Americans Unready to Revolt, Despite Revolting Conditions

[proud2BlibKansan]

by Joel S. Hirschhorn
14 June 2007


The latest NBC/Wall Street Journal national poll results vividly show a population incredibly dissatisfied with their nation's political system. In other countries in other times such a depressing level of confidence in government would send a signal to those running the government that a major upheaval is imminent. But not here in the USA. Why?

First, here are the highlights of the poll that surveyed 1,008 adults from June 8-11, with a margin of error of plus-minus 3.1 percentage points.

A whopping 68 percent think the country is on the wrong track. Just 19 percent believe the country is headed in the right direction - the lowest number on that question in nearly 15 years. And most of those with the positive view are probably in the Upper Class.

Bush's approval rating is at just 29 percent, his lowest mark ever in the survey. Only 62 percent of Republicans approve, versus 32 percent who disapprove. Take Republicans out of the picture and a fifth or less of Americans have a positive view of Bush.

Even worse, only 23 percent approve of the job that Congress is doing. So much for that wonderful new Democratic control of Congress. Bipartisan incompetence is alive and well.

more . . .
http://www.mytown.ca/hirschhorn/

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

1. This Guy's A Third Party Whack Job Who Hates Democrats. Why Post His Shit Here? He's A Jackass.

http://www.justresponse.net/Hirschhorn061.html

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_joel_s___060905_do_democrats_deserve.htm

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. I guess I was looking for

jackass responses?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

3. Sorry You Haven't Gotten Any. But Back On Topic, Did You Know He's A Third Party Whackjob, Or Did

you just learn that right now? It's ok to say so.

[proud2BlibKansan]

4. Actually I don't care who he is

I like his message in this particular article.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

5. To Each Their Own. But I'm Not Really Going To Take The Opinions Seriously Of Someone Who Thinks

kinky friedman should be president or that no one should vote for democrats.

He's a whackjob.

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. Yeah I get it

You know, there are a jillion other threads on this board, right? :)

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

9. So?

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. LOL

Go Dems Go. :rofl:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

12. That's Better.

:)

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. I didn't say

where I want them to go. :)

[Lars39]

19. lol

:D Thanks for posting the article,proud2Blib.

[proud2BlibKansan]

22. You are welcome!

Sometimes I just sit here looking for articles I can post to upset the Dem loyalists. :sarcasm:

[MuseRider]

6. Me too Proud.

I think we are in one hell of a mess and as long as people keep their heads in the sand believing that they do not have to do anything because their "party" is going to take care of it (certainly they will, won't they? They have to, they are so much better than the other guys because they are MY party) we will roll on down this hill and the bottom is going to be a very hard place to land. But that is OK, someone who is not "on our side" never has anything to offer in way of a solution.

I am with you.

[proud2BlibKansan]

10. I am becoming more and more interested in getting my country back

and less and less dependent on the Dems to do it. Especially after Kucinich's revelation about the secret deal the Dems made with dubya.

[MuseRider]

17. That's my K!

I feel like we are being totally played by some of them, if not most of them. I am losing interest in the 2 party system, well I have lost interest finally.

That deal was it for me. I am glad I am not a Democrat anymore because shit like that just can't be allowed to go on and I really thought (yes, still trying to believe) that they would never do something like that.

I admit that I have just about given up. I won't of course, but it is getting harder to see anything left to save.

Maybe tomorrow will be better (see? I keep trying to keep trying).

[proud2BlibKansan]

21. Hey check out my new little sig pic

I took that in Topeka. Recognize the setting? :)

[MuseRider]

25. Actually I don't.

Is that in front of the Expo Centre (you gotta love the pretense in the spelling of that)?

Too small for me to really see well.

Cute kid.

[proud2BlibKansan]

29. I know I was just teasing

Yes, it was taken the day dubya stunk up your wonderful city last November.

[MuseRider]

33. LOL

It was already pretty smelly ;).

Tease away, I had one hell of a day and am just too tired to even catch a joke. I am very glad I am alone tonight. It could be brutal the way my brain is fizzling. I just hope I have enough sense left to drag myself to bed instead of falling asleep sitting up like I did last night.

[proud2BlibKansan]

36. I am mad at my husband

and I just told Mabus on another thread that I am talking to her instead of him. So you can join our conversation if you want. I'll be nice to you guys but I gotta warn the others that I am in a snarky mood. :rofl:

[MuseRider]

38. I am far too

blasted to join in. I have to go out and feed the goats then I am going to try to stagger my way to bed. LOL, I just can't remember a day that took so much out of me and I really did not do all that much, it was just hard.

Enjoy. I bonded with the light ladies over some good old male bashing (sorry men, it was not serious) the other day. I got a discount on all my lights!

[Stardust]

31. Elaborate, please? (not sure what "secret deal" the Dems made

with The Evil One.):shrug: Thanks, Proud2Blib. :hi:

[proud2BlibKansan]

43. Here's a video about it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x34440

[BeHereNow]

52. Looks like you succeeded...eh?

Lord, I WISH I needed that crystal ball of mine...
BHN

[proud2BlibKansan]

56. AHA finally a response

I was getting all bummed that my half ass attempt at sarcasm had flown by everyone's radar here. :rofl:

[mudesi]

26. Ad hominem. False. (nm)

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

42. Well His Editorial Above Was Whacko Too. So It's Not Really Ad Hominem.

It's more giving education as to who this jackass is and what he stands for.

He works against us. He resents us. He thinks Kinky Friedman should be president. He's just quite simply a jackass.

