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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:29 PM
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Remember the guy that the Rambo Walmart security guy held down til he died for stealing diapers?
Edited on Thu Jun-14-07 09:46 PM by Horse with no Name
Letting the guy have the diapers would have been cheaper...

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Wal-Mart also may have been spooked by worries about lawsuits from wrongful death, unlawful imprisonment and other legal issues related to aggressively chasing down shoplifters. In March, Wal-Mart agreed to pay $750,000 to the family of a suspected shoplifter who suffocated to death as loss prevention workers held him down in a parking lot outside a store in Atascocita, Texas.

The shoplifter died in August 2005 in a parking lot, according to published reports.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/061507dnbuswalmart.26977b6.html

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4412824
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Wal-Mart's corporate office on Tuesday refused to discuss its procedures for detaining and using force against shoplifting suspects in wake of the death of Stacy Clay Driver, 30, on Sunday.

Driver, of Cleveland, was chased by employees after he left the store in the 6600 block of FM 1960 East with items they said he stole. Four employees in the Atascocita Wal-Mart wrestled Driver — who was shirtless at the time — to the ground and struggled with him on the hot pavement for 10 to 30 minutes, witnesses said. He stopped breathing and later died at a Humble hospital.
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Witherspoon always informs his clients that struggling with combative suspects can lead to death by "positional asphyxiation."

"This can happen when someone is on top of a suspect who's face-down with hands handcuffed behind their back," he said. "This prevents them from breathing, and they suffocate."

and this one:
http://houston.indymedia.org/news/2005/08/42397.php

Charles Portz said he was getting out of his car when he saw a heavy blonde haired man being chased by five people who appeared to be security or store employees. He said he saw them wrestling the man to the ground. "The blacktop was extremely hot," said Portz "He had no shirt on and they wouldn't let him up off the blacktop." He said one of the men had Driver in a chokehold and had his knee in the back of his neck as the men tried to subdue him. "He kept trying to get up and they kept pushing him back down," Portz said.

According to Portz, Driver began to plead with them men. "He's begging, 'Please call an ambulance, let me up, do something, I'm gonna die," said Portz. He said the loss prevention employees called the police more than once, but another bystander called for an ambulance after realizing Driver was in trouble. Portz said he eventually began to plead with the Walmart employees. "I told them, this guy doesn't look like he's breathing," Portz said, "They said, 'He's all right." He says he continued to plead with the men, pointing out that the man's fingernails were turning gray. "They said he's just high on something," adding, "They just kept him pinned down for twenty minutes or more until the ambulance came." He said he believed Driver was dead when the ambulance left with him, but he was not certain.

The store employees could not have known that the witness who was pleading with them to let Driver get up from the hot pavement was a high profile Houston attorney, from the Portz and Portz law firm. He said after the man was handcuffed he continued trying in vain to persuade the Walmart employees to allow him to get up, even pointing out that a second pair of cuffs could be used to attach the ones already on Driver to a nearby truck trailer. "The problem is they kept him down on the blistering concrete with no shirt on," Portz reiterated. He said law enforcement arrived at about the same time as the ambulance.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:40 PM
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1. When I was younger I worked in a Woolworth's...
We had some young assistant managers who loved to strong arm shoplifters. It was fun to them.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:05 AM
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11. That kind of person's talents are wasted in Woolworth or Walmart.

Their talents would be better utilized in Nam or Iraq. :puke:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:05 PM
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2. kick.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:09 PM
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3. kick
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slowry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:15 PM
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4. "The shoplifter died in August 2005 in a parking lot, according to published reports."
Cute how they just drop the word "suspected" there...

What a pathetic fucking scene that is. 30 year old man murdered by some whackjob. 30. Diapers. I would like to think someone would have clocked the security guard. I'm as non-violent as they come, but I'm not gonna watch a man die like that, hell fucking no.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:20 PM
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5. That is so sad for the guy that died.
This story reminds me of a similar situation years ago in Houston. A guy was suspected of stealing "pampers" from a mall store and the security guards chased after him and the guy ran toward the freeway near the mall and was hit (and killed) by a metro bus. He was trying to get away with the pampers by crossing the rush hour traffic freeway. :(
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:25 PM
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6. As I waited for hubby in front of Costco, I saw a guy who walked out with a pilfered backpack
and was confronted by a Costco employee in the parking lot collecting shopping carts.

The "perp" had just grabbed a backpack and put it on, and the Costco employee recognized the situation immediately.

The "perp" promptly handed the backpack to the Costco guy and that was that.

Nice ending. MKJ
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:11 AM
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12. Well, certainly a better ending than this Walmart scenario.

I expect that "perp" continued his thieving ways.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:41 PM
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7. F'n digusting. Another reason I will never darken the door of Walmart again. nt
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 11:12 PM
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8. ONLY $750K?
so that is how much a human's life is worth to walmart?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 11:32 PM
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9. It's Texas
We have Tort Reform Laws here.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:31 AM
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10. Ya gotta believe the freeper version of these stories is
that the shoplifters had it coming. "Whoa, they'd risk their lives for a pack of Pampers? What morans!"

Oh yeah, shoplifting $5 worth of diapers should automatically incur the death penalty--and skip the trial while you're at it. :eyes:

:puke:
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