PETAKiDS site encourages kids to throw tomatoes at women wearing fur.

[Matariki]

Link from their 'game' page goes to this page encouraging tomato throwing at fur coat wearers - http://www.peta.org/feat/petatomato/

Even has a recommended list of which tomatoes will do the most damage:

Choose Your Tomato Torpedo!
We recommend the following varieties to give you the most squash for your cash:

Rambo Red
This veteran of the fur wars is guaranteed to generate the highest dry-cleaning bills.


----

I still think they're chicken shits. They should encourage the whiny little teenage rebels to take their tomatoes to a biker rally and throw them at leather. Instead of defenseless old ladies.

[Elspeth]

1. Teaching violence against women to save rodents?

That's odd.

[Cronus Protagonist]

20. Using PETA logic, the women in question are murderers and deserve all they get

It's the same kind of extremism you usually see from bigots.

[Elspeth]

25. Kind of like the pro-life movement.

It really looks eerily similar.

[Cronus Protagonist]

Yup, they're both "pro-life"

Funny how that works, isn't it?

[Elspeth]

31. Why is pro-life always anti-woman?

I guess this is more of a rhetorical question.

[Cronus Protagonist]

37. It is odd, isn't it?

One wonders why PETA doesn't recommend the kids throw eggs on cars with leather seats or stomp on men's leather shod feet, but tossing fruit at women in fur is encouraged. I suppose it's the glamourization they object to more than the actual breeding and killing of animals for fur.

[Name removed]

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Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Zookeeper]

110. Yes, I've never heard of a Peta member throwing tomatoes....

at a Hell's Angel wearing a black leather jacket.

As usual, women are safe targets.

[blondeatlast]

2. Get yer popcorn here! Better buy the big tub, too.

:popcorn:

[Matariki]

4. sorry.

there was a recent thread where it was claimed that peta never did stuff like this. i've been reading about them. and their nutty cult leader, Ingrid Newkirk. It's fascinating in a car wreck sort of way.

[blondeatlast]

7. Not a problem. I just know this will get, well, warm, shall we say...?

:rofl:

[pinto]

160. We encourage civil discussion, regardless of topic, and appreciate members'

support for our efforts and the level of discussion available here. Thanks.

[Mike Daniels]

89. I interviewed for a position with PETA when the org. moved to Norfolk

The experience was surreal to say the least.

[Matariki]

152. Oh please, do tell.

A recent post led me to the interweb to learn more about peta. Read lots of stuff from former disgruntled employees. It was amusing to say the least.

[upi402]

3. Save the fur-wearing women!

Down with tomato tossing!
;)

[gollygee]

5. Yeah and my daughter's Wack A Mole game encourages her to hit moles with malletts

it's just a game, folks.

[Matariki]

9. Actually those are stickers they send to their members

along with the 'fur ho' stickers. I guess you are supposed to put them on peoples coats and on tomatoes?

[Elspeth]

12. Fur ho? Just an excuse for misogyny.

:(

[alittlelark]

93. A 'fur ho' can be male or female....

the sub-species transcends gender.

[gollygee]

15. It's a link to a video game

You're reading some rules for the video game. If you think that the video game is encouraging people to do what is in the video game IRL, I have to assume you want to make all violent video games illegal.

[Beaverhausen]

141. All this fuss over an online video game? Oh my god- the humanity!

:rofl:

These same people will defend video games where criminals shoot at cops. That's OK with them, but this is just too too outrageous! Whatever.

[orleans]

62. stickers they send to their members? really? did you ever get one? n/t

[Matariki]

32. Would you let your daughter play, say, 'Whack an Arab'?

[gollygee]

35. No, but not because I think it would make her whack Arabs.

Because we don't buy things that use stereotypes like that. But it certainly wouldn't encourage her to do that.

[Matariki]

43. But a game where the player assaults women is a-okay with you

because it's not racist?

plus, this 'game' is in parallel to their sticker campaign and it sure as hell looks like they're encouraging assault.

[slowry]

55. Why do you keep saying "women"?

There are 2 male and 2 female fur-wearers in this game, and they're all young. Furthermore, it's summer in North America -- who wears fur in the summer? Save the concern for the Fall, imo..