But if you want to support him and his positions, I can't stop ya. But sheesh, I'm amazed at what some members here support! :hi:

[proud2BlibKansan]

45. And it amazes me what some here put up with

to promote a Democratic agenda. If the Dems all started praising bush, would you go along with that too? Cause my Dem congressman likes him. He wants to go drink beer with him. So should I like bush too?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

47. As Far As I Know, This Is Still Called DEMOCRATIC Underground.

The ENTIRE WEBSITE'S MISSION is to support the democratic candidates and ensure they get elected.

If you don't like it, too bad so sad. Take it up with Skinner.

[proud2BlibKansan]

48. You didn't answer my question

My DEMOCRATIC congressman likes bush. He is a DEMOCRATIC* candidate. So should I like bush too?

*See I can type in ALL CAPS too. :)

[BeHereNow]

53. Don't hold your breath...n/t

bhn

[BeHereNow]

54. And thank GOD the world is black and white, according to you, eh?

Where would we be without you OMC?

Hmmm, I think I will go ponder that question for a while.
Any one care to join me?


BHN

[proud2BlibKansan]

55. Well, maybe I will join you

But then again, maybe I don't care enough. Or should I say ENOUGH.?:rofl:

[BeHereNow]

58. You are TOO Funny!!! Keyboard alert would be nice...

Or should I say NICE.
Spewing...
BHN

[leftofthedial]

46. now that's a powerfully logical refutation of the premise!

:thumbsup:

[flowomo]

8. thanks for posting that; it was an interesting read

I wrote my weekly newspaper column today on a similar theme, though I don't go in the same direction he does.

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. Cool! Are you going to post it here?

That's awesome.

[flowomo]

18. I used post almost all my columns here....

but they usually sank quickly out of sight without comment so I stopped. Sometimes they're political, but often not. This one will be published tomorrow and also be posted online. I'll post the link.

[proud2BlibKansan]

23. Please do and PM me

:)

[BlooInBloo]

13. *No* system will be successful with a stupid, mean, and bigoted electorate.

[dysfunctional press]

16. what revolting conditions...?

most everyone that i know has a car, a colour tv, plenty to eat, decent clothes, lots of life's little playthings, etc...

people are too busy enjoying their lives to stage a revolution.

when the standard of living REALLY DOES fall to the level of "revolting"- there's a much better chance that the people will be.

[Lars39]

20. You know the employed.

[dysfunctional press]

30. which is well over 90% of the country...

with less than 10% of the population disaffected, revolt ain't too likely.

especially if they lower interest rates.

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. Well Paris Hilton is in that revolting jail

Does that count?

[MuseRider]

27. Maybe the condition

of our political system? Even people with much can't help but feel like they are getting kicked in the teeth by this administration and the wealthy. Hell, I am in good shape and I resent the hell out of what is going on. Just because people are doing OK does not mean they would not get up and do something.

Yes, being comfortable makes them less likely to revolt but they will not have to lose it all to get angry enough. Let's just hope they reach that point when there is still something left to be saved.

[dysfunctional press]

32. most people aren't all that seething with anger over political issues...

what was the percentage of the voting age public that even bothered to show up at the polls last november?

nowhere even near a simple majority.

[MuseRider]

35. The polls indicate

that the populace is waking up. They are not happy with either partiy and they see their children's future looking more and more bleak. I don't quite agree with you. I would have agreed last year at this time but not now. I do agree that we are most likely not going to see them take to the streets like we wish they would but I would put that down to simply trying to get by in an environment that seems to favor only the very wealthy.

[dysfunctional press]

40. the only polls that matter are the ones every two years in november.

the change (if any) in the number of people exercising their right to vote in 11/08 will be the best gauge as to the anger of the populace.

[EFerrari]

50. You have a lot more confidence in our election systems than I do. n/t

[Selatius]

41. Not sure, but I think the turnout rate was above 50 percent in 2004.

The war and abortion/gay rights were the big issues that got people out to vote.

[dysfunctional press]

49. perhaps 50 percent of registered voters(although i'd be surprised)...

i'm talking about percentage of voting-age public.

unfortunately, the two things are very different.

[proud2BlibKansan]

44. Hey I hear you

I am okay financially also but I am LIVID over what has happened to my country. I can't even imagine the rage the poor must feel. And no one wants to talk about it. My friends tell me they are tired of hearing me bitch. If it wasn't for DU I would go nuts.

Maybe I already am nuts. :)

[MuseRider]

51. Well.........n/t :)

[dysfunctional press]

61. are you ready to take to the streets in armed revolution...?

if push came to shove- most people would lock their doors, pull the shades, pop in a dvd, make some microwave popcorn and wait for the dust to settle outside.

[EFerrari]

28. Why don't they ever poll me and my pitchfork?

29%, my bald headed granny. If he's still in the 20s, I'm the reincarnation of Copernicus!

lol

[proud2BlibKansan]

34. They don't care what I think either.

BTW, I went to a little luncheon last weekend for active Dems in my county. Our blue dog Dem congressman was there. First thing out of his mouth "I really don't want to talk about Iraq."

Now if my dear departed mother had not raised me to be polite, I would have told him a thing or two right there in front of his biggest fans. :grr:

[EFerrari]

37. I hear you! I'm trying to find some way to keep a dialogue going

with Nancy's office here. And it all tastes like sand to me.

Gee, nobody wants to talk about Iraq anymore.

:nuke:

[Initech]

39. Why? Easy. Television.

People: Hey we are incredibly pissed off at our government!

Government: Shut up! Go back to bed America your government is in control. Here, watch American Idol and get fat and stupid! And keep drinking Pepsi you fucking morons!!!!

[proud2BlibKansan]

57. Have you read Gore's book yet?

That is exactly what it is about.

[Initech]

60. No, I need to get my hands on a copy of it.

[Name removed]

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