:53 AM
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22. I suppose I use it in reference to existentiallism, not a dictionary.
It refers to "fundamentals to the human condition" and with all the nonesense about defending freedom I take it as such. Absense of an existing and empirical threat to a "fundamental condition" talk of an existential threat is pure paranoia.
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hamerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 08:59 AM
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6. More Kool-Aid, anyone? n/t
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 08:59 AM
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7. Hey cheney bitch
Quitting Iraq is not the problem. Starting Iraq is the center of the quagmire that you and your kind have promoted and supported. Let us never forget, a mushroom cloud, greeted as liberators with flowers, WMD, Iraqi oil to fund invasion. All lies. Intentional lies orchestrated by the gop lie machine and you ms cheney are a cog in the evil machine.

And pray tell who is this "we" you refer to as you masturbate about more dead bodies strewn on the Iraqi desert?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:01 AM
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9. and she's how old? still within range to enlist and put her ass where her mouth is?
Oh..she's like her Daddy...rather posture and blather about how other people should die for her beliefs than to stand up for her own.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:06 AM
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12. She's 40 and the army is taking them up to 42.
So there's no reason for her to hold back. She can just stump on down to the recruitment office and put her blue blooded ass where her mouth is.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:11 AM
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14. Just think of the powerful statement that would make if she did?
Not that she would...just another coward promoting the death of others so she can inherit more money from her Daddy.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:01 AM
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10. I know this is a rhetorical question, but I'm going to ask anyway --
Ms. Cheney says "We can't negotiate" with these people. "Can't" . . . or "won't"? Could Ms. Cheney please explain to me why we "can't" at least try? Could she tell my why shock and awe seemed to be the first option rather than the last resort, when all other options had failed?

Never mind. I said it was a rhetorical question. . . . .



Tansy Gold, headed off to bond with some female friends. . . . . .
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:03 AM
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11. Yes, Liz, We do face an exisetential threat...
...but not in Iraq. From your father and his faceman, who are trying to turn this country into something that may occupy the same dirt as ours and have the same name, but is a whole different nation, one more like the type that used to be run out of the Kremlin than the White House.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:11 AM
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13. In other words
Let's just kill them all now, so we don't have to kill them later.

How christian of them.

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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:20 AM
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15. What does she mean by "We"?
I don't see her over there in Iraq. She means you and me, not her. It's easy to say it when you don't have to do the fighting and the dying.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:26 AM
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16. Now's her chance to show up her bald-headed stooge of a father
Sign up, Liz. *W* needs ya.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:28 AM
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17. A fight to the death, Liz?
Then what are you doing? How many terrorists have you peronally killed? Why are you sitting on your over-privileged keister in Washington DC and not killing as many terrorists as possible? Why don't your actions match your overheated rhetoric?

And why is the Washington Post printing such demented ravings?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:29 AM
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18. "We are at war." What's the WE shit, Liz?
Get thee to the recruiter.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:29 AM
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19. Crazy Loon's Sneering Husband IS a DRAFT DODGER.
Richard Cheney had, what, seven deferments?

For the last one, he knocked Lynn up.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:35 AM
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20. She and her ilk are irrelevant. They were wrong then and they are wrong now.
Why should we as a nation validate the opinions of people who have been consistently wrong? It makes absolutely no sense.

BTW, if she is so gung-ho for this war then she should enlist so a tired over-extended soldier can come home. I have a feeling, though, that she has other priorities which prevent her from doing so.
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