[gollygee]

128. Oh please - it doesn't look like just women in the game

You're really really stretching here.

[Matariki]

153. Oh well it's okay then

:sarcasm:

[tabasco]

6. That's known as battery.

I hope the parents enjoy paying for a new coat.

[Squatch]

8. Peta...are they still around?

[athebea]

131. There will always be moral snobs...

... looking for a license to be obnoxious.

[sandnsea]

10. Peace, Love and Happiness

And why I don't take the left seriously.

That is awful, as bad as that Christian Soldier video game that everybody was horrified over a year ago.

And people still think I'm mean when I say the country is just plum full of stupid people?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

11. God They're So Stupid. An Extremist, Of Any Color, Is Still An Extremist.

And my God do I hate extremists...

[Matariki]

19. That's the thing, if they weren't so extreme they'd actually be doing good.

Factory farming sucks. There's no reason to treat animals so horridly before eating them.

Newkirk has been quoted saying she doesn't want a cure for AIDs if it is found via animal testing, and that's just fucked up.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

27. You're Right. But Unfortunately They Are, And Therefore Are Just Everyday Morons.

And I never heard that quote you referenced. Holy cow what a monumental thing to say. Jesus. :wow:

[Matariki]

30. She apparently has no idea of the difference between animals and people

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2072

<quote>
PETA opposes all animal testing, even for research that is aimed at finding cures to life-threatening diseases. Says Newkirk, "Even if animal tests produced a cure for AIDS, we'd be against it." She has often criticized such groups as the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, the March of Dimes, and the American Cancer Society for using laboratory animals in their research aimed at finding cures for diseases. When asked if she would oppose an experiment on 5,000 rats if it would result in a cure for AIDS, Newkirk replied, "Would you be opposed to experiments on your daughter if you knew it would save fifty million people?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

38. I'll Never Cease To Be Amazed At The Level Of Utter Stupidity And Ignorance Some Humans Show. She's

a friggin whackjob LOL

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

88. OMC!!! Cool.

The ultimate pragmatist checks in! :toast:

MKJ

[China_cat]

13. Do they even bother to try to teach the kids how

to distinguish between real and FAKE fur?

One thing I have never been able to understand...people who will wait for all kinds of verification and ask for evidence of claims of all sorts just automatically accept anything peta tells them without question.

[mondo joe]

14. What did those poor tomatoes ever do to anyone that they should be so callously

smashed?

[ISUGRADIA]

16. Don't forget the making fred spew game

they also have for kids because *gasp* milk products are so EVIL.

PETA SUCKS

[Matariki]

58. Ha, that game must go with their 'got pus' sticker campaign.

They're working it like moonies. Getting disaffected kids to do their grunt work for them.

[Skip Intro]

17. Oh bullshit. Its an online game, not a campaign to assault old women.

I'm glad I clicked the link. Talk about misrepresentation!


This is an online game, meant to make a point, not reality. Its a game.

PETA is dammed good at what they do, and I'm dammed glad they do it.

PETA compaliners do a great service to PETA and the cause of animal rights. PETA bashers raise a stink, and the attention to the controversy gets the word out and helps to move the the animal rights movement forward. Great stragegy, thanks for playing.


CLICK THE LINK!

[slowry]

34. It's extreeeeeeeeeeme!!!!!!!!

Tomato detectors in the schools -- NOWWWWW!!!!!

[Skip Intro]

41. raise the alert level - put a raincoat over your murdered fur! Duct tape! Duct tape!

right - PETA is the problem...


:hi:

[Occulus]

101. PETA would be against an HIV vaccine if it involved animal testing.

A friend of mine died of AIDS a few years back. PETA, and its members, can go fuck themselves.

[ToeBot]

104. So invading Iraq to punish bin Laden is cool with you? n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

108. I would personally

strangle every mountan gorilla with my bare hands if it could cure AIDS.

How's that?

[Zookeeper]

111. Wouldn't that be fratricide, MonkeyFunk???

Say it ain't so... :(

:P

[MonkeyFunk]

113. Nah..

apes ain't monkeys.


But... I would kill most people I've met to bring back ny dead friends.

[Zookeeper]

116. I've lost a lot of friends and acquaintances...

to AIDS, also. ('Lost count at 16.)

And I have a child with Type 1 Diabetes.

Therefore, I am quite disheartened when I hear the belief that a cure for my human loved ones is not worth the (unfortunate) death of a lab rat.

Everyone is welcome to his/her opinion, but, jeez.... :eyes:

[thunder rising]

18. From fur wearing people to women and defenseless old ladies

Very good transfer.

[Matariki]

28. Most of the women I've seen in fur coats are generally over 50

but then, is it okay to pelt *youngish* women with tomatoes?

[Canuckistanian]

21. Food waste should be a crime

What's wrong with good old mud?

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

26. Now your talking.

[MonkeyFunk]

22. That's disgusting

When the PETA people throw tomatoes at bikers in leather, I might be a little more impressed.

Throwing tomatoes at old ladies? Pure cowardice.

[deadmessengers]

50. bingo!

You are da winnah! These people want to pick on old ladies in fur coats, but wouldn't DARE go after someone who, you know, might kick their ass. Complete and total cowards.

[Marrah_G]

23. If any of their kids threw anything at me I would have them in hand cuffs

Zealots preaching hatred and violence are found in many camps.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

24. OMFG, it's an idiotic video game. Your outrage meter is set to spring loaded.

MKJ

[MonkeyFunk]

33. Yes

harassing and assaulting women is so CUTE when it's done in a videogame, and we KNOW no REAL animal-rights pseudo-activist would actually assault a woman with tomatoes. :sarcasm:

[slowry]

36. How many such assaults are there a year? n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

40. Don't know...

and why does it matter?

Once is too many. Do you deny that animal-rights activists have a history of assaulting women who wear fur?

[slowry]

42. I just find the concern about this game and such assaults LAUGHABLE.

Throwing tomatoes has long been a metaphor for putting someone disagreeable in their place, and the idea that this is going to translate into real-world "violence" is paranoid.

Also, there are 2 female characters and 2 male characters who wear fur, in this game, so the OP's subject line is that much more paranoid.

[MonkeyFunk]

45. Well

there are people, like me, who find the willingness to assault old women pathetic and cowardly.

As I said above, throw some tomatoes at Hell's Angels and at least I'd have a modicum of respect for your bravery. But it would still be wrong to assault people who don't live up to your standards.

[slowry]

49. There are no old women in this game. Are you honestly concerned about this gag? n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

51. I'm not upset

but I think the glorification of assault on people who disagree with your world-view is unfortunate.

That being said, I do believe people who assault women wearing fur are cowards of the worst order.

[athebea]

132. I have no respect...

... for people who think they have the right to use storm trooper tactics to make a political point.

[Matariki]

46. sort of like placing black people in a republican ad, isn't it?

[slowry]

65. lol what?! you'll have to help me out on THAT one. n/t

[Matariki]

126. Okay, since you're 'slow', Slowry

Presenting a false image of 'equal opportunity' targets does not take away from the facts. You seem fixated on this point, that there are men in the game, as if that negated the whole 'argument'. The fact is that 99.9% of fur coat wearers are woman. In my observation the majority of them are older women.

Animal activists have a history of throwing things on woman wearing fur coat. Back in the 90's in NYC it was paint, or spray paint. Their targets were women coming out of department store, the opera, places where well off women were likely to be dressed up. Now it looks to me like they're trying to encourage tomato throwing via this stupid game and their sticker campaign. If 'peta-kids' actually go out and do it, peta gets to say 'it was just a video game' or 'just some stickers' or 'just a joke'. So they are trying to use these kids really.

They make themselves obnoxious and hated and it takes away from some of the very valid points they have about how animals are treated.

[slowry]

135. I point it out because

you seem "fixated" on this image of a helpless woman with tomato seeds rolling down her coat, left gasping on the concrete, a single tear rolling down her cheek, waiting for a man to come save her. The level of hysteria in this thread is far more "obnoxious" than this campaign.

It's easy to be offended by something so stupid, for anyone with an anti-PETA hard-on. You're more offended by the thought that there's maybe a, what, .001% chance that anyone who played this "game" would even think of tomato'ing someone, than by the clubbing of 350,000 seals, mostly ages 3-week to 3-months old?

You deserve to be offended, and I hope for your sake someone actually does go out and chuck some tomatoes (not that I defend such terroristic actions).

[Matariki]

150. Throwing things on people doesn't help the issue and doesn't save any baby seals.

There are better ways to raise awareness.

You are redirecting the issue to be about whether the targets of this 'game' are old ladies, or not. What the hell would it matter if it were young women? That's not okay either. Or men? Also not okay.

[Matariki]

57. I'm not outraged. I just want to see the PETA apologists talk their way out of this.

Since I've seen them trying to rewrite peta's history about throwing things at people.

Not to mention their support of ALF's arsonists.

[slowry]

85. You don't have to be a PETA apologist to find this silly. n/t

[WhollyHeretic]

100. Talk their way out of your lying OP?

:rofl:

[gollygee]

125. I'm not a PETA apologist

I had steak for dinner last night and I'm wearing leather shoes right now.

This thread - outrage over a silly video game - is ridiculous.

[alittlelark]

96. 'Spring Loaded' and irrational

scary combination


PS- I HATE 'fur hos'...

[Name removed]

29. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[RB TexLa]

39. Do they ever have to trample over the homeless to get a better shot at the fur wearer?

[Skip Intro]

44. point being?

[RB TexLa]

54. That if you are out throwing things at people wearing fur, from time to time

a homeless person might be sleeping in the way or something. If you take the time to step around them the fur wearer might get away.

[Skip Intro]

59. Throwing the homeless into the mix doesn't change anything.

The tomato thing is a game, an online game.


Both homeless people and slaughtered animals (especially for fur) are terrible facts/conditions of a supposedly visionary country failing miserably. Neither are acceptable, and one doesn't cancel out the other.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

121. Yes but the OP says it encourages it IRL

:shrug:

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

73. I swore I wouldn't post again and yet I must commend an incredibly

fucking hilarious post.

:rofl: :toast: MKJ

[slowry]

47. There are men in the game also; the ratio is 2:2, so what's with the subject line?

And the women in question are young, not "defenseless old ladies". Silliness.

[Matariki]

48. I didn't play it. So I don't know the male to female ratio

but in the real world, my observation has been that most fur wearer are older woman.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

56. My guess is most kids would laugh their asses off at this extremely lame video game.

Now the "Left Behind" video games, on the other hand. MKJ

[Matariki]

52. The main point is that they are encouraging kids to be shitty little vandals

and assault people. The 'game' is a reference to their sticker campaign. Their members were supposed to put stickers that read "Throw me at a fur wearer" on tomatoes at the grocery store.

[slowry]

63. Holy crap you're right.

This is going to explode. This isn't just to get people's attention; this is a genuine call to violence, and the results will SHOCKRIFYING!

[MonkeyFunk]

53. and what is the percentage

of men who are assaulted for wearing animal products vs. women?

Again, when the "activists" assault Hell's Angels, I'll be a little more impressed.

[slowry]

61. Jeeeeeeeeeeeez. You act like people are assaulted daily, or even yearly, by kids with tomatoes.

I don't buy the premise. And why would you be impressed by the stupidity of someone assaulting someone from the Hell's Angels? Oh...

[MonkeyFunk]

64. Nope

you're the only person bringing up frequency of attacks. I've never mentioned it.

My argument is about the morality of it, and the bravery involved.

Assaulting old women is cowardly. Assaulting Hell's Angels at least demonstrates you're willing to get your ass kicked for your cause.

But I've never heard of an animal rights activist assaulting the Hell's Angels.

So, to those who think assault is a reasonable political response, I say they're cowards.

[slowry]

67. Unreal how you can't take a joke and how you think it's brave to assault a violent gang member.

Again, this isn't about women, or OLD WOMEN hahahahaha. Where do you come up with this stuff.

[MonkeyFunk]

68. Don't deflect

do you agree or disagree that animal rights activists have a history of assaulting women in fur?

If your answer is yes, then answer this:

Do you think that's right?

If your answer is no:

Are you blind?

[slowry]

70. I heard something about it in the 80s I think.

How many times did that happen? 10? I don't agree with it, and that's not the point. The point is that examples of such attacks are so rare, and so stupid, that the hysteria in this thread is a joke.

Have you heard of a drop in a bucket? This is an electron in an atom of hydrogen, in a molecule of water, in a drop in a bucket.

[MonkeyFunk]

72. again

I'm not discussing frequency. I'm discussing the morality.

Why can't you answer? Do you think it's OK to assault people who wear fur?

If we agree on that, then we can discuss the frequency of the problem. If you disagree, then we can have an entirely different discussion.

[slowry]

77. Read it again, I stated specifically I don't agree with chucking a tomato at someone.

And again that's not the point. This is such a non-issue.

At least until I get hit by a tomato truck, then this will all have been darkly poetic.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

81. .

A tomato truck.

:toast:

:rofl: MKJ

[MonkeyFunk]

82. cool

then we agree assault is not a reasonable way for people to express their disapproval.

Now, let's discuss BETTER ways to discourage the wearing of fur.

[slowry]

86. Games about assault! n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

87. well, then we disagree

I think planting the notion that assault is OK in the form of a fun game - for political reasons - is wrong.

Grand Theft Auto isn't pushing an agenda. This game is, and I think it's cowardly.

I wish they'd present a game where the kids get to batter bikers and then get the shit kicked out of them. That'd be fun.

[slowry]

94. I'd definitely play that. n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

97. would you do it in real life?

or are old ladies your limit?

[slowry]

112. Old ladies for practice. n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

138. You've got an evil monkey in your subject line.

Drawn, obviously, from Family Guy, a show with considerable amount of low-brow and dark humor, which certainly isn't above fictional violence towards elderly women.

It's hard to take any complaints you have about video games seriously.

[slowry]

139. You should recuse yourself from this discussion.

Judging by your sigline, you have a clear conflict of interest here.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

71. But, with a screen name like MonkeyFunk, don't you support animal rights groups? Or is "Funk" a

secret code for "I can't stand PETA"? MKJ

[MonkeyFunk]

74. Animal rights? no, I'm not comfortable

with that term. But I do love animals and feel strongly that they should be treated well.

But it's true, I can't stand PETA. They're a bunch of cowardly posers.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

75. You don't like the term "animal rights" yet you love animals. Got it.

MKJ

[MonkeyFunk]

79. correct

do you have an opinion to offer that we can discuss?

[Skip Intro]

90. Doesn't an animal's right to be trump a sick, twisted vanity that demands its death?

[MonkeyFunk]

109. well that's what

we in the not-being-a-dumbass biz call a loaded question.

Rights are, in my opinion, what those of us who are capable of understanding the concept deem them to be.

Some people think rights come from God. As an atheist, I reject that notion.

I think, as a moral issue, that we should do all we can to minimize suffering for all animals, man included. But I also recognize that animals eat animals. Man is an animanl. We eat other animals.

Should we deliberately torture them? Of course not. But that doesn't mean we give them "rights".

[HEyHEY]

114. He's got a point thought, you're picking the weakest of the enemy

In more than one way. Elderly ladies are not likely to have the same political awareness as they were raised in a different time. As well, they aren't likely able to fight back.

[Warpy]

60. I inherited two furs

one is a full length fur coat and the other is a mink stole. They both date from the late 50s. The only fur I wear out the door is a fake fur coat I made 20 years ago that is convincing enough to get me hate stares. It's also the warmest thing I own.

I wear my mother's furs indoors in the winter when it's especially cold and the woodstove hasn't kicked in yet. I am opposed to raising animals for fur, I think fur always looks better on the original animal. However, these were INHERITED coats, not purchased, and did not contribute to the problem since people have been fully aware there is one.

However, if I go out to fetch the mail in one of them and get hit by anything, the thrower is going to be facing an assault charge.

Shit like that is why so many people despise PETA despite all the good work they do exposing factory farming conditions and getting them changed.

[ConsAreLiars]

66. I assume you regard this video game as one of the most offensive you have discovered.

Actually there are rather worse scenarios being offered to kids. Some are even put up with your money by the US Army, Or maybe you just want a chance to trash PETA because you find them more offensive than the murderers who are actually slaughtering people in Iraq and using games to get kids to join them. Oh well, whatever. Choose your own outrage and make your own value judgments. Protecting your furs and dry-cleaning budget seems to be high on your list of concerns. So be it.

[rucky]

69. That was a fun game! Thanks for mentioning it.

:thumbsup:

[AZBlue]

76. B*llshit warning, beep, beep, beep! It's an online game folks.

Play that game if you like, but don't play this poster's game.

[slowry]

78. now you tell us... n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

80. You'll notice they don't go after hells angels who are wearing leather.

From my experience, a great percentage of the PETA crowd is wannabe college campus activists who are searching for something most everyone else does- like eat meat- to be outraged about, so they can feel superior. Not so different from the anti-choice Christian Right, if you ask me.

[pinto]

83. A reminder, and a request, to help maintain civil discussion.

Some topics are bound to have a wide range of opinion. Some are bound to generate some emotional responses. But we encourage everyone to help us maintain a forum that has an open, and civil discussion.

Thanks.

[Odin2005]

84. Teaching kids to harass people, how cute (NOT)

PETA = WACKO

[and-justice-for-all]

91. I think the more appropriate thing to do would be...

..To skin the women and wear her flesh around, JUST KIDDING!! use it to make curtains..KIDDING AGAIN!

Talking some sence into people that still think fur is chiche, showing them what they are contributing too and how that fur coat was actually made. More people would be vegaterian if they went to a slaughterhouse and saw what the meat on their plate is put through.

You have to approach people with a certain manner in order to convience them that what they are doing is wrong..Fur is wrong and barbaric.

[Withywindle]

161. It puts the lotion in the basket...

...Or else it gets the tomato again! :evilgrin:

Seriously, when did bratty kids ever need a political motivation to throw stuff at people?

[question everything]

92. For all those who condemned Edwards for never heard of PETA

he obviously did not miss anything.

[Skip Intro]

95. can I ask a question? ok, another one - did you click the link?

did you see what this was all about?


just wondering, becuase the op is a lot more sensational than the actual reality


imho, of course

[MadHound]

98. Well, they could go the GTA route, and have kids stabbing, shooting, mugging and causing mayhem

But instead they have a video game concerning throwing tomatoes at people who wear fur.

It must be the utter end of civilization:eyes:

It's a game, get a grip. Hell, if this shocks you, you should see the game that the Army puts out, they have you killing people who look different that you do. Thanks, I'll take faux tomatoes over faux bullets anyday of the week and twice on Sundays.

[RiDuvessa]

102. I've never been comfortable with the way PETA targets kids.

Between this "game" site and the "Your Mommy kills/Your Daddy kills... pamphlets that they distribute or used to distribute, it always seems like they are overly agressive in recruiting the underage. I don't have a problem with their message, I believe animals have rights and several of their campaigns are quite clever. I just don't like any organization that tries to brainwash impressionable young minds. And before anyone asks, that does include things like the "Jesus Camps" and the like.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

103. LOL, and here I thought that the military was aggressively recruiting our kids.

I guess PETA is kicking ass with this low tech, throwing fictional tomatoes game. MKJ

[RiDuvessa]

105. I don't approve of the way the military recruits either.

But that isn't the topic of this post is it?

I have a problem with an organization that tries to turn kids against their parents. The "Your Mommy/Daddy kills... pamphlets were directed towards very young kids. Even the military doesn't actively recruit eight-year-olds.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

106. Welcome to DU and enlightenment.

I must disagree with your hypothesis that PETA is some kind of child recruiting machine beating out the military-industrial complex.

You could possibly be in the wrong location for your point of view.

I would suggest that the military and/or global corporations have a much more insidious and influential eye on our kids than PETA could dream of. MKJ

[RiDuvessa]

107. Never said that the PETA beats out the military.

I didn't compare PETA to the military. You did. I don't understand how the military entered this discussion except as some kind of distraction from PETA's tactics. Just because one group uses questionable tactics does not mean it's okay for another group to do the same thing. Let's stay on topic here.

I said that I don't approve of some of the tactics that PETA uses to get their message across to kids. Do you really approve of a pamphlet that tells kids that if their Dad fishes they should hide their puppies and kittens because their Dad likes to kill and he might hurt their pets?

Thanks for the welcome. I appreciate it.

[Matariki]

129. "Your mommy kills animals"

cute, isn't it?

http://www.furisdead.com/feat-momfur.asp

[alittlelark]

115. I'm glad to see you edited to show it was a video game.

[ConsAreLiars]

117. The OP has a bit of a reality checking deficiency.

Outrage at a game (supposedly) just being used as an excuse to attack PETA, that great menace to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, according to the dittoheads.

I take it as a given that the anti-PETA posters are just Bushies in drag, and beyond hope.

[MonkeyFunk]

140. LOL

anybody who dislikes PETA is a "ditto-head" and a "Bushie in drag"?

You'll never understand, but it's that kind of insanity that makes most of us think PETA are whackjobs.

[ConsAreLiars]

164. If you read again, the reference to "ditto-head" was not addreseed to you people, just

a reference to the simple-minded attacks against PETA from the Limbaugh machine which you repeated uncritically. And I just love the "they make us look bad" corporatist apologists use to try to create divisions within among those who value life over profits. It is like a big sign saying "When I say 'us,' I don't mean you commoners." Keep it up. You serve the powers that be quite well. But you will eventually discover are as expendable as any other hireling.

(edit typo)

[Matariki]

124. I edited it because I haven't got the knack of text links.

The content hasn't changed.

[HardRocker05]

118. oooh, PETA is so bad, therefore animal rights isn't a serious issue. isn't that what you meant to s

say?

[Matariki]

127. No, to the contrary.

I think they do more to take away from animal rights as a serious issue because they make themselves objects of ridicule.

[athebea]

134. Is animal rights the issue ? Or is it just a license...

... to be obnoxious and bullying ? There will always be fundamentally cruel people looking for a license to justify their cruelty.

After all, it doesn't require any actual contact with the lower orders the way politics might and it doesn't require any life style sacrifices the way fanatical religion might.

[Matariki]

151. Mostly they seem like disaffected teenagers who want to annoy their parents

Or adults who have never grown past that stage.

From what I've been reading, plenty of grown up animal rights activists are plenty sick of PETA and their tactics. Hopefully they'll run out of donations soon.

[BoneDaddy]

119. ONe more example

of the insanity of the far left fringe and the necessity for rational thought in addressing emotional topics.

It is called assault and battery regardless of the intent behind it and it will only serve to muddle the noble message of "animal rights", ultimately turning most level headed folks off.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

120. Couldn't they donate the tomatoes to a soup kitchen for homeless people?

Seems more productive.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

157. I don't think digital tomatoes have much nutritional value. -nt

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

162. Ever had a byte?

badoom tiss!

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

165. You = bad.

:spank:

[LisaL]

122. I recall an amish kid was murdered because he threw a tomato

at a moving car.

[Lilith Velkor]

123. I knew an old lady who beat the shit out of a mugger with her cane once

I'd laugh my ass off if that were to happen to one of those snotty little punks.

[athebea]

130. I would love to see some PETA a**hole....

... try throwing paint at a biker's leather jacket.

But then again, it is so much easier to physically bully women in fur coats, now isn't it ?

[slowry]

136. Yes it is. So what? It's so much easier to support clubbing 350,000 baby seals

and skinning them alive, than to consider that maybe we need to move past such barbaric shit. They need some kind of leverage.

Starting a fight with gang members would be pretty dumb, not brave.

[MonkeyFunk]

So it's

admirable to only assault those who are unlikely, or unable, to fight back.

Now that's a brave stance!

[slowry]

146. Says the seal-killer. Old ladies have opposable thumbs. Bring 'em on.

This game has radicalized me.

[athebea]

142. Which of course gives you the moral right...

... to use storm trooper methods to make political points. I mean, since you are so morally superior and the cause justifies everything. And lesser considerations must be sacrificed in the service of History. And your philosophy allows no room for sentiment.

Starting a fight with people who can't fight back is par for the course for PETA.

[slowry]

144. You should start a website to chronicle the destruction dude. Sieg Heinz. n/t

[Catchawave]

133. It's just a "game" people...

"Seeing red over the torment of animals killed for their skins? Blow off some steam and test your aim by tossing tomatoes at slow-moving, dull-witted fur-wearers. It’s fun and easy!"

Much like blowing off steam killing people in video games, which should upset you more :)

[Matariki]

149. It's a strategy cloaked as a game, imo

They get kids to do their dirty work and they get to say the suggestions they made 'is just a game' to their critics.

How would you feel about a "stone an woman's health clinic worker" game for fundie kids? It would be obnoxious, no?

No where on their site do they point out that "it's just a game" and that they *don't* advocate throwing tomatoes for real.

And this 'game' exists along side their sticker campaign, where they sent "throw me at a fur-wearer" stickers that their members were supposed to sneak onto tomatoes in the grocery store. Along with the "got pus?" stickers for milk cartons, and "fur ho" stickers for the backs of fur wearers.

I think their tactics are obnoxious and instead of gaining support for animal rights issues, they alienate people with their extremism.

[Goblinmonger]

156. "get kids to do their dirty work"

Wow, you gotta pull that stick out of your ass when it comes to PETA.

So my 14 year old daughter that is a vegetarian and has a sticker of a baby chick saying "I am not a nugget" on her school planner is doing the dirty work of PETA. I better go straighten her out.

[peacebaby3]

137. This is a FREE SPEECH issue. PETA has every right to have that

GAME on their site. They are not actually pelting anyone with tomatoes.

I can't imagine why anyone would be concerned about this or would dare to question this because it might violate free speech!

Wow.. the hypocrisy is unbelievable!!!! :wtf:

[MonkeyFunk]

143. I haven't seen anybody say

they don't have a right to have the game on their site.

We're just disapproving.

If a right-wing group had a "Whack-a-fag" game on their site, there'd be plenty of disapproval here.

Using assault as a political tool is cowardly and stupid. But I expect nothing less from PETA.

[Matariki]

148. I don't disagree with that

i just think they're assholes. And i think they are hurting the cause for animal rights more than helping it.

[Dr. Strange]

145. Damn perverts!

Why is PeTA constantly trying to expose kids to sex!

Oh, wait a minute...

Seriously, they should make the game more challenging and have them throw tomatoes at some large leather-clad motorcyclists!

[Goblinmonger]

147. OMG, I just played Excite Truck on my Wii

I better not go driving because I will undoubtedly try and do what I did on the video game.

Way to fall into the right-wing talking points about PETA being the evil beast of the world. Hope you are happy with yourself.

[Matariki]

154. It's more of a political strategy than a game.

They promulgate their tactics to kids and get to defend themselves with 'it's just a game'. What a bunch of bullshit. You don't have to be 'right wing' to find their tactics foolish and disgusting.

[Goblinmonger]

155. So the food fight game

that takes place in a cafeteria must be a propaganda tool of the home school bunch.

It's a game aimed at people that are sympathetic to the anti-fur movement. It seem harmless and I challenge you to find ANY legitimate study that shows that playing this game (with no other intervening factors) will cause the kids to propogate violence on the fur wearing crowd. Hint: You won't find it.

It seems to be just as valid (or more valid) to claim that this is an outlet for those that hate fur and will cause less violence since they can go there and get it out of their system.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

167. Wow, you breathed life into the "evil PETA video game attacking old ladies" thread.

It's a miracle! :hi: MKJ

[kineneb]

158. my mink stole is older than I am

so the minks have probably been dead for well over 50 years...a little late now, guys...don't waste the food by throwing it, give it to the poor (me, or several other DU posters will be happy to accept donations)...

[The Stranger]

159. GO PETA!!!!!

I think everyone should throw tomatoes at them -- and everyone means let the kids get in on the fun too!

[goodgd_yall]

163. It's just a game.

Better than the urban warfare videos where kids get to "kill" the "enemy."

[AngryAmish]

166. Will they also teach kids to kill dogs?

[Matariki]

168. Isn't it illegal to encourage kids to commit crimes?

But then, if they get in any trouble they can say "it's just a game".

From what I hear, it's an extremely lame excuse for a game too. With almost no effort put into making it engaging, I think it's safe to assume it's purpose is more for propaganda than entertainment.

And why won't this thread die already? Peta, what a yawn.

[goodgd_yall]

169. "Why doesn't this thread die already?"

It would have if you hadn't added another comment.

[slowry]

170. Is this where you have a fistfight

with the shark, having jumped it countless times throughout this thread?

TO BE CONTINUED